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Campaign to protect the Thornborough Henges environs Yorkshire (North)

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A campaign to protect the setting of ancient monuments near Bedale is underway. Thornborough henges - ancient earthworks - are said to be Yorkshire's rival to Stonehenge.

The Friends are incensed that the landscape setting of the largest complex of prehistoric earthworks in Britain is being destroyed by aggregates mining.

Tarmac Northern wants to extend the workings of its quarrying and has stressed that English Heritage would be consulted on protection and preservation of the henges.

Part of the restoration would attempt to return the area to the appearance which archaeologists believed it once had.

The monuments, which are older than Stonehenge, were once used for ceremonial purposes by people from all over the North and were part of a network of prehistoric monuments including other henges near Ripon and the Devil's Arrows at Boroughbridge.

"We need to harness people power to both save and enhance the setting of such amazing Stone Age henge temples," said Mr Lowry

Membership requests and donations to The Friends of Thornborough can be sent to Mr Lowry at 7 Beech Close, Snape, Bedale, DL8 2TP.

Source: The Darlington & Stockton Times 18/07/03


Note: Judicial Review of Thornborough Henges / Ladybridge Quarry proposals in London, 11th June, see latest comment
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Re: Thornborough Henges Judicial Review in London, 11th June by LINCOOK on Tuesday, 05 May 2009
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With you guys in spirit though we are having heartbreaking destruction here in West Cornwall in the name of Natural England and the National Trust. Maybe the credit crunch will bring a halt to all this senseless desperate scrabbling on the body of our Mother - bring it on!
Shanti, Lin
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Re: Thornborough Henges Judicial Review in London, 11th June by Anonymous on Monday, 04 May 2009
Merriment was had
Henges were alive
Mead was drunk
and Green Men were dancing

Please help to protect this sacred landscape by attending the above review meeting in London on June 11th

Joy to all tribes
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Re: Thornborough Henges Judicial Review in London, 11th June by Anonymous on Thursday, 30 April 2009
Calling the Brigantes Nation and all British tribes. We shall raise an army on Sunday and show Tarmac how much we care about these sacred temples by celebrating Beltane within their glorious confines. Please attend if you can - the more people the better.

Happy Beltane to one and all
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Re: Thornborough Henges Judicial Review in London, 11th June by Anonymous on Thursday, 30 April 2009
Beltane celebration this Sunday (3rd May) noon onwards. Lots and lots of green men and women . . .

Come and discuss the proposals with people that care.
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Thornborough Henges Judicial Review in London, 11th June by Andy B on Wednesday, 29 April 2009
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Venutius writes:

There will be a Judicial Review of the decision by the County Council to grant permission for mineral extraction at Ladybridge. For members of the public wishing to attend, the court has fixed the hearing for the rolled up JR for Thursday, 11 June, estimated at one and a half days. The hearing will be at the High Court in the Royal Courts of Justice on the Strand in London. The exact time will not be known until the day before, but hearings usually start at 10 or 10:30am.

The grounds are likely to hinge around the County Council’s failure to take account of the cumulative loss of the landscape setting of the henges and landscape character in general.

Documents indicate that Members of the Planning Committee were not afforded the opportunity of seeing evidence that the landscape had been assessed as being of good character and in good condition and that the after-use of the quarry would not be beneficial to wildlife and the landscape’s character. A plan to prevent military bird strike which was available prior to the planning meeting in August 2009 was not shown to Members. The plan involves the ‘controlling’ of flocking birds by all means, including shooting. If the plan is implemented it will result in a steep sided deep water pit lake.

Instead, Members were led to believe that the existing landscape was poor and the after-use would outweigh any detrimental effects to the landscape.

