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Neolithic and Bronze AgeSite Name: Harolds Stones Alternative Name: Harold's Stones (Trellech); Harold Stones
Country: Wales County: Monmouthshire Type: Stone Row / Alignment
Nearest Town: Monmouth  Nearest Village: Trellech
Map Ref: SO49930514  Landranger Map Number: 162
Latitude: 51.742713N  Longitude: 2.72658W
Condition:
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4Almost Perfect
3Reasonable but with some damage
2Ruined but still recognisable as an ancient site
1Pretty much destroyed, possibly visible as crop marks
0No data.
-1Completely destroyed
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3Ordinary
2Not Good
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 3 Access:
5Can be driven to, probably with disabled access
4Short walk on a footpath
3Requiring a bit more of a walk
2A long walk
1In the middle of nowhere, a nightmare to find
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5co-ordinates taken by GPS or official recorded co-ordinates
4co-ordinates scaled from a detailed map
3co-ordinates scaled from a bad map
2co-ordinates of the nearest village
1co-ordinates of the nearest town
0no data
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Harolds Stones
Harolds Stones submitted by Horatio : Travelling through Trelech but sadly only my phone with me to get a picture of these lovely stones. They are in a 12 metre alignment with a possibly fourth stone being robbed away or destroyed in the late 18th century. The stones are of a conglomerate rock that's known as pudding stone. All the stones lean at different angles with the tallest being over 4 metres in height. As with many stone al... (Vote or comment on this photo)
Three tall stones stand leaning at all angles in an open field. Their purpose is unknown, and they may once have been part of a larger stone monument, possibly a circle. Although they were said to commemorate a battle won by King Harold, they very likely date from the Bronze Age.

A folklore tradition tells how they were thrown down from the nearby Sugar Loaf mountain by Jack o'Kent, a giant, when he was playing pitch and toss with the Devil (as you do :-).

Trelleck was a major medieval settlement, and was named after the stones tre - three, lech - stone. The stones are depicted on a sundial in the church.

Access: Just south of Trellick along the B4293. Signposted between two long hedges, but easily missed. Small lay-by for parking.

For more information see Coflein NPRN 221159, which describes these stones as "three spectacular uprights (which) are (made) of a local brown conglomerate or 'puddingstone'". The most recent, 2008, entry adds: "The central stone of the three has been dressed to smooth its surface, and bears two large cup marks on its face."

The Journal of Antiquities also features a page for these stones - see their entry for Harold’s Stones, Trellech, Monmouthshire, which includes a photograph, a description of the stones, local folklore and information about the 17th century, four-sided sundial at St Nicholas's Church in the village, which has images of the historical features within the village, including these stones.

Update October 2019: The Harolds Stones are also featured on the Stone Rows of Great Britain website. Their entry includes a description, a plan of the row from a recent survey carried out in May 2018, photographs of the alignment from a number of angles, access information and a list of online resources for more information. The SRoGB entry also includes photographs of the sundial with the carving of the stones, now found in the local church; they note: "This stone depicts other antiquities in the area and was carved for Lady Magdalen Probert in 1689".
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Harolds Stones
Harolds Stones submitted by byll : The three standing stones at Trellech seen from the south side. Each stone leans at a pronounced angle. Reputedly a fourth stone a little distance away was destroyed in the late 18th century (Cymru fu - anonymous 1890). (Vote or comment on this photo)

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Harolds Stones submitted by dodomad : Beckie Burr writes: before I visited the Harold's Stones in Wales, I thought it would be magical to capture them beneath Orion's Belt. Three stones, three stars. Well…it turns out I was lucky the night I was there! (Pleiades just in frame too!) Photo by Beckie Burr on Instagram, posted with permission. (Vote or comment on this photo)

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Harolds Stones submitted by Bladup : Harold's Stones. (Vote or comment on this photo)

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Harolds Stones submitted by Bladup : Harold's Stones. This Original Artwork in a glass frame is £49.99 + Postage (Just whatever it costs), and is 29 cm x 19 and a half cm. A limited (to a 100) edition print in a 8" x 10" glass frame would be £19.99 + £2.90 postage, E-mail me at [email protected] if interested. (4 comments - Vote or comment on this photo)

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Harolds Stones submitted by hamish : On the same visit, nice day. (Vote or comment on this photo)

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Harolds Stones submitted by cerrig : The smallest of the 3 stones,and the odd one out, being a slab type rather than a pillar. From this angle it reminds me of the stories that are sometimes told of these stones, regarding someone being turned to stone for some crime or other. This one looks to me like a hooded figure, walking away to the right,carrying a bag slung over the left shoulder.

