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Villagers call for action on Pagan siege Henge Wiltshire

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Avebury submitted by baz : Fire and Stone. Solstice celebrations at Avebury. (Vote or comment on this photo)
Avebury Parish Council is pressing the National Trust to take stronger action against travellers who camp in the village's tourist car park to celebrate Pagan festivals throughout the year. Councillors say residents feel they are under siege when large groups of revellers descend on them, not just at the summer solstice, but at Imbolc at the beginning of February, Ostara or spring equinox, Beltane or May Day, Lughnassad or Lammas at the end of July, Mabon or the autumnal equinox and Yule or the winter solstice.

Parish council chairman Jennifer Baldrey said problems began in the village following the Battle of the Beanfield in 1985 when the police and the National Trust stopped access to Stonehenge at the summer solstice.

"First a small group of people came but it has grown year on year," she said.
"The problem could be stopped immediately if the National Trust would take the appropriate action, but it seems unwilling or unable to do so.
"It must be remembered that on all occasions except solstice there are no facilities for toilets and water in the car park. Footpaths in the vicinity are used as toilets and this is unpleasant for both residents and visitors alike.
"We are very grateful to the local police for making things bearable for us. Avebury people are very patient but they are being pushed too far. The police can't afford to keep policing all year round and the National Trust are strapped for cash and haven't got the staff."


There have been complaints of travellers screaming obscenities just feet from villagers' windows and fears of the spread of disease because of the unsanitary conditions when toilets are not provided.
Richard Henderson, property manager for the National Trust at Avebury, said they had had frequent discussions with the parish council and were in the process of working something out.
He said: "We have tightened things up. People were coming every weekend to camp at Avebury and we have worked closely with the Sacred Rites Forum to narrow that down to the eight sacred times of the year.
"If we didn't allow them to camp in the car park, they would move into the centre of the village and I think people would find that even more unpleasant.
"We have been working closely with the parish council to sort matters out. We understand they represent the local community and we are keen that no-one is put out by the use of the site."

Mr Henderson denied there was a problem with unsanitary conditions as, he said, there are 24-hour toilets available on the site throughout the year.

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Re: Villagers call for action on Pagan siege by Anonymous on Friday, 26 December 2014
Yep,we used to go to Avebury back in the early 90's and there were about a 100 people there.Then when the festivals became heavily commercial,it became the only free event left open.
Until the pay festivals become cheap again,I'm afraid this is going to be a permanent problem.
Of course,there is a knee jerk reaction about putting up razor wire which points to a repressive system.
Possibly it would be better for mr Eavis too put his behemoth of a festival on a week earlier over the solstice weekend and you would see the numbers drop substantially.Leaving the more discerning types to enjoy the Avebury event,whilst the hooligan or "right on" types are trapped at the commercial concentration camp of Glasto.
If you want the stones to be a bit more easy going,then push the pay festival to revert back to the solstice weekend,which it used to be on by the way.
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Re: Villagers call for action on Pagan siege by Anonymous on Friday, 26 December 2014
It strikes me that this is a southern problem.
I visited Machry moor stone circles on the summer solstice on the Isle of Arran,Scotland and there was not one person in attendance.
Avebury is a comfortable distance from London and Bristol and ideal for urbanites to visit the country and do a bit of meditation at the site then return home to the city and go back to the drab life of the rat race as a solicitor or manager at a dead end company.
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Re: Villagers call for action on Pagan siege by Spindleberry on Wednesday, 08 November 2006
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I visited Avebury during the early summer - It is a lovely sacred place. It was so good to be able to touch the stones, feel their power and the feeling of peace that the whole area brings. I sat and leaned against one of the big stones and meditated in the sun.

To many, this is where we would love to hold our ceremonies - pagan sites are few and far between and make our rituals very special and powerful. I would not dream of abusing another religion's sacred site - for example a church or chapel - it SHAMES me that a few ignorant people spoil it for us.

If the few continue to abuse this priviledge, then sadly we will lose the freedom and the right to a very unique site.

When I was a small child my parents took me to see Stonehenge and I can remember touching the stones - now, my children can only look at it from a distance.

The selfish arrogance of a few will spoil other sites for the many and all sites will eventually end up fenced off - this would be a tragedy.

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Re: Villagers call for action on Pagan siege by Anonymous on Sunday, 13 August 2006
I can't believe that there are people out there that are totally disrespectful to this site. I've visited many times and have always found it tidy and clean and quiet, however when I did happen to go back close to a festival date I was shocked at how busy the place was and how arrogant and rude most of the poeple were. I saw them letting their kids run riot and screaming and chasing the animals around the field, jumping on and off the stones and kicking scraping them. It made me feel physically sick to see the place being misused like that, I had to leave and it ruined my day and I DON'T live there! I can totally understand what the locals are talking about! People need to get their lowlife acts together and appreciate that this sacred site is SACRED and also that its open and free for all to enjoy thats ALL not just them!
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Re: Villagers call for action on Pagan siege by Andy B on Friday, 24 June 2005
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I bet they've all b*ggered off to Glastonbury now to get soaked! What a fuss over a few days each year.
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    Re: Villagers call for action on Pagan siege by Anonymous on Friday, 24 June 2005
    Those without tickets are still hanging around camping in the hedges. ("Keep of the stones! psst wanna buy some EEE's")

    The Red Lion nearly closed at one point because someone took a dump in a urinal and someone else OD'd in the ladies.
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Re: Villagers call for action on Pagan siege by Anonymous on Friday, 24 June 2005
I wonder if a "Visitors Centre" could be set up outside of Avebury to take care of the needs of visitors, and extra "porta-potties" be set up for when the festival dates occur, and perhaps a few extra constables be assigned. and heavy fines be imposed on lawbreakers. The last two suggestions would not be overly expensive-considering the alternatives, NO ONE WANTS TO SEE WIRE USED TO DETER VISITORS !!!!
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Re: Villagers call for action on Pagan siege by Anonymous on Wednesday, 22 June 2005
this afternoon someone through a rock through the window of the Post Office in Avebury high st.
The chap in the shop was livid shouting "Your all bloody s***** I don't know I bothered staying open for you"
The idiot with the rock didn't help at all...
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Re: Villagers call for action on Pagan siege by Moonwatcher on Wednesday, 22 June 2005
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No we dont want to see razor wire etc, but the chances are that in the not to distant future some sort of action will be taken to prevent access.
The site is managed very well at the moment by both National Trust and the Pagan Volunteer Goup who organise clear-up's of the site, but the reality is that it cannot cope with large numbers of people who abuse the site.
How often do we see areas roped off because of errossion?

I do sympathise with the villages, however it is a minority of people (as is always the case) who cause the problems.
These are the same people who bang on about saving the planet and how we should live in peace & harmony (Man!) and then totaly contradict themselves by their anti-social behaviour.

I recently held my handfasting (pagan wedding) at Avebury. There was about 50 guests who managed to enjoy themselves without inflicting carnage on this site. Everyone we spoke to in the village was friendly and welcomed us with open arms, and is a shame that this...

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Re: Villagers call for action on Pagan siege by Thorgrim on Wednesday, 22 June 2005
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Do we really want to see razor wire at Avebury too? Pity if the attention seeking antics of the few spoil things for the many.
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