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Rock ArtSite Name: Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings
Country: Scotland County: Dumfries and Galloway Type: Rock Art
Nearest Town: Port William
Map Ref: NX36264474  Landranger Map Number: 83
Latitude: 54.770799N  Longitude: 4.546935W
Condition:
5Perfect
4Almost Perfect
3Reasonable but with some damage
2Ruined but still recognisable as an ancient site
1Pretty much destroyed, possibly visible as crop marks
0No data.
-1Completely destroyed
 3 Ambience:
5Superb
4Good
3Ordinary
2Not Good
1Awful
0No data.
 4 Access:
5Can be driven to, probably with disabled access
4Short walk on a footpath
3Requiring a bit more of a walk
2A long walk
1In the middle of nowhere, a nightmare to find
0No data.
 4 Accuracy:
5co-ordinates taken by GPS or official recorded co-ordinates
4co-ordinates scaled from a detailed map
3co-ordinates scaled from a bad map
2co-ordinates of the nearest village
1co-ordinates of the nearest town
0no data
 5

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emerald visited on 20th Dec 2018 - their rating: Cond: 3 Amb: 4 Fabulous find. A bit of a search to find the farm, once there parking available for 50p and wander around the back of the farm to find the fenced off areas in a boggy fiel. Wellies a good idea. In the plantation also more concentric circles and through there a couple if fields away are standing stones, only 1 upright as 2 fallen

SandyG visited on 5th Sep 2017 - their rating: Cond: 3 Amb: 4 Access: 4 This site would be best visited in low bright light. I visited on a dull evening after days of torrential rain. The field in which the outcrops stand was really boggy in places and the art was flattened by the lighting conditions.

SolarMegalith visited on 8th Sep 2013 - their rating: Cond: 4 Amb: 4 Access: 4

h_fenton visited on 17th Sep 2010 - their rating: Cond: 3 Amb: 5 Access: 4 Visited this site in the morning with strong low sunlight which was fantastic for showing up the cup and ring marks. I stayed for a while as the sun rose, highlighting further cup and ring marks. Unfenced out in the field a short distance to the west of the main group a few more ring marks were visible where the grass has worn away. With the permission of the farmer, I flew my kite here to take some aerial photographs of the rock art. There were a couple of cows in the field but they were only mildly interested in what I was doing.

Richard13 visited on 1st Mar 2008 - their rating: Cond: 3 Amb: 3 Access: 4

Runemage visited on 1st Jan 2006 - their rating: Cond: 3 It's quite a walk from the parking area at the farm, not suitable for anyone with mobility problems. The largest easily-accessible outcrop with RA I've seen. There was a large herd of bullocks to walk through which some folks find intimidating.

DrewParsons kelpie have visited here

Average ratings for this site from all visit loggers: Condition: 3.17 Ambience: 4 Access: 4

Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings
Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings submitted by rockartuk : On a fenced outcrop, 200m South of the farm (NX 362 447), R.W.B. Morris counted 84 cup-and-rings (1979). This photo was taken in 1993 with the carvings still clear. However, in 2000 the marks turned very faint. Acid rain? The question of preservation (after about 5000 years!) is now actual as well as urgent. How? (Vote or comment on this photo)
Cup and Ring marks or other Rock Art in Dumfries and Galloway

On a fenced outcrop, 200m South of the farm (NX 362 447), R.W.B. Morris counted 84 cup-and-rings (1979). This photo was taken in 1993 with the carvings still clear. However, in 2000 the marks turned very faint. Acid rain? The question of preservation (after about 5000 years!) is now actual as well as urgent. How?

There are three entries for the Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Marked rocks on Canmore:
Centred around NX 36260 44739: Canmore ID 62751;
Located at NX 36280 44719: Canmore ID 62794;
and Located at NX 3619 4470: Canmore ID 62767.

The Journal of Antiquities also includes an entry for the Drumtroddan Carved Rocks, Port William, Dumfries And Galloway, Scotland. The JoA includes a photograph, a description and information about an alignment of three stones 400m to the east of the rock art panels (see nearby sites below). The Journal also includes a list of reference sources for more information.
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Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings
Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings submitted by h_fenton : Cups and rings showing up particularly well in the low morning light, some of the cups in the foreground might easily be missed if you visit the site under poorer lighting conditions. Some cups around the main grouping are hidden in shadow and did not appear until the sun had got higher in the sky. Outcrop 1 at Drumtroddan. 17 Septemeber 2010 @ 7.21am (Vote or comment on this photo)

Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings
Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings submitted by h_fenton : A Kite Aerial Photograph of the main outcrop at Drumtroddan, although the outcrop is larger and the rockart goes beyond the extent of this photograph I have cropped the picture to what was visible at this early time of day. 17 September 2010 @ 8.48am (2 comments - Vote or comment on this photo)

Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings
Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings submitted by h_fenton : An overview of the Drumtroddan cup and ring markings, with the outcrops labelled. Kite Aerial Photograph 17 September 2010 (1 comment - Vote or comment on this photo)

Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings
Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings submitted by h_fenton : Some cups and rings showing up particularly well in the morning light, Outcrop 1 at Drumtroddan. 17 Septemeber 2010 @ 7.12am (Vote or comment on this photo)

Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings
Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings submitted by h_fenton : Cup marks on a rock just to the north of the enclosure of 'outcrop 2' at Drumtroddan. 17 September 2010 @ 8.25am

Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings
Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings submitted by h_fenton : A spiral on outcrop 2 at Drumtroddan. 17 September 2010 @ 8am

Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings
Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings submitted by kelpie : Cup and ring marks on the Drumtroddan stones in Galloway

Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings
Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings submitted by Jimwithnoname : Drumtroddan cup and rings. These markings always remind me of rain drops in a pool.

Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings
Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings submitted by h_fenton : Some of the smaller cup and ring marks on the main outcrop (Outcrop 1) at Drumtroddan. (Infrared - 760nm filter) 17 September 2010

Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings
Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings submitted by postman : A really great site, in a great but under-valued part of Scotland.

Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings
Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings submitted by postman : Small stone in a big enclosure

Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings
Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings submitted by SolarMegalith : One of the motifs in the central group of carvings seen in the artificial lighting (photo taken on September 2013).

Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings
Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings submitted by h_fenton : There seems to be a fair amount of cups and rings on this piece of rock on Outcrop 1, but it seems to be worn or damaged and so it looks rather confused. This photo has been cropped from a kite aerial photograph. 17 September 2010 @ 7.46am

Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings
Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings submitted by h_fenton : A spiral on outcrop 2 at Drumtroddan. 17 September 2010 @ 8am

Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings
Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings submitted by h_fenton : The third outcrop at Drumtroddan. (Infrared - 760nm filter) 17 September 2010 @ 9.07am

Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings
Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings submitted by vicky : A large spiral on the third outcrop at Drumtroddan - see main site entry for further details.

Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings
Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings submitted by Antonine : 2008

Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings
Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings submitted by Antonine

Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings
Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings submitted by Antonine

Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings
Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings submitted by Antonine

Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings
Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings submitted by Antonine

Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings
Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings submitted by SandyG : Dull light does not do this site any favours.

Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings
Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings submitted by SandyG : Beautiful spiral. Shame about the light.

Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings
Drumtroddan Cup and Ring Markings submitted by Energyman : The centre of the three ring marks were aligned almost exactly N-S

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Re: Drumtroddan by MaccMan on Sunday, 22 October 2017
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I visited in 2012 and also found it very wet underfoot. The farmer gave me a lift up on his quad bike and told me that there are more rock marks beyond main fenced off area on rocks in the small wood. He said that the university used to clear them periodically but that this has not been done for some time. After looking at the main rock art I climbed over the wooden fence into wooded area but I found nothing.
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Re: Drumtroddan by Anonymous on Tuesday, 16 December 2003
A comment on the apparent disappearance - over 7 years - of the millennia-old markings! :)

The best time to go and see this feature is in the early hours of the morning, or in the evening, when the sun is very low.

This creates good contrast, and shadows, which brings out the 'grooves' wonderfully.

If the sun is too high, it creates a 'washed-out' effect, rendering the markings almost invisible.

The best I ever saw them was a cold, clear day (quite early) in January . . . . they looked awesome, and crystal clear.
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Re: Drumtroddan by Vicky on Tuesday, 29 October 2002
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There are three separate outrcrops, two in the main field and one to the rear of the field over a drystone wall (there are steps in the wall but these are hard to see until you get up close). Two standing stones can be seen in the distance.

The site is well signposted from the road with Historic Scotland signs and parking is available in the farmyard (a charge of 50p is made). Once in the farmyard, the signs seem to disappear - you need to go round the back of the farmhouse (following the track to the left of the main building) through the gate (take wellies if it is wet - there were large puddles everywhere when we went!) and up into the field.

The rock art is quite well preserved on the two outcrops in the field, but the one over the wall has weathered badly.
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