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Harolds Stones submitted by rldixon : Harolds stone colour 15th july 2006 (1 comment)

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Harolds Stones submitted by SandyG : Plan of the Harolds Stones and adjacent earthworks (Source: Survey at 1:200 by Sandy Gerrard). (4 comments)

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Harolds Stones submitted by Humbucker : Harolds Stones looking roughly East - you may just be able to spot the steeple of Trellech Church in the background! (2 comments)

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Harolds Stones submitted by Humbucker : Frosty afternoon by Harolds Stones - looking West to the setting sun.

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Harolds Stones submitted by Postman : Hold me up I'm going

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Harolds Stones submitted by Bladup : Harold's Stones.

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Harolds Stones submitted by rldixon : Harolds stone taken in infra red 15 july 2006

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Harolds Stones submitted by Thorgrim : The Three Stones which gave Trellech in Gwent its name stand in a field just outide the village. (SO5005) Possibly the entrance to a lost long barrow, the stones are sometimes called Harold's Stones marking a Saxon victory over the Britons, but they are much older than that. Nearby is a wonderful holy well and a preaching cross set upon an earlier mound. A very special place.

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Harolds Stones submitted by Horatio : Travelling through Trelech but sadly only my phone with me to get a picture of these lovely stones. They are in a 12 metre alignment with a possibly fourth stone being robbed away or destroyed in the late 18th century. The stones are of a conglomerate rock that's known as pudding stone. All the stones lean at different angles with the tallest being over 4 metres in height. As with many stone al...

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Harolds Stones submitted by juleslandau : Taken on St David’s Day 2020, beautiful spring light. This is a very enigmatic and endearing site.

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Harolds Stones submitted by SandyG : Detail from the sundial in the nearby church showing the three standing stones. This stone depicts other antiquities in the area and was carved for Lady Magdalen Probert in 1689.

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Harolds Stones submitted by SandyG : View from north east.

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Harolds Stones submitted by SandyG : View from south.

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Harolds Stones submitted by TheCaptain : Harolds Stones, 3rd July 2018. They are bigger than I remember them being - perhaps they have grown in this fine summer weather.

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Harolds Stones submitted by Postman : The road is just the other side of the fence

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Harolds Stones submitted by Bladup : Harold's Stones.

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Harolds Stones submitted by hamish : Just passing through Trelleck on my way back to Chepstow, had to stop and pay homage.

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Re: Harolds Stones by Anonymous on Thursday, 08 November 2018
Prof Howard MR Williams visits the stones and considers their connection with Harold:
https://howardwilliamsblog.wordpress.com/2018/11/06/harolds-stones-trellech/
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Re: Harolds Stones by sem on Saturday, 18 November 2017
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There are different folk tales involving the devil and Jack o'Kent playing quoits here. This is paraphrased from Roy Palmer's The Folklore of (old) Monmouthshire (Logaston Press 1998) - "And when he got there he began playing quoits ...... threw three stones as far as Trelleck .... and he threw another but that didn't quite go far enough and it lay on the Trelleck road .... when it was moved so as the field might be ploughed;" A possible memory of a removed standing stone?
Probably more interesting is the sundial in the local church. Dated to 1689, along with a carving of the three stones, it states "HIC FUIT VICTOR HARALDAS" (Here Harold was conqueror), a memory in South Wales of Harold Godwinsson's successful campaigns there in 1055, 1056 and 1063.
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Re: Harolds Stones by Anonymous on Saturday, 14 October 2017
But what were the covers for? LE5 is a Leicester postcode.
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Re: Harolds Stones by TheCaptain on Thursday, 05 October 2017
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Residents of Trellech woke up to a strange sight on Sunday morning (1st October 2017) when their historic standing stones took on a new look.