Campaigners believe that the above, added to the already significant known negative impacts would have caused the council planners to reject the application to quarry at Ladybridge Farm, site of a Neolithic settlement and claimed to be part of a wider archeological context for Yorkshires mighty Thornborough Henges.
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Re: Urgent action called over Thornborough by Anonymous on Thursday, 31 July 2008
One day, if the rings still exist, people will come to visit them just as they do to the pyramids and stonehenge. It has been suggested that the three main pyramids are aligned with Orions Belt in the constellation of the great bear and their origin [not necessarily the construction of the present buildings] can thereby be dated to a far earlier time. Cannot Thornborough Rings be treated to a similar dating process to hopefully bring it home to thepeople who merely seek profit from the present desicration the history and importance of them?
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Re: Urgent action called over Thornborough by Anonymous on Thursday, 01 May 2008
Focus now swings to Beltane and we shall be ready to make our voices and hearts heard at these mighty ur temples. Much discussion and planning will occur this weekend as tribes unite for Beltane blessings. Please help in any way you can to protect this sacred area. There really is nowhere else like it on earth. Be strong
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Urgent action called over Thornborough by Andy B on Tuesday, 11 March 2008
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Urgent action called over Thornborough

Heritage campaign group TimeWatch have called for urgent action over
Thornborough Henges.

Following the recent news that planning permission to quarry Ladybridge Farm
has been overturned following a legal challenge by campaign group Friends of
Thornborough.

TimeWatch believe that recent archaeological discoveries within the
application area mean it would be impossible for the council to grant the
planning application when it is reviewed at a council meeting in Masham on
April 22nd, so long as significant numbers of the public show they value the
archaeology and wish to see it protected.

“The original application was thrown out because it threatened nationally
important archaeology. The second application was only granted because the
planning committee believed the revised site plan avoided any of the
archaeology” Said TimeWatch Chairman George Chaplin. “But since the
application was granted, Tarmac have found Neolithic...

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Re: 'Henge quarry plans thrown into disarray' by Andy B on Saturday, 08 March 2008
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Forum post from Venutius repeated here as it's important:

I'm getting increasingly excited about this, because I think there is now a chink in the armour.

Tarmac persuaded EH, NYCC and others that no further nationally important archaeology would be found on the revised quarry site. They agreed with Tarmac that during the Neolithic that area would be under water. As a result, permission was granted.

Tarmac have however now proven that assumption to be false. If you check out the site diary for Ladybridge (if you find the right one) you will see that at the end of last year Tarmac started the pre-quarrying archaeology and started discovering Neolithic settlement pits. Tarmac's archaeologists do not appear to be too impressed with our neolithic remains, but none the less, it was the presence of those pits that got the original application refused and caused Tarmac to provide the revised plan. The work has now stopped, hopefully too late for this not to be regarded as a...

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Re: 'Henge quarry plans thrown into disarray' by Anonymous on Friday, 07 March 2008
All hail the Brigantes nation - keep fighting folks as this sounds very promising. I have a good feeling about this, having been devastated about the original decision. Looking forward to Beltane when I shall 'Green Man' it once again. Polishing my antlers already!

Much love to all tribes involved with Thornborough from all tribes involved with the Nine Ladies.

They shall not take us alive . . .
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'Henge quarry plans thrown into disarray' by Andy B on Thursday, 06 March 2008
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Venutius spotted this:

Plans for a controversial quarry extension near an ancient monument site have been thrown into disarray following a legal challenge.

Tarmac Northern won planning permission in January last year from North Yorkshire County Council to extract 1.1 million tonnes of sand and gravel over eight years from land at Ladybridge Farm, between Bedale and Ripon, half a mile from the nearest of three Bronze Age earthwork henges on Thornborough Moor.

Tarmac said the unanimous decision would ensure the future of 15 full-time quarry workers and 40 hauliers at the neighbouring Nosterfield quarry, where reserves are almost exhausted.

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The henges, described as the Stonehenge of the North, have legal protection as a scheduled ancient monument, but worried campaigners who organised a 10,000-name petition said that their surroundings, including Ladybridge, must be protected from the effects of further quarrying.

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Thornborough Henges - Last Chance by TimPrevett on Wednesday, 10 January 2007
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webmaster at ANCIENTEUROPE.INFO writes:

"As many of you are aware, following Tarmac Northern Ltd's failed application to quarry Ladybridge, a site within the ritual landscape of the Thornborough Henges last year, a revised planning application has been filed, and this is due to be determined by North Yorkshire's planning committee on the 16th January at 10am, Masham Town Hall.

