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Previously overlooked patterns in the cave art of southern France and Spain suggest man might have learned written communication 25,000 years earlier than we thought.

Visit the caves of Pech Merle, Font-de-Gaume and Rouffignac in southern France and you will witness some of the most breathtaking art our planet has to offer. Images of bisons, lions and other creatures loom from the cavern walls. Herds of horses and the occasional rhino, not to mention the odd mammoth and giant bull, parade across the rocks. Many animals are depicted in vivid colours, with a sense of perspective and anatomical detail that suggest these artists had acquired considerable skill.

These underground galleries, found mostly in France and Spain, also turn out to be remarkably old. The works at Rouffignac have been dated to around 13,000 years old, while those at nearby Chauvet and Lascaux are thought to be more than 30,000 years old. This testimony on rock walls – in daubs of ochre and charcoal mixed with spittle and fat – shows that our hunter-gatherer ancestors could depict the world around them in a startlingly sophisticated way. As the art critic John Berger once said of these painters, they appear to have had “grace from the start”.

There is another aspect to this art that often escapes attention, but which is now providing scientists with fresh insights into our recent evolution. Instead of studying those magnificent galloping horses and bisons, researchers are investigating the symbols painted beside them.

These signs are rarely mentioned in most studies of ancient cave art. Some are gathered in groups, some appear in ones or twos, while others are mixed in with the caves’ images of animals. There are triangles, squares, full circles, semicircles, open angles, crosses and groups of dots. Others are more complex: drawings of hands with distorted fingers (known as negative hands); rows of parallel lines (called finger flutings); diagrams of branch-like symbols known as penniforms, or little sketches of hut-like entities called tectiforms. In total, 26 specific signs are used repeatedly in these caves, created in the millennia when Europe descended into – and emerged from – the last great Ice Age.

“These symbols are all over these cave walls, but no one really notices them,” says Genevieve von Petzinger (University of Victoria, British Columbia.)

That is a mistake, according to von Petzinger. For the symbols provide clear evidence of the way our ancestors moved from representing ideas realistically – as in those beautiful images of bisons and mammoths – to the stage where they began to represent concepts symbolically. In some cases, signs appear to emerge from the use of truncated images of an animal and eventually come to act as a symbol for that animal in its entirety. For example, a wavy line used to depict the back of a horse in a larger painting eventually comes to stand for the entire horse in different sets of paintings.

But there is more to von Petzinger’s work than the study of the appearance of the symbols. Working with her colleague April Nowell, she has created a database of all the signs found in more than 200 caves and other shelters in France and Spain. The aim was to study where and when they were first used, and in what combinations, and to compare them with markings found on other ancient artefacts. The results are startling, for the database shows many symbols are frequently arranged in specific clusters repeated over and over again in different caves (a negative hand with finger fluting, for example).

“What we found was quite remarkable,” says von Petzinger. “There is definite patterning in the way these signs were used.” In other words, she and Nowell have shown that these markings are no mere abstract scribbles but appear to be a code that was painted on to rock by the Cro-Magnon people, who lived in Europe 30,000 years ago. They seem to have found evidence that some form of written language was being attempted by our Stone Age ancestors, an idea that – if substantiated – would push back the recognised birth of writing from about 6,000 years ago, as produced by the first agrarian societies, to an incredible 30,000 years ago.

Von Petzinger and Nowell remain cautious, however. “We cannot use the ‘L’ or ‘W’ words yet,” says Nowell. “This is not writing as we know it or language as we understand it. However, in these caves we are looking at the patterning of symbols, and if we can unravel that, we can get to their meaning.”

Their caution is understandable. Yet the evidence is striking. For example, von Petzinger has found one set of five symbols – “II ^ III X II” – to be especially common, appearing on walls like a recurring motif. Intriguingly, she has recently found the sequence in another, unexpected location. “At St Germain de la Rivière, north of Bordeaux, the skeleton of a young woman – dated as being around 15,500 years old – was discovered with a necklace made of the teeth of red deer,” adds von Petzinger. “Three of those teeth have markings on them: ‘II ^’ was on one; ‘III’ on another; and ‘X II’ on the third. We have our five common symbols appearing on a necklace.”

At this time, there were no red deer in France and it is thought the necklace teeth came from Spain, possibly as items of trade between different tribes. Obsidian and other goods are also known to have been exchanged by groups from these regions. But if the necklace pieces arrived by this route, were the symbols carved on to them before or after they arrived in France? If it was the former, this suggests a crude form of written language may have already linked the different groups of Cro-Magnon hunter-gatherers then living in southern Europe. Perhaps the symbols make up the letters of a name or it’s possible they contained a religious message.

