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Submitted by enkidu41 on Sunday, 21 July 2002  Page Views: 9980

Neolithic and Bronze AgeSite Name: Deadman's Bottom Cists
Country: England County: Devon Type: Cairn
Nearest Town: Ivybridge / Princetown  Nearest Village: Sheeptor / Lee Moor
Map Ref: SX6071167027  Landranger Map Number: 202
Latitude: 50.486453N  Longitude: 3.964811W
Condition:
5Perfect
4Almost Perfect
3Reasonable but with some damage
2Ruined but still recognisable as an ancient site
1Pretty much destroyed, possibly visible as crop marks
0No data.
-1Completely destroyed
3 Ambience:
5Superb
4Good
3Ordinary
2Not Good
1Awful
0No data.
no data Access:
5Can be driven to, probably with disabled access
4Short walk on a footpath
3Requiring a bit more of a walk
2A long walk
1In the middle of nowhere, a nightmare to find
0No data.
no data Accuracy:
5co-ordinates taken by GPS or official recorded co-ordinates
4co-ordinates scaled from a detailed map
3co-ordinates scaled from a bad map
2co-ordinates of the nearest village
1co-ordinates of the nearest town
0no data
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Deadman's Bottom Cists
Deadman's Bottom Cists submitted by Petercastle : A photo of the southern cairn at SX608669. (Vote or comment on this photo)
Two cisted grave cairns, All elements of the two cisted graves appear to be present, The Southern cist has a cairn circle around it, The Northern cist is on the edge of a cairn. At the East and West of the cists are small enclosures.

Update September 2019: The Prehistoric Dartmoor Walks (PDW) website includes an entry for the Embanked Cairn Circle at SX 60711 67027 - see their pages for
Deadman's Bottom Embanked Cairn Circle (aka Deadman's Bottom 1, Turner B1);
Deadman's Bottom, North Cist (aka Deadman's Bottom N1, Lancombe Brook 2; Dixon 8, Grinsell Shaugh Prior 7), and
Deadman's Bottom, South Ring Setting Cairn and Cist (aka Deadman's Bottom N2, Langcombe Brook 1, Turner D12, Dixon 7, Grinsell Shaugh Prior 8).

Also see PDW's page for Guide to the Langcombe Brook & Deadman's Bottom Cists for a list of all the cists, cairns and ring settings around this location, complete with links to their equivalent Portal site pages.

These cairns and cists are also recorded as:
Pastscape Monument No. 441726
Pastscape Monument No. 441673; and
Pastscape Monument No. 441697.

The Devon and Dartmoor HER also includes entries for these sites. See:
MDV12410 (RING CAIRN in the Parish of Shaugh Prior),
MDV5120 (Cist in the Parish of Shaugh Prior), and
MDV5119 (Cist in the Parish of Shaugh Prior).

These cairns are also scheduled as part of Historic England List ID 1016145 (A prehistoric settlement with cairns and a historic tin mill, streamwork and buildings lying adjacent to the Langcombe Brook).
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Deadman's Bottom Cists
Deadman's Bottom Cists submitted by Bladup : Deadman's Bottom Cists, The Western enclosure/cairn circle, This enclosure has large stones. (Vote or comment on this photo)

Deadman's Bottom Cists
Deadman's Bottom Cists submitted by Bladup (Vote or comment on this photo)

Deadman's Bottom Cists
Deadman's Bottom Cists submitted by Bladup : Deadman's Bottom Cists, The cairn in front of the Northern cist. (Vote or comment on this photo)

Deadman's Bottom Cists
Deadman's Bottom Cists submitted by Bladup : Deadman's Bottom Cists, The Southern cairn circle and cist. (Vote or comment on this photo)

Deadman's Bottom Cists
Deadman's Bottom Cists submitted by Bladup : Deadman's Bottom Cists, The Eastern enclosure, Like a little ring cairn, Probably for rituals/cremations before been interred into the cists. (Vote or comment on this photo)

Deadman's Bottom Cists
Deadman's Bottom Cists submitted by Bladup : Deadman's Bottom Cists, The Southern cairn circle, cist and large displaced capstone [left foreground].

Deadman's Bottom Cists
Deadman's Bottom Cists submitted by Bladup : Deadman's Bottom Cists, The Southern cairn circle and cist.

Deadman's Bottom Cists
Deadman's Bottom Cists submitted by Bladup : Deadman's Bottom Cists, The lovely Southern cairn circle and cist.

Deadman's Bottom Cists
Deadman's Bottom Cists submitted by Bladup : Deadman's Bottom Cists, The Southern cist and it's circle.

Deadman's Bottom Cists
Deadman's Bottom Cists submitted by Bladup : Deadman's Bottom Cists, The Northern cist is on the edge of it's cairn, Maybe there's another in it's middle.