See article in Monmouthshire Beacon

"By 5pm, the wrapping had vanished, taken down by someone unknown".
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Re: Harolds Stones by sem on Wednesday, 31 May 2017
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OS grid ref (Coflein) SO49930514 [checked against SID]
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Re: Harolds Stones by Anonymous on Sunday, 15 February 2015
Measured on the 2 relevant OS maps, and making a correction for the difference between grid North & true N, a line from the stones to the summit of Skirrid (450m, and near Abergavenny) has a bearing of 307.5 degrees.



Using this calculator with a latitude of 51.7deg, http://jgiesen.de/SolsticeAzimuth/index.html



the direction of the midsummer sunrise around 2000BC was 310.9 degrees. These figures are close, but not really close enough. Some adjustment could be made for atmospheric refraction, and exactly how sunset is defined (the sun completely disappearing, or just touching the horizon), but these will not bring the figures into agreement. The apparent diameter of the sun is 1/2 deg, so a 3deg error will be clearly noticeable. I am not certain whether Skirrid is actually visible from the stones - though it should be, judging from the OS map, give or take local obstructions such as trees, etc. If it is visible a sighting of midsummer sunset from the site would be interesting. An estimate for present-day midsummer sunset is 309.9 deg which is about 2.5deg, or 5 solar diameters N of the summit of Skirrid.



The alignment of the stones themselves is said to be 72deg E of N, which is definitely not toward the midsummer sunrise or midwinter sunset. The former is at 50 deg, and the latter is the reciprocal (230deg). It seems to me that the question "what do the stones point to" is a vital one, apparently without an answer.
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    Re: Harolds Stones by Anonymous on Tuesday, 17 February 2015
    Further thoughts... My estimates might be slightly off, though I would not expect by more than 1 degree. But the ultimate test of this idea is to try to see it happen. If the alignment were correct historically, the midsummer sun would set about 2 diameters short of the summit nowadays. There would not seem to be any point in choosing a site which is slightly off; the sense of wonder that this alignment would evoke depends on it being exactly right, and there is no reason why it should not be if that is what is intended. How much error is needed before you discount the idea as merely a near-miss coincidence ? Not very much, I would say; 3 deg seems to be far too much.


    Here''s more ! Disciples of Alfred Watkins will love this .... A line from the stones to the river crossing at Usk (modern - but it doubtless has a history) has a reciprocal bearing of 71.5 deg (i.e. the bridge at Usk lies to the SW along a line indicated by the stones). The figure of 72 deg for the alignment of the stones comes from here: http://www.coflein.gov.uk/en/site/221159/details/HAROLD%27S+STONES%2C+TRELLECH%3BHAROLDS+STONES%3BHAROLD+STONES/

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      Re: Harolds Stones by Anonymous on Monday, 02 March 2015
      Here is some more: The reciprocal of the published 72 deg for the alignment of the 3 stones (namely 252 deg) corresponds to the setting azimuth, at the latitude of Trellech, of a celestial body having declination (i.e. angular position above or below the celestial equator) of -10.23deg, and according to A. Thom (Megalithic Sites in Britain, Clarendon Press, Oxford, 1967, pp 97-101), there are 4 other known sites with this alignment, all in Scotland. The azimuths are different because of the different latitudes, but the 5 declinations are all within 0.5deg of each other. Thom attributes the alignments to Antares - a first magnitude star visible during the summer months, south of the equator, and therefore never high in the sky in Britain. The declination would be correct for a period around 1880BC, but is different from the modern value (~ -26deg) because of the precession of the equinoxes. Significantly, the star would have been considerably higher in the sky at the earlier date, and therefore more noticeable. According to Thom, a celestial alignment of this type should have been made more accurate by the existence of a more distant outlying stone, or a distant feature on the horizon. Apparently there is historical evidence of a 4th stone at Trellech, but at present I do not know where it was supposed to have been. I am happier with this explanation than with the Usk alignment, since although both authors have proved to be controversial, Thom has generally survived better than Watkins. Although Thom''s idea about the megalithic yard has not found favour, no-one has doubted the reliability of his surveys. These putative alignments to the setting of Antares and to the midsummer sunset makes the Trelech site comparable with the 4-item alignment at Ballochroy, Kintyre, where a direct alignment is to midwinter sunset, and a sideways alignment is to midsummer sunset. This is illustrated on p 142 of Thom''s book. The equation relating declination to azimuth and latitude is given on p 17. g4oep
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Re: Harolds Stones by coldrum on Monday, 29 March 2010
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Re: Harolds Stones by coldrum on Saturday, 09 January 2010
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Coflein site entry.