In effect, this work is part of an information revolution, adds von Petzinger. “Scientists had noticed these symbols before, but until we made our database we could not analyse them properly. Today, I can ask my database any question I like. For example, how many hectiforms are found at each cave that were painted, say, between 15,000 and 20,000 years ago? That slowly pulls out the patterns.”

Their work has one other important aspect. Those strings of symbols seem to have been in widespread use 30,000 years ago, as modern humans spread through Europe. When did modern humans first develop and use them? Did Homo sapiens invent them after we arrived in Europe or do they have an even older lineage? Is it possible that our ancestors carried them out of their African homelands when they first began their global diaspora, about 70,000 years ago?

The answers to these questions reveal a division in the world of palaeontology and anthropology. On one hand, scientists such as Richard Klein (Stanford University,) Nicholas Conard (Tübingen University, Germany,) and others argue that human behaviour – involving use of complex symbols, art and sophisticated tools – did not appear until about 35,000 years ago. Pointing to works such as those at Chauvet, Lascaux and other caves, and to discoveries that suggest that musical instruments, boats and religious objects were first made around this time, proponents of this theory argue that an abrupt change in our behaviour – possibly due to mutations in our DNA that affected our intellect and brain structures – occurred as we began to pour into Europe. These changes then triggered a cultural revolution that later spread round the world.

Other scientists disagree, among them Alison Brooks (Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History, Washington,) and Prof. Peter Mitchell (Oxford.) They argue that there is plenty of evidence to indicate that humans had reached their full intellectual potential long before they left Africa. Recent discoveries made in South Africa include tiny flint points, which may be the first arrows ever made, and beautifully crafted pieces of ochre that suggest works of arts and jewellery were being created there 70,000 to 90,000 years ago.

Does the work of von Petzinger and Nowell shed any light on this division? Do any of those symbols at Lascaux, Chauvet and Rouffignac appear in earlier forms of art found in South Africa? According to von Petzinger, the answer is probably yes. Many of the swirls, crosses, circles, open angles and crosshatches seen in France are also found in far earlier works from Africa. For example, the open-angle symbol can be seen on engravings at Blombos cave in South Africa, where artistic artefacts about 75,000 years old have been found.

“When you look at the symbols on the caves in France and Spain, you have to realise that these are things our ancestors were already comfortable with,” says von Petzinger. “They had been using them for a long time.”

In other words, the artistic genius responsible for Chauvet was part of our African birthright. As Nowell says: “Caves are funny little microcosms that protect paint. If it wasn’t for the fact that these people decided to put some of their art there, then we might never have realised just how advanced they were artistically. In fact, the populations that produced these artists were people just like you or me.”

For more, see www.rawstory.com.

Note: Twenty-Six specific signs are used repeatedly in these caves, created in the millennia when Europe went through the last great Ice Age

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Re: Did Stone Age cavemen talk to each other in symbols? by Neanderthal on Monday, 10 June 2019
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This is a yes from me, it is my area of research, a common set of symbols can be found in flint tools of certain age and figurative finds found in connection with said tools. It cannot be proven they were used to communicate but that is what logic dictates, they could have been used for teaching the names of the animals etc..

:- https://eoliths.blogspot.com/

These are not like the symbols found by Genevieve von Petzinger, but are commonly of animal face profiles, half side on views and full side on views, they are often quite subtle but accurate descriptions can be found. Each item often holds numerous descriptions. The items are properly known as Figure stones or Pierre's figures, but in the US they go by the name portable rock art.

Common symbols are:- Thumb/Finger, Hand, Foot, Bear, Elephant/Mammoth, Bird, Feline, Phallus, Ape, Hooded Figure, Horse.
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Re: Did Stone Age cavemen talk to each other in symbols? by Anonymous on Wednesday, 03 December 2014
I thought when looking and not thinking too much, it seems to be a training guide, WHERE to fire spears/arrows when hunting. I believe most of these points on animal will disable them, allowing the kill shots. Just my opinion though.
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    Re: Did Stone Age cavemen talk to each other in symbols? by PERKYPUFFIN on Saturday, 23 February 2019
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    Yes, you are correct, perhaps more than half the images made prior to 2500 BC are training or instructional. The Bison image at Cresswell Grags is surrounded by 3 people and it is showing you how to drive the animal into the cave with one man elevated with a pole axe killing it from above. I have seen many images in Pembrokeshire, dated approx 3600 BC that show how to fish, how to train dogs, how to breed pigs.
    Some of these images have carved seats in front just like a classroom with a blackboard display.
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Re: Did Stone Age cavemen talk to each other in symbols? by Stefan-Cristian on Tuesday, 25 November 2014
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Following a study recently found that one of the petroglyphs found at Del cerro de los Chivos, Tacuichamona, Sinaloa shows symbols of European Neolithic civilization (V sing, bucraniul (bull skull), and comb).
These symbols were transmitted over time and can be found on neolithic pottery, clay statuettes belonging to the Bronze Age culture Zuto Brdo - Garla Mare and a bronze seal ring found on Seimeni, Dobrogea, Romania.

