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In Search of French Megalithic Sites

Submitted by AlexHunger on Tuesday, 07 June 2005  Page Views: 16369

Neolithic and Bronze Age

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Country: France
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Alignements du Moulin S submitted by AlexHunger : Southern Menhir "Allignement du Moulin" viewed from East at St Just. this consists of 13 stones. Please note shaly rock, interspersed with quarz blocks. There is another allignement of 15 stones and a later grave 50 meters to the north. (Vote or comment on this photo)
They say the Devil finds work for idle hands. This certainly holds true for Francophile stonehunters. At about the same time (late in 2004), The Captain and I, frustrated about the undeserved Cinderella like status of France in spite of its megalithic riches, started to lobby Andy B about sorting out the e-gallery and the site listings in France a little better. Andy B had undisclosed ideas about the expansion of the website and that’s when The Captain and I found ourselves volunteered for a mission deep inside the EU. No problem!

The first task was to organize how this would be done. We divided the French e-gallery into the 19 basic regions in France. We also set up codes for the 95 departments in France for logging sites. We already knew that Brittany had a lot of dolmen and Menhirs, but wanted to make sure we gave all the others in the rest of France the proper care and respect.

Then came an intensive period of researching all available resources. There were a number of websites, where we could get regional lists of megaliths, not to mention the Official French Merimee. This was entered into spreadsheets that could eventually be loaded en-masse directly into the database.

After this we sourced as many French maps as possible in 1/25,000 and 1/100,000 in order to locate the sites we already knew about and to discover others from the surveys. IGN made this easy in a couple of regions like Brittany, Corsica and Isle de France (Paris) where they published CD Roms for us to get coordinates from to input GPS positions into the spread sheets.

The Captain quickly collected 1,000 Brittany sites within weeks this way, which highly motivated us to keep going. The rest of France required more thorough research. I often sat with my IGN maps and approximated the megalith symbol as accurately as possible with the electronic map from my GPS software. So far, I think I have spent about €800 on maps, not to mention the GPS for my field work. In other cases, where there was no symbol available, research on individual town’s websites, amateur web photos became neccessary.

Though this often resulted in hits, at other times we would satisfy ourselves with a “Near” when we could at least pin-point the right field, as many French areas are called “Lieu dits de xxxx.” When you have the “Dolmen de xxxx” you know that you are on the right track with an acceptable margin of error for line of sight recognition. In the remaining cases, when all avenues had been exhausted, we simply marked the site as “vil” meaning the location was accurate to the nearest village. In due course, we will be able to determine the exact position of these megaliths, or close the file on it if it has been destroyed.

A recent trip to the Loire-Atlantique confirmed that the location accuracy for a site scaled from a map is good to within 200 Meters. A "Near" can be about 1 Kilometer off, while a site to the nearest village can be up to 4 Kilometers off.

We have so far filed about 3,550 sites in western France and will soon add the last 350 or so in eastern and southern France, which are in the final stages of being processed. The Captain estimates that the true total of sites could climb as high as 7,000. With what has been added to the Megalithic Map so far, you can see distinct patterns, with massive concentrations in Brittany and the region between Paris and Normandy, arcing down towards Lanquedoc and then swinging across to the Cote D’azur.

North eastern France appears to be relatively sparsely populated with megaliths. Further research will reveal whether this and other blank spots in Aquitaine had something to do with them not being built in the first place, the erosion of softer stone or more systematic destruction over the last 1,600 years.

The Americans always say God helps those who help themselves. The Captain has taken the spreadsheet and a 6 month sabbatical to hunt down as many stones as possible in his new camper. [He's still out there somewhere, we hope for a report soon - Ed] I will also systematically use some of my holidays to photograph French megalithic sites, while also looking at what else the EU has to offer.

We hope the site listings will encourage others, particularly natives, to photograph these sites for themselves. In due course we might offer French and German Language welcome portals to the site. The more pictures of new sites, the better.

While we appear to have Malta pretty much covered and Germany is progressing well, future plans include a similar systematic inventory of sites in Italy, Spain and Portugal, with a good start already having been made in Croatia and a couple of other interesting individual sites in Eastern Europe as well as Egypt. At this point we still need better maps and GPS software to cover Greece, Eastern Europe and the middle east. There are of course political and economic limitations in this.

I think we can honestly say that we hope that increasing awareness of these wonderful stones will improve their chance of being preserved for future generations for all mankind. Failing that, we will at least have a good photographic record and some healthy outdoor activity.

*** To see their many thousands of site listings, go to our new Megalith Map and head for France. You can't miss it! Thanks are also due to a number of other European contributors including Jan and Jan (x2), Bernard and many others

Note: Alex has just contributed data on 350 more sites from Eastern France and Southern Germany, now plotted on our main map. Can you help us track down and photograph them?

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Re: In Search of French Megalithic Sites by ModernExplorers on Saturday, 22 June 2013
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Wow 7000 sites in Western France, how many do you think there are in the entire country???
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Re: In Search of French Megalithic Sites by Anonymous on Thursday, 18 October 2007
hi, i spend a lot of time in portugal and if you need any info on any sites ther i will be happy to help.(the stone spiral at piodoa is worth a look!!)
i have also travelled through france hunting megolithic sites and have many pictures of both countries. let me know if you want any info.
regards,
Quigley
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Re: In Search of French Megalithic Sites by simonb on Friday, 10 June 2005
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Hi
I'm sure you have details of all the sites I've visited (many!) - I also have detailed driving & walking instructions to most in W Brittany in the form of a proto-Cope directory. Happy to forward these if you wish. Some are pretty well hidden in the woods!
Happy hunting! Simon
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    Re: In Search of French Megalithic Sites by Andy B on Saturday, 11 June 2005
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    Yes please!
    Andy
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    Re: In Search of French Megalithic Sites by TheCaptain on Sunday, 03 July 2005
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    From my recent experiences, some are so well hidden in the woods that you cant even see them from 5 metres away !

    One place I remember, not far from Carnac believe it or not, is so neglected that after an hour or so of searching amongst the gorse and bracken I was about to give up. Then two chaps on mountain bikes came past and assumed I was lost, and we got talking, and they got their map out. I was pretty certain I knew exactly where I was, and it wasnt where they pointed to, telling me the dolmen was near to a different track.

    As I had decided to give up, I started walking back to my van, but had one last look in amongst the gorse on the way, and there I caught a glimpse of a capstone sitting on two uprights, less than 5 metres from the track. I mentioned this to the two bikers, who didnt believe me, but came for a look. This of course started a big discussion amongst themselves, as it was they who were lost !

    But this wasnt a complete winner for me, as when I got back and looked in more references, I found out that there were in fact two, fairly big dolmens hidden somewhere in that mass of gorse, and I hadnt got a remote idea of what either looked like.
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