http://www.coflein.gov.uk/en/site/221159/details/HAROLD%27S+STONES%2C+TRELLECH%3BHAROLDS+STONES%3BHAROLD+STONES/
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Re: Harolds Stones by AngieLake on Thursday, 16 November 2006
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"A c.40m diameter subrectangular ditched enclosure" (see coflein link above) was indicated by surveys in the area of the stones. I don't know what this really means, but if it was a rectangular stone-built construction, either smaller, and in the centre of a 40m diameter ditch, or the construction itself filled a 40m diameter - like a field - then the stones possibly could have been used in its construction? Perhaps there was something more 'special' about these three and they decided to save them?

I'll post the rather basic plan I made from my dowsing on the day. This is part of an on-going experiment to find out whether doing 'ritual movement' dowsing at megalithic sites can help find out any more about their original construction. (I ask to be 'shown' where the ancients moved during their most important ceremonies when the site was at its most important.)
You'll need to blow up the pic to fill the page as A5 (I tried this out) so you can read it, or maybe rotate it to print out an A4. All moves are numbered in sequence, and the different colour ink is used to help distinguish progressive sections.

The site slopes to NW approx, and I had no idea I would be taken in a circular movement when I started by 'Enter' at the right of the largest sloping stone. (Coming from a direction of 290 degs - behind me). At the 70 degree point on the arc the rods turned me towards the 'centre', moving in the direction of 220 degs. There were 3 tighter clockwise, followed by 3 tighter anticlockwise movements side-by-side at the centre, then I was taken in a wider anticlockwise circle around the tree. On the other side of it - approx SE near the tree - the rods moved me in another tighter triple anticlockwise swirl. Maybe this would have carried on with a matching clockwise swirl, (I often find this sort of mirror-image movement, the same pattern only reversed, each side of a stone) but I was tired then.

I'd also dowsed out from the 'centre' near the tree and found seven consecutive openings of the rods with the seventh by the remaining stones. I hardly ever do this these days but, when I first started dowsing, this was the normal result when dowsing from centre to edge of a circle.

Walking around the perimeter of the 'circle' twice was difficult because of the undergrowth, but in one pair of photos posted you can see the approx position of the East arc where my backpack is sitting. On the plan this arc is pencilled in.

I have much more complex plans than this one, but even basic ones like this are worth considering, just in case they can teach us something about a site. I am pretty laid-back about these findings, and only want to share my results. (Not trying to say I'm proving anything.)
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Re: Harolds Stones by templar on Thursday, 16 November 2006
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I tend towards the Captain's view. I think that interpreting the artifacts in Trellech into a full blown stone circle is difficult. I keep coming back to the "where are the stones problem". If the circle conformed to the general characteristics of other stone circles and had similar stones of similar sizes, I would expect to see more evidence of the other stones. If you consider the remaining stones as a part of a circle and follow the arc they would form, you are looking at a pretty big circle with many stones if they are spaced in a similar manner
I haven't seen any other stones in the village with similar characteristic to the three stones. The closest is the "druids altar" in the churchyard and this is a very different beast, being squared off and of a different material to the puddingstone.
If you take the example of Avebury, you can see that it was difficult to remove evidence of stones completely from a site and I believe that vestiges would remain of any major site.
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Re: Harolds Stones by TheCaptain on Thursday, 16 November 2006
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Intrigued by some recent theoies that Harold's Stones may have once been part of a stone circle, I went for a good look myself again this weekend.