The Council Officers recommendations to the planning committee have been published, and they have recommended approval of the revised application, meaning the quarrying of Thornboroughs landscape is now highly likely to continue.

Furthermore, a total of four areas at Thornborough have been proposed as preferred areas for quarrying in future, by two quarry companies, Tarmac Northern and Hanson. I suggest that if the application for Ladybridge is granted, then Thornborough will become a preferred area for quarrying, meaning that future planning applications will be far more difficult to defend against.

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Thornborough Henges - Last Chance by TimPrevett on Wednesday, 10 January 2007
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press at heritageaction.org writes yesterday:

"I've just had a call from the local press to say that North Yorkshire Council Officers will be recommending that Tarmac's application to quarry the ritual landscape of Thornborough Henges - Ladybridge, should be allowed to proceed.

This means that it is now highly likely that the council planning
committee will grant Tarmac's application to quarry the site. This
will continue the destruction of the landscape surrounding
Thornborough, yet many people believe that it was this landscape
itself that was the reason why Thornborough became so important.

Whilst these days I seem unable to be angry about anything, It does
make me sad. Thornborough is a statement of belief in humanity, god and our planet and the continued quarrying of the area will serve as yet another reminder to us that collectively, it is our earnest desire to destroy our planet and ultimately ourselves.

By wiping away the landscape of Thornborough, we are...

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Re: Campaign to protect Thornborough henges is stepped up by coldrum on Thursday, 06 July 2006
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Tarmac appeal Thornborough Quarry decision

5th July 2006

Tarmac Northern Ltd, the firm quarrying the Thornborough Neolithic
monument complex has announced that it has lodged an appeal regarding
its rejected bid to extend quarrying within the ancient site.

The application, to extract sand and gravel from an area on
Thornborough Moor known as Ladybridge Farm was rejected by council
planners in February because the site contains nationally important
archaeology that planning guidelines protect against such activities.

Tarmac, who have been quarrying the Thornborough Complex for ten years
or so have shown dogmatic determination to continue quarrying in the
Thornborough Complex, destroying what English Heritage describe as a
site of "World Heritage class", "the most important ancient site
between Stonehenge and the Orkneys" and this latest move comes as no
surprise to pro-heritage campaign group TimeWatch.

"There's massive amounts of gravel all over North Yorkshire...

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Re: Campaign to protect Thornborough henges is stepped up by Anonymous on Thursday, 19 January 2006
I Love this place with all my heart.
It is truly magical and unlike any other spot on the planet.
How can anyone possibly want to disrupt it?
Money - that is the answer.
Our combined will can be stronger than the lure of money.
All it takes is for people to take action.
Get up and get heard or gradually lose all of what makes us what we are.
Contact Friends of the Thornborough Henges and see how you can help.
Write to everybody above to voice your displeasure.
Create interest and education about the glorious henges.
Use your short time on this planet to make a difference that will last for thousands of years.

We can change this - we just need to believe it and act.

Think hard and act fast my friends
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Re: Campaign to protect Thornborough henges is stepped up by Anonymous on Wednesday, 18 January 2006
i think these type of significant archaeological monuements should definatley be saved . it will give us a better understanding of the neolithic era and can help us understan the wider lanscape .i feel strongly that we should protect any type of archaeological site or artefact .
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Re: Save the henges, says new petitions by Anonymous on Sunday, 03 July 2005
Protesters to deluge council over quarry

PROTESTERS fighting a quarry plan near an ancient Yorkshire monument are to hit a council with the biggest number of objections in its history.

Campaign groups Timewatch and the Friends of Thornborough Henges have been campaigning for more than a year against Tarmac's scheme at Ladybridge Farm, Nosterfield, near Ripon.
The group claims the quarrying would disturb a site that could be crucial to history but has yet to be examined by archaeologists.
Tarmac insists it has no intention of damaging the site and its application is for land almost a mile from the nearest monument or henge.
Timewatch will hand 1,500 letters of objection and a petition on Monday that will carry more than 10,000 signatures to North Yorkshire County Council planning chiefs.
The response will be the largest number of objections the council has ever received to a single application.
Timewatch chairman George Chaplin said: "Our response shows that the application...