Deadman's Bottom Cists
Deadman's Bottom Cists submitted by Bladup : Deadman's Bottom Cists, The Northern cist.

Deadman's Bottom Cists
Deadman's Bottom Cists submitted by Bladup

Deadman's Bottom Cists
Deadman's Bottom Cists submitted by Petercastle : The two cairns and accompanying cremation circles at SX608669. (1 comment)

Deadman's Bottom Cists
Deadman's Bottom Cists submitted by Petercastle : The northerly cairn/kist at SX608669.

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 3m NNW 348° Deadman's Bottom Cairn Circle* Cairn (SX60716703)
 299m WNW 283° Plym Steps* Cairn (SX60426710)
 347m WSW 251° Langcombe Brook 7* Cist (SX60386692)
 387m SE 139° Deadman's Bottom D Cairn (SX60966673)
 415m SE 137° Deadman's Bottom E* Cairn (SX6098466714)
 490m E 94° Deadman's Bottom F* Cairn (SX61206698)
 559m NNE 16° Calveslake* Cairn (SX60886756)
 578m WNW 297° Lower Hartor tor settlement.* Ancient Village or Settlement (SX602673)
 636m SSE 164° Langcombe Brook 5 Cairn (SX6087566412)
 804m SE 137° Grim’s Grave* Cairn (SX61246642)
 894m SE 141° Langcombe Brook 4* Cairn (SX6125166313)
 904m SE 142° Langcombe South* Cairn (SX61256630)
 1.1km NNE 23° Great Gnat's Head Cist* Cist (SX6117468034)
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 1.4km WNW 283° Standing Stone Near Cairn at Head of Drizzlecombe Row 4* Standing Stone (Menhir) (SX5937067374)
 1.4km W 277° Drizzlecombe Settlement* Ancient Village or Settlement (SX59306723)
 1.4km WSW 255° Giant's hill cairn* Cairn (SX59316670)
 1.4km W 270° Drizzlecombe cairn 2* Ring Cairn (SX5926567065)
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Re: Deadman's Bottom by Anne T on Wednesday, 15 February 2017
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For further information on all the cists and cairns at Deadman's Bottom, please refer to Prehistoric Dartmoor Walks(PDW) page on the Guide to the Langcombe Brook and Deadman's Bottom Cists, which lists all 11 sites.

Notes by Dave Parks of PDW tells us that "the southern cist was excavated and out of it came a beaker and arrowheads".
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Re: Deadman's Bottom by Petercastle on Tuesday, 15 March 2005
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The photographs show the two cairns with their kists which have parts of the retaining kerbs left.Both the kists have been excavated by Worth and sections of European Beaker pottery were found in the southern kist.What has been discribed as Cremation Circles can be found close to the cairns,two to the eastern side of the northern cairn and one to the western side of the southern.Worth also excavated these and found they had paved floors,where he found some charcoal and underneath he found the evidence of burning. There are the remains of three houses at the foot of the hill close to the Langcombe Brook.
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    Re: Deadman's Bottom by enkidu41 on Tuesday, 15 March 2005
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    More recent excavations have made some of Worth's conclusions less likely, particularly that 2 of the rings were cremation circles from which ashes were transferred to the neighbouring cists. He took no account of a boundary bank which would normally be associated with hut circles, not cremation rings.
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Re: Deadman's Bottom by Petercastle on Monday, 14 March 2005
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I know of no stone circle at Deadman's Bottom.There are kists and cairns but as far as I am aware nothing else.
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    Re: Deadman's Bottom by enkidu41 on Monday, 14 March 2005
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    Hi Petercastle. Yes, you're correct. There are 3 circles at Deadman's Bottom but they are reckoned to be hut circles which have been dismantled, possibly to provide material for the two cisted graves close-by. We need to amend the site description. Thanks for pointing this out.
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    Re: Deadman's Bottom by Petercastle on Wednesday, 16 March 2005
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    Hi enkidu,
    Thanks for your comment.I was not sure what these circles were.The only information I had was from Worth.I did not think they were huts though as they did not appear to have any entrances.I will have to go back and have a look again.It is one of my favourite spots on Dartmoor.
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    Re: Deadman's Bottom by enkidu41 on Thursday, 17 March 2005
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    Hi Peter,
    To be fair, Worth's suggestion has not been entirely rejected. Against his conclusions are the remains of a boundary bank surrounding the circles suggesting a protective element for the circles. One would not expect this if the circles were purely for cremation purposes. However, as you say, neither of rings 1 and 2 have entrances one would normally associate with dwellings. Both were paved but only a small amount of charcoal was found between the paving slabs. However, the ground beneath the slabs does show discolouring due to heat which could be attributable to domestic burning or possibly funeral pyres. It is difficult to see why paving was laid over a place for funeral pyres unless for a change of usage. You pays your money......
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