I have to say that I would be extremely surprised if this site was once part of a circle, the landscape just looked all wrong to me. And surely there would have been some sort of historical record to suggest the matter, but considering that the village has been known as Trellech (three stones) for so long, I personally cannot believe it.

And finally, as for the three stones forming an arc, this is an illusion caused by the leaning of the stones. Looking along the line of the stones, if they were all standing upright, I reckon they are pretty much in a perfect straight line. See my recent picture.
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Re: Harolds Stones by AngieLake on Monday, 13 November 2006
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Thanks for that link Martyn.
What does 'subrectangular ditched enclosure' mean? I'd interpret that as an underlying outline of a building, (or, at that size, a small walled field?) surrounded by a ditch.
The geo-scan gave the size of 'c.40m. diameter', so does that mean there IS a *circular* ditched enclosure, (quote) 'in the vicinity' of the stones??
Hang on! - With a radius of 20m, approx. 60ft, I guess it isn't my 'circle' after all, as its radius was approximately 11 paces!
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Re: Harolds Stones by TheCaptain on Sunday, 12 November 2006
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Details of Harold's Stones from coflein can be found here
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Re: Harolds Stones by AngieLake on Tuesday, 27 June 2006
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Have I made a breakthrough here? Were these stones once part of a circle?

Templar's site information was a great help to me when I visited Trellech on 11 June. Luckily it was hot and sunny, and I had the site all to myself. After doing some sketching, surveying, and photography, I tried dowsing the stones. To my surprise I found that the two most southern stones may have formed part of a circle when first erected. The 'centre' of the 'circle' was just to the NW of a tree a little higher up the sloping field. (See twin photo). From this 'centre point' I dowsed seven concentric bands of energy radiating out, with the seventh in line with the stones. I then walked around the 'circumference', placing my backpack on its higher eastern arc, and photographing it (see twin photo) to get an idea of the scale of the 'circle'. The field slopes up gradually, so the view is looking down slightly on the existing stones. I also walked in from each stone to the 'centre', and found 11 paces from each of the southernmost stones, but 14 paces from the one near NE with a 'gun-sight'-style notch in its top. Walking around a couple more times to re-check the circumference I did wonder if this stone used to form part of the circle, but then was moved to create the alignment we see today. I didn't dowse for an original position for it, though I always try to find the original ritual movements and layout of sites at the height of their importance.

(The 'procession' entered to the right of the largest sloping stone, then followed around, just inside the circle's stones, to 70 degs, when it headed towards the centre. (220 degs direction). Here 3 anti- and 3 clock-wise movements took place by the 'centre', followed by a larger anticlockwise movement around the present tree, grounding in 3 anti-clockwise turns on the other side of the tree. It was rather overgrown with nettles, etc, there, so I didn't pursue it further. One could speculate that a stone or post once stood at the centre of the circle.

I haven't searched the net to see if anyone has ever excavated this site and come up with anything to bear out my findings, but I just wanted to put this on record. I keep all the plans from my site visits just in case they throw light on how the place was used. Obviously I cannot prove anything, but it is interesting to compare patterns and findings.
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Re: Harolds Stones by templar on Monday, 15 November 2004
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The best place to park is just south of the church and the Village Green pub. There's a small public car park. From there you can explore the whole of Trellech on foot. There is a map just over the road , which details all the notable sites in the village (Harold's Stones, The Virtuous Well, Tump Terret, The Church Sundial and the Cross in the churchyard)

The stones are supposed to have strange forcefields which have knocked people off their feet. The stones arrived in Trellech as a result of a contest of strength; Jack O Kent and the Devil threw the stones from Ysgyryd in the Black Mountains. A fourth stone, which landed short, was still standing in Trellech in the 18th century.

Tump Terret is either a Norman Motte or a prehistoric mound depending on who you read, personally I would say it was Norman.

Inside the church, there is an old sundial which depicts Harold's Stones on one of it's faces.

Outside in the graveyard, there is a pyramid of stones with a preaching cross on the top. Lying before the cross is a large stone bench, which is caled the Druid's Altar Stone.
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