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Save the henges, says new petitions by Andy B on Sunday, 26 June 2005
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THOUSANDS more people have put their names to a campaign to protect an important Neolithic site known as the "Stonehenge of the North".

The Friends of Thornborough Henges, the pressure group set up to fight for the preservation of the earthworks near Ripon, have submitted two new petitions to North Yorkshire Council in support of their case, and are demanding an end to open-cast quarrying around the ancient monument.

Tarmac is in dispute with local campaigners, who say its extraction of sand and gravel from land around the henges – which are 5,500 years old – is destroying their setting.
One petition, compiled digitally, contains almost 5,500 signatures, collected from all over the world via the group's website –
http://www.friendsofthornborough.org.uk

The second is a conventional paper petition signed by more than 2,000 residents of North Yorkshire, as well as the entire archaeology department of Nottinghamshire Council.
It says: "The internationally important...

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Re: Protesters dig in to beat sand and gravel plan by Anonymous on Monday, 20 June 2005
The Planning application for Ladybridge will be reviewed by NYCC on July 19th. Ladybridge, the site of a Neolithic Settlement within a few meters of the largest collection of such remains ever discovered in the norht of england (but quarried with far lass than 50% of the archaeology being recorded) sits firmly within the archaeology zone of the Thornborough Henges and is a site doubly rare due to the savage affects of quarrying already carried out in the area.

This is a nationally important site within an internationally important complex. If you have not already sent a letter of objection and signed the petition please do to now!

http://www.timewatch.org
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Re: Protesters dig in to beat sand and gravel plan by Vicky on Friday, 11 June 2004
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The latest news on Thornborough from Nidderdale Today:

Historic henges new warning

A QUARRY firm has been warned it has a fight on its hands over plans to extend its operations next to an ancient site of national importance.

Campaigners this week pledged to step up their fight to protect the unique triple henge complex at Thornborough, near Bedale, after it was revealed that quarry operators had submitted a planning application to extract more sand and gravel nearby
National campaign group, Heritage Action has formed a small sub-group to look at the issues surrounding the neolithic site and to support local action group, the Friends of Thornborough, in their fight against further quarrying

The Friends have been building up support for the last year, and now Heritage Action are urging more people nationwide to back their cause - and protest against the planning application by quarry company Tarmac Northern Ltd.

Tarmac has just submitted proposals to North Yorkshire...

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Protesters dig in to beat sand and gravel plan by Anonymous on Tuesday, 08 June 2004
Brian Dooks writes in the Yorkshire Post:

A CONTROVERSIAL application has been submitted to quarry another 111 acres
of land close to an ancient monument regarded as the "Stonehenge of the
North" – even though English Heritage is known to be strongly opposed.

Tarmac Northern wants to extract sand and gravel from Ladybridge Farm at
Nosterfield, near Ripon, which is within a mile of the Thornborough Henges –
three 5,500-year-old ancient monuments, which form part of a sacred
landscape across North Yorkshire.

Vale of York MP Anne McIntosh is now expected to ask the Deputy Prime
Minister John Prescott to call in the application for his own determination,
which would involve a public inquiry into the need to extract the sand and
gravel and its effect on the setting of Thornborough Henges.
The latest proposal does not include Thornborough Moor, surrounding the
henges, which Tarmac has previously indicated it intends asking North
Yorkshire County Council to include in a...

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Planning application for Ladybridge Farm - Submitted by Andy B on Sunday, 06 June 2004
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THE FRIENDS OF THORNBOROUGH
~ Protecting, Preserving and Enhancing Our Cultural Landscape

NEWS RELEASE
For immediate release, 4/6/04

TARMAC TO SACRIFICE HERITAGE FOR PROFITS

This is a sad day for the Thornborough Henges Complex, which English Heritage has called “the most important prehistoric site between Stonehenge and the Orkneys”. Already half the setting of the only triple henge complex in the world has been destroyed by open-cast quarrying and, now, despite being made fully aware of its national significance, Tarmac has applied to quarry yet more of this sensitive landscape at Ladybridge Farm.

