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Squares in a circular world

Submitted by vicky on Saturday, 29 November 2003  Page Views: 4117

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Gibbet Moor North
Gibbet Moor North submitted by Vicky : Gibbet Moor North stone circle, Derbyshire, GR: SK28217085 Gibbet Moor North stone circle is located on the featureless Gibbet Moor, with no footpaths, to the east of Chatsworth House. Discovered in 1985, it is an unusual site consisting of three standing local grit stones that appear to form three corners of a square. The stones, two of which are upright and one of which is leaning, are all ... (Vote or comment on this photo)
People in the Bronze Age appear to have lived in a world obsessed by circles - round houses, stone circles, round barrows – but in one particular area of the Peak District the inhabitants decided, for reasons best known to themselves, that squares were the way forward. On Gibbet Moor near to Chatsworth House there can be found a square stone circle and a square barrow.

The stone circle – Gibbet Moor North - was discovered in 1985. It is an unusual site consisting of three standing stones forming three corners of a square. Two of them are upright and the third is leaning. This kind of setting is known as a ‘Four Poster’ and is common in Scotland but very rare in England. Although there is no evidence for the position of a surviving fourth stone John Barnatt of the Peak District National Park Archaeology Service believes that all traces have probably been removed by a covering of peat.

Not far from here is a square barrow with the interesting name of Hob Hurst’s House . This barrow is made up of a central rectangular mound, with an accompanying square ditch then finally an outer square bank. When Thomas Bateman, the famous Derbyshire barrow digger, excavated the site in 1853, he found a square stone-lined grave containing scorched human bones and two pieces of lead ore as well as an unusual semi-circle of small sandstone rocks surrounding the bones. The ‘marking off’ the dead in this way was common practice in the south of England, but again very rare in this part of the world.

Square barrows are not unknown in the prehistoric period but they are usually found much later in the Iron Age and in areas such as North Yorkshire. And so we are left to wonder why in a circular world did a small community of Bronze Age people decide to break the mold? Were they visionaries looking to the future, to a world dominated by squares?

References:

J. Barnatt “The Henges, Stone Circles and Ringcairns of the Peak District”, Department of Archaeology and Prehistory, University of Sheffield (1990)

T. Bateman “Ten Years Diggings in Celtic and Saxon Grave Hills in the Counties of Derby, Stafford and York”, London (1861)

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Re: Squares in a circular world by PERKYPUFFIN on Friday, 05 October 2018
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In my opinion square enclosures are associated with Neolithic settlements. A map of a village in Scandinavia carved 4000 to 3000 BC clearly shows a Neolithic village of in excess of 30 round dwellings enclosed in a square, they had a stone circle near the village due east.
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    Re: Squares in a circular world by Martin_L on Friday, 05 October 2018
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    "A map of a village in Scandinavia carved 4000 to 3000 BC clearly shows[...]" : Where in Scandinavia do we have this carving "clearly" showing a map of a village?
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      Re: Squares in a circular world by PERKYPUFFIN on Monday, 17 December 2018
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      I will try and give a better answer but is on a microlith slate found at one of the sites on Bornholm Island.
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Re: Squares in a circular world by Anonymous on Friday, 16 January 2004
Sorry, I asked about Hob Hurst's House a few moments ago - I've now read the site a bit further and it's there. Don't bother replying!
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Re: Squares in a circular world by TimPrevett on Friday, 02 January 2004
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Not Bronze Age, but Iron Age... I have just come across references to cropmarks of Square Burial Enclosures not far E from Stafford.

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.srf?x=398710&y=323800&z=3&sv=398710,323800&st=4&ar=Y&dn=542

Cheers, Tim
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    Re: Squares in a circular world by Anonymous on Friday, 16 January 2004
    Do you have any information on Hob Hurst's House area, just above Chatsworth. I'm an A-level student and my coursework is Ritual Landscapes in the Peak District, Haphazard or Planned. I have visited but I think the site is part of other sites. i hope to be with on on Saturday, 31st Jan, 10.am
    Ann Boulton, just registered. [email protected]
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Re: Squares in a circular world by TimPrevett on Monday, 01 December 2003
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Got it. B/W aerial pic on page iv. of Dorset Barrows Supplement by L V Grinsell, published by The Dorset Natural History & Archaeological Society 1982. It shows 2 barrows (only remaining as crop marks), each in its own square enclosure, at Winterbourne Steepleton - no grid ref. supplied.
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    Re: Squares in a circular world by Anonymous on Tuesday, 02 December 2003
    I've been looking at these as I am looking to visit the area but the official line is that they are now thought to be post-medieval in date and be associated
    with rabbit farming. The grid ref it gives is SY612885. Is it the same?
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      Re: Squares in a circular world by Vicky on Tuesday, 02 December 2003
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      The search goes on then. Does anyone know if there are any square Bronze Age barrows anywhere else in the UK? I know there are examples from the Iron Age.

      Cheers

      Vicky
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        Re: Squares in a circular world by stu on Tuesday, 02 December 2003
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        What about the square barrow at Rod Knoll...(if it is still classed as that of course)...only a coupla minutes down the road from Beeley....
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          Re: Squares in a circular world by Vicky on Tuesday, 02 December 2003
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          Nice one Stu - I've just checked Rod Knoll out in Barnatt's Barrow book and he says it is a square barrow sharing a 'similar architectural traits to Hob Hurst's House' which is only 1.6km away. Even better we 've now got two square stone circles and two square barrows in the area :-)

          Cheers

          Vicky
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        Re: Squares in a circular world by stu on Tuesday, 02 December 2003
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        P.S. There's also that excellent rectangular cairn on Stanton Moor....west of the trig point.
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      Re: Squares in a circular world by TimPrevett on Thursday, 04 December 2003
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      I do not know what the grid ref is, as it is not clearly given; shame if it is to do with rabbits! A bit of an anti-climax if so!
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Re: Squares in a circular world by TimPrevett on Sunday, 30 November 2003
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In Dorset I picked up a Barrows reference book from the county museum, and I am sure I have seen a square barrow mentioned in that. I will have a look when I remember!
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Re: Squares in a circular world by stu on Saturday, 29 November 2003
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Another suggested four-poster has been found on Gibbet Moor about 400m north of Gibbet North......

Only 2 stones remain here tho'....but the size of the stones and the distance apart are very similar to Gibbet North.
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