https://sites.google.com/site/seimenisatdinneolitic/culturi-precolumbiene---similitudini
https://sites.google.com/site/seimenineoliticsipreneolitic/
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Re: Did Stone Age cavemen talk to each other in symbols? by PJK7009 on Monday, 23 June 2014
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I recently submitted a find I made to this site after reading this article. I didnt know what to make of this carving until now.
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Re: Did Stone Age cavemen talk to each other in symbols? by Anonymous on Wednesday, 23 January 2013
I am replying to this post as it seems someone may have actually worked out the Chauvet cave paintings. They think there is a layer of art that is pure message rather than simple animals.

you can find the discussion on the caves here;
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread912247/pg1

Very interesting read and does tend to open your eyes and mind to the possibility of it all.
Some pictures are a bit hard to adjust your eyes to, but some nice points are made.
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    Re: Did Stone Age cavemen talk to each other in symbols? by Martin_L on Wednesday, 23 January 2013
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    Again this interpretations are based on Pareidolia/Apophenia. Applying the same method to structures of wallpapers for example will also perhaps reveal maps, faces, landscapes etc. . One of the most famous examples is the so-called "Face on Mars".
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    Re: Did Stone Age cavemen talk to each other in symbols? by bat400 on Thursday, 24 January 2013
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    The article's writer says of the Chauvet lions, "IMO, these animals are a distraction."
    IMO anyone who thinks astonishing, beuatiful, and artistically complex drawings are "simple animals" needs to go get his soul examined.
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Re: Did Stone Age cavemen talk to each other in symbols? by bat400 on Monday, 17 September 2012
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A similar article from http://www.pasthorizonspr.com:


In 2009, a ground-breaking study by Genevieve von Petzinger revealed that dots, lines and other geometric signs found in prehistoric European caves may be the precursor to an ancient system of written communication dating back nearly 30,000 years. Von Petzinger, with University of Victoria anthropology professor April Nowell, compiled the markings from 146 different sites in Ice Age France, making it possible to compare the signs on a larger scale than had ever previously been attempted.

In Palaeolithic cave art, geometric signs tend to outnumber figurative images and yet, they remained relatively understudied. Von Petzinger compiled a digital catalogue of all known geometric signs found in parietal art in France and then trended the results looking for patterns of continuity and change over time and space – this remarkable database has been distilled into a simple graphically intuitive online system at the Bradstone...

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Re: Did Stone Age cavemen talk to each other in symbols? by Anonymous on Thursday, 13 September 2012
I read a book which argued that many of theses "abstract" symbols were commonly to be found in all sorts of rock art. The book postulated that these were representations of the visual cortex's reaction to hallucinogenic substances, patterns created by the brain. These are common to all humans because our visual cortex works in the same way for all of us. It is possible that these "regular" symbols could be recognised by other "tribes", as they would be in effect common to all tribes who used hallucinogenics in ritual. This common bond could indeed indicate common knowledge, a universal "shamen" language.
I wish I could remember the name of the book. It also researched modern examples of shamanistic ritual which demonstrated that the visual patterns are still common to tribal peoples today.

Carrie UK
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    Re: Did Stone Age cavemen talk to each other in symbols? by Brigit on Monday, 01 October 2012
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    Hi Carrie,
    David Lewis Williams and T.A.Dowson published a paper in 1988
    The signs of all times:entopic phenomena in upper paleolithic in the journal Current Anthropology. In which they identified six entopic forms generated by the inherent structure of the visual nervous system and related these and their appearance in rock and cave art to shamanistic hallucinatory trance. Lewis williams went on to write a book with Jean Clottes, entitled the Shamans of Prehistory:Trance and Magic in the Painted caves published by NewYork:Abrams it recieved poor academic aclaim at the time since it was based on speculation and recent observation of shamanistic practise to draw possible comparisons with the paleolithic art.

    In 2002 David Lewis Williams published The Mind in The Cave:Consciousness and the origins of Art London: Thames&Hudson
    which could be the book you mention

    but also moving into the Neolithic
    J.Dronfield published a paper titled Migraine,light and hallucinations:the...

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Re: Did Stone Age cavemen talk to each other in symbols? by TheCaptain on Wednesday, 12 September 2012
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Yes indeed, these symbols do appear in many of the caves with the ancient art, and with regular similarities.

But I struggle to really think of them as being "language and writing" between one and the other, mainly because of the huge time difference between the various art in different caves. Some cave art is 30,000 years old, some only 10,000 years old. thats 20,000 years apart from each other.

If we think back 20,000 years from today, I hardly think that the "L and W" of then and now would be at all comparable...

But on the other hand - its got to mean something!
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