The management of Tarmac Northern attended a recent conference at which eminent archaeologists emphasised that, in order to understand this unique henge complex, it is vital to study in depth the landscapes in which they are set ~ and that what remains at Thornborough is a minimum sample that ought to be protected for future research and public enjoyment.

Employing their...

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Re: Henge Friends 'shocked' over site ownership by Anonymous on Thursday, 13 May 2004
The home page for the Friends of Thornborough site is now located at www.friendsofthornborough.org.uk
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Henge Friends 'shocked' over site ownership by Vicky on Friday, 02 April 2004
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An article from The Yorkshire Post 02/04/2004

CAMPAIGNERS fighting to preserve significant archaeological remains in Yorkshire have questioned the site's management after discovering part is owned by a construction group which quarries nearby.
Julie Hemmings

Archaeologists say Thornborough Henges, near Ripon, is one of Britain's most important Neolithic sites and a pressure group – the Friends of Thornborough Henges – has been formed to head the campaign to protect the area from quarrying. The Friends warn plans to extend nearby sand and gravel workings would ruin the prehistoric landscape surrounding the three banked and ditched circular enclosures.
The scheduled ancient monuments themselves are protected but campaigners fear plans by Tarmac Northern to extend aggregate workings at Nosterfield will devastate the henges' setting.

At the latest meeting of a forum set up by North Yorkshire Council to discuss the future of the area, the Friends say they were shocked to...

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    Re: Henge Friends 'shocked' over site ownership by Anonymous on Saturday, 03 July 2004
    this is a g-r-ate website
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Re: Letter from John Hinchcliffe, English Heritage by Anonymous on Wednesday, 05 November 2003
LETTER OF JOHN HINCHLIFFE, ENGLISH HERITAGE
Written to Andis Kaulins, source:
http://radio.weblogs.com/0129472/

Dear Andis

Thank you for your message of 1 September concerning Thornborough Henges in North Yorkshire. Our Chief Executive Dr Simon Thurley has asked me to respond to your query.

As monuments of national importance all three of the Thornborough henges, the associated cursus and adjoining landscape are designated as Scheduled Ancient Monuments. Scheduling, or designation, allows the Government, with advice from English Heritage, to give legal protection to nationally important sites and monuments. The Secretary of State must be notified of any works which might affect a Scheduled Ancient Monument, and will not usually give consent for works which may damage or disturb the site. The henges can therefore be regarded as fully protected and not under threat.

The current mineral extractions at Thornborough, which are outside the scheduled monument area, are the...

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Re: Campaign to protect henges is stepped up by Andy B on Sunday, 28 September 2003
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Strangely enough, there's a good recent report on Thortnborough
here.
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Re: Campaign to protect henges is stepped up by Andy B on Friday, 05 September 2003
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Here's a Second 24 Hour Museum article
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Re: Campaign to protect henges is stepped up by Anonymous on Wednesday, 03 September 2003
EXPERTS VOICE FEARS OVER GRAVEL EXTRACTION AT UNIQUE HENGE SITE

A spokesperson for Tarmac, which is already quarrying in areas around the henges, told the 24 Hour Museum there are two potential planning applications for the surrounding area under discussion.

More: 24 Hour Museum.
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Re: Campaign to protect henges is stepped up by Anonymous on Tuesday, 02 September 2003
Hi Mark,

This is George Chaplin. Sorry I did not step in to correct you earlier. Yes,
no planning application has been received. The article in the Ripon Gazette you
quoted actually stated that Anglo American, Tarmac's parent company had
confirmed to the Friends of Thornborough that the planning application was
to be submitted soon.



Yes, there have been some carefully chosen words. The question asked
yesterday was - "has there been any proposals for quarrying?" The answer was
given - "There are currently no planning applications for, and not even any
discussions about, quarrying around the middle and southern henges."

