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<< Our Photo Pages >> Penmyarth - Standing Stone (Menhir) in Wales in Powys

Submitted by Johnny on Monday, 23 September 2002  Page Views: 18355

Neolithic and Bronze AgeSite Name: Penmyarth Alternative Name: The Fish Stone
Country: Wales County: Powys Type: Standing Stone (Menhir)
Nearest Town: Brecon  Nearest Village: Llangynidr
Map Ref: SO18291986  Landranger Map Number: 161
Latitude: 51.871305N  Longitude: 3.188221W
Condition:
5Perfect
4Almost Perfect
3Reasonable but with some damage
2Ruined but still recognisable as an ancient site
1Pretty much destroyed, possibly visible as crop marks
0No data.
-1Completely destroyed
 4 Ambience:
5Superb
4Good
3Ordinary
2Not Good
1Awful
0No data.
 4 Access:
5Can be driven to, probably with disabled access
4Short walk on a footpath
3Requiring a bit more of a walk
2A long walk
1In the middle of nowhere, a nightmare to find
0No data.
 2 Accuracy:
5co-ordinates taken by GPS or official recorded co-ordinates
4co-ordinates scaled from a detailed map
3co-ordinates scaled from a bad map
2co-ordinates of the nearest village
1co-ordinates of the nearest town
0no data
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NickyD visited on 1st Jun 2014 - their rating: Cond: 5 Amb: 5 Access: 1

cerrig visited on 6th Dec 2010 - their rating: Cond: 5 Amb: 4 Access: 3 A Megalith truly worthy of the name. Reputedly the tallest stone in South Wales. It's in superb condition, and in a lovely setting too . Stood within feet of the river Usk, and surrounded by mature woodland and all sorts of wildlife, all within the grounds of the Glanusk Estate. Permission is needed to visit , and being an active working country estate it is best to get this beforehand.

Penbron have visited here

Average ratings for this site from all visit loggers: Condition: 5 Ambience: 4.5 Access: 2

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Penmyarth submitted by cerrig : This shape is why it's called " The Fish stone". Looking East. (Vote or comment on this photo)
Marked on maps as standing stone but within the private land of the Glanusk estate. This stunning stone is comparable in height with the nearby Llwyn-y-Fedwen stone (4.27m, cf). In shape it is said to resemble an upright fish, hence an alternative name for this site of the "Fish Stone".

Note: This site is on private land - permission must be sought from the estate to visit.
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Penmyarth submitted by cerrig : The fish stone, looking West, in it's own private meadow. (Vote or comment on this photo)

Penmyarth Fish Stone
Penmyarth Fish Stone submitted by virtualuser : The stunning Penmyarth Fish stone is the tallest standing stone is wales (4.27m) Situated on the private Glanusk Estate. Permission needed to visit this site (Vote or comment on this photo)

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Penmyarth submitted by Postman : Dragged down by the stone. (Vote or comment on this photo)

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Penmyarth submitted by cerrig : Looking South. (Vote or comment on this photo)

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Penmyarth submitted by cerrig : Looking West. (Vote or comment on this photo)

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Penmyarth submitted by Penbron : Penmyarth aka The Fishstone proudly struts on the banks of the River Usk.

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Penmyarth submitted by Penbron : On the bank of the River Usk

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Penmyarth submitted by Postman : Tallest stone in Wales ?

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Penmyarth submitted by Postman : The Fish stone.

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Penmyarth submitted by ainsloch : The wonderful fish stone, which could almost have leaped from the nearby river to its current position

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Penmyarth submitted by cerrig : Looking North, showing it's slender width of about 18 inches at the base.

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Penmyarth submitted by cerrig : Looking South East, towards the nearby river Usk.

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Penmyarth submitted by Johnny : Penmyarth Standing Stone, Powys (SO 183 199): More popularly known as the Fish Stone.

Penmyarth
Penmyarth submitted by Johnny : Penmyarth Standing Stone, Powys (SO 183 199): Marked on maps as standing stone but within the private land of the Glanusk estate. This stunning stone is comparable in height with the nearby Llwyn-y-Fedwen stone (4.27m, cf). In shape it is said to resemble an upright fish, hence an alternative name for this site of the "Fish Stone".

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Penmyarth submitted by g4oep : This small stone is in the graveyard of the small church near the Penmyarth fishstone. Does anyone know anything about it ?

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Penmyarth submitted by g4oep : May 2016 (2 comments)

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Penmyarth submitted by Postman : First one to spot the ,oh wait, there it is.

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Penmyarth submitted by NickyD : In the distance....so near yet so far! Image copyright: stonesearcher, hosted on Flickr and displayed under the terms of their API.

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Penmyarth submitted by NickyD : Second attempt to find this stone but well worth it - it''s a beautiful shape and in lovely surroundings. Image copyright: stonesearcher, hosted on Flickr and displayed under the terms of their API.

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Penmyarth submitted by Bladup : Penmyarth [The Fish Stone].

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Penmyarth submitted by Bladup

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Re: Penmyarth by g4oep on Thursday, 26 May 2016
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I have written a web-page in which I argue that the Fishstone marks an equinoctial sunset alignment. I have not seen this idea mentioned anywhere else, though it might have been discussed before. Look here if you are interested in this idea.

http://g4oep.netii.net/fishstone/Fishstone.html
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Re: Penmyarth by g4oep on Monday, 23 May 2016
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The hill in the background is Tor y Foel 551m. The alignment to the stone is 4deg south of West. Making allowance for the angle of altitude of the hill, and the precession of the equinoxes, viewed from the stone, the sun would set on the peak on the evening of the spring or autumn equinox around 1800BC. The angular error is a fraction of a degree. This is therefore a convincing calendrical alignment. Despite the comment below, I do not doubt that the stone is in fact an authentic bronze age megalith. The Coflein page referenced below merely states that the stone may have been used as be a mediaeval boundary marker, which is not to say that it was erected during the mediaeval period. Curious how comments become changed in the recounting ("Coflein describes it as mediaeval.") There are many examples of mediaeval documents which describe boundaries in terms of pre-existing or natural features - rivers, trees, roads, etc. There is no reason why the stone could not be a genuine megalith which was later used as a boundary mark, so I would presume it to be genuine until proven otherwise by documentary evidence that it was erected during the historical period.
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Re: Penmyarth by SumDoood on Monday, 18 April 2016
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Coflein describles it as medieval: http://bit.ly/1Vy3WGu
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    Re: Penmyarth by Andy B on Tuesday, 19 April 2016
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    Interesting - thanks - that's a dilemma as to whether to reclassify it as a 'Modern stone' in terms of our categories - which doesn't make much sense either. I think I'll leave it as it is...
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    Re: Penmyarth by g4oep on Friday, 20 May 2016
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    That's interesting. Pity it cannot be more definite about it. I visited the stone recently and wondered whether it had been set up by the Victorian millionaire who developed the estate.

    Does anyone know anything about the much smaller stone in the SE corner of the graveyard of the nearby mortuary chapel ? This has the appearance of a small standing stone, but could simply be a grave marker, or someone's frivolity. There is also a recumbent stone in front of the chapel.
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Re: Penmyarth by cerrig on Tuesday, 07 December 2010
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My time with the " Fish stone" was all too short. I could happily have stayed here much longer but it was getting dark. A return visit is on my list . As LAS says it's well worth the trouble of getting permission to see it, but go earlier in the day.
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Re: Penmyarth by LAS on Friday, 27 August 2004
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I have had the privilage of meeting the "Fish Stone". It is set in a peaceful meadow close to a river. A wonderful, tranquil place, well worth writing for permission to visit.
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