The answer should have been - "Yes there is a proposal which looks at the
possibility of quarrying close to both of these henges".

I'll say no more.
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Re: Campaign to protect henges is stepped up by Anonymous on Tuesday, 02 September 2003
Dear George,

I thought I would step in, after what I saw last week, and was
horrified by what is both proposed, and the utter failure of the local
curators to stop it - indeed the posting on Britarch of what the county
archaeologist was claiming was extraordinary. Jan tells me he has
hardly visited the site, and really seems to be belittling everything
that is claimed. I saw the ripon gazette stuff, and was doing this from
memory - thanks for the url.

Have a look at the BBC discussion board (Talk archaeology) for some
anonomous rants about the proposals. We have quite a fan club here, and
when the programme goes out, we might help with the odd million
signatures on the petition.

Meanwhile, if there is anything I can do to help. We are up again in
Ripon next week, filming a programme about monks - by chance.

Dr Mark Horton
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Re: Campaign to protect henges is stepped up by Andy B on Tuesday, 02 September 2003
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Here's the reply from one of the Friends of Thornborough:

Speaking as a Friend of Thornborough, I was concerned about Mr Campling’s
response to the question about the proposed quarrying at the Thornborough
Henges on the SMR discussion list.

The question was asked - "I have received the attached e-mail, and I must
say it seems beyond belief that there could really be extensive quarrying
and landfill proposals in such an important archaeological landscape.

Is this really correct?"

Mr Campling, in his response seemed to indicate that this was an incorrect
statement.

That is simply not true. There are currently two proposals by Tarmac to
expand quarrying in the Thornborough area. One of which is entitled
Thornborough Moor and if anyone cares to look at a map they will find that
is the field which holds the central henge and cursus.

In the Yorkshire Post 27/11/02 there was an article with the headline
"Winning quarry wants to expand". This article identified that...

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Re: Campaign to protect henges is stepped up by Anonymous on Tuesday, 02 September 2003
This monument complex and the threats posed to it are going to be one of the major
conservation issues of the future, and as I have just spent a week at the henges with
the excavators (Jan Harding and team, from Newcastle Univ.) making a programme
for BBC2 Time Flyers 2, my thoughts as an outsider might be of interest. I must add
that these are not those of the BBC (nor of course will we cover the conservation
issues in the programme).

The first point is that Thornborough is important in national terms - the three main
henges are contemporary and part of a single scheme, and with their double ditches
etc. make them the single largest earthmoving operation in early prehistory (back of
the envelope calculations suggest that it is larger than Avebury and Silbury). They
are remarkable (especially from the air!!).

There are also a site where the astroarchaeology is potentially significant. We deal
with this in our programme, but the important point is that certain celestial...

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Re: Campaign to protect henges is stepped up by Anonymous on Monday, 01 September 2003
Here's a response from the County Archaeologist responsibe for Thornbourough.

The Thornborough Henges are not under threat. They are a Scheduled
ancient Monument. The "sacred plateau", which is a construct of a few
local individual's imagination, is also not under threat. The idea of
lakes around the middle and southern henges is a "red herring" put
forward by one or two people who are opposed to wetland conservation and
shooting rights. There are currently no planning applications for, and
not even any discussions about, quarrying around the middle and southern
henges. The last quarrying permission was granted in 1994 and the
closest it comes to the northern henge is 330m. The quarry in which
landfill has occurred was worked in the 1960's, and the landfill
operation was granted some 20 years ago, and is a response to try and
get back to a more normal landscape (rather than a great open void).

The "Friends of Thornborough" web site is full of inaccuracies,
misre...

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Re: Campaign to protect henges is stepped up by Anonymous on Tuesday, 26 August 2003
The triple henge complex at Thornborough, North Yorkshire is under imediate threat from quarrying. See - http://www.friendsofthornborough.org
You can help prevent prevent these activities from destroying any further archaeology by signing our petition at:

http://www.petitiononline.com/Pet10001/petition.html
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