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<< Our Photo Pages >> Moel Goedog W - Ring Cairn in Wales in Gwynedd

Submitted by w650marion on Friday, 13 July 2018  Page Views: 16685

Site WatchSite Name: Moel Goedog W Alternative Name: Fonllech
Country: Wales County: Gwynedd Type: Ring Cairn
Nearest Town: Porthmadog  Nearest Village: Harlech
Map Ref: SH6100332456  Landranger Map Number: 124
Latitude: 52.871571N  Longitude: 4.066552W
Condition:
5Perfect
4Almost Perfect
3Reasonable but with some damage
2Ruined but still recognisable as an ancient site
1Pretty much destroyed, possibly visible as crop marks
0No data.
-1Completely destroyed
 4 Ambience:
5Superb
4Good
3Ordinary
2Not Good
1Awful
0No data.
 5 Access:
5Can be driven to, probably with disabled access
4Short walk on a footpath
3Requiring a bit more of a walk
2A long walk
1In the middle of nowhere, a nightmare to find
0No data.
 3 Accuracy:
5co-ordinates taken by GPS or official recorded co-ordinates
4co-ordinates scaled from a detailed map
3co-ordinates scaled from a bad map
2co-ordinates of the nearest village
1co-ordinates of the nearest town
0no data
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Catrinm visited on 18th Apr 2019 - their rating: Cond: 3 Amb: 5 Access: 3 A beautiful spot - hope that damage was reported last year!

SandyG visited on 31st Aug 2018 - their rating: Cond: 3 Amb: 4 Access: 3 Recent ploughing up to the edge of the cairn has spoiled its ambience which would otherwise be superb.

w650marion PAB have visited here

Average ratings for this site from all visit loggers: Condition: 3 Ambience: 4.5 Access: 3

Moel Goedog W
Moel Goedog W submitted by w650marion : Just visited this favourite circle of mine and I was so sad to see that the plough has been taken so close to it. This is a comparison of this year's visit to last year's visit . (Vote or comment on this photo)
Ring Cairn on the slopes of Moel Goedog, Marion writes: I just visited this favourite circle of mine and I was so sad to see that the plough has been taken so close to it. This is a comparison of this year's visit to last year's visit .

"A circle of originally 12 upright stones, up to 1.0m high, 6.5-7.0m in diameter: excavation, 1978, showed that the stones were set in a low stone bank & enclosed a complex of pits, three of which contained BA urns, two, including the primary feature, containing a cremation deposit assemblages: a second, superficially similar feature lies some 44m to the west."

Update October 2019: This is the western terminal cairn of the Fonllech Stone Row, featured on the Stone Rows of Great Britain website. The SRoGB entry includes a description, a plan of the row and its terminal cairns, photographs of the alignment, its individual stones and its terminal cairns, plus access information and links to other online resources for more information.

Note: Rather too close ploughing at Moel Goedog W cairn circle - surely this is going into the scheduled area? More photos on our main page.
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Moel Goedog W submitted by MartinBurke : A view looking towards Portmeirion. [Ed Note: this is a scan from a 120 film and has been accidentally left-right mirrored] (1 comment - Vote or comment on this photo)

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Moel Goedog W submitted by pab : Moel Goedog Circle General view looking north along track to show circle's position. (Vote or comment on this photo)

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Moel Goedog W submitted by PaulM : The Moel Goedog West stone circle located at SH610324 to the west of the right of way that winds up past the mountain of Moel Goedog. (Vote or comment on this photo)

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Moel Goedog W submitted by SandyG : View from north. (Vote or comment on this photo)

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Moel Goedog W submitted by w650marion : Yes, this is Moel Geodog East circle in the foreground, but Moel Geodog West circle is visible right of centre just above the large recumbent stone. What this photo actually shows is the extent of the work in Moel Geodog West field. A red digger is just visible on the track behind the piled clearance stones on the right hand side of the picture. (Vote or comment on this photo)

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Moel Goedog W submitted by pab : Moel Goedog Circle General view looking north.

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Moel Goedog W submitted by Justfrank : The views are great,The walk was good the cairns are not far apart

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Moel Goedog W submitted by w650marion : One of the urns found at Moel Goedog W is now on display at Bangor Storiel Museum http://collections.storiel.cymru/ During the original firing it must have cracked, so two holes were drilled through it, to enable a chord to be inserted to secure the side.

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Moel Goedog W submitted by SandyG : View from east.

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Moel Goedog W submitted by SandyG : View from south. (4 comments)

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Moel Goedog W submitted by SandyG : View from east.

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Moel Goedog W submitted by w650marion : The plough has been taken close to the cairn circle

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Moel Goedog W submitted by w650marion : The plough has been very close this year. The young crop appears to be ?beet but sheep are present, eating it.

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Moel Goedog W submitted by Postman : In the ring

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Moel Goedog W submitted by Postman : Looking up to the fort and the other circle

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Moel Goedog W submitted by Postman : Nice fence

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Moel Goedog W submitted by Postman : Yes

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Moel Goedog W submitted by Postman : There's lovely isn't it.

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Moel Goedog W submitted by Postman : Moel y Gest across Tremadoc bay

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Moel Goedog W submitted by Bladup : Moel Goedog West.

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Moel Goedog W submitted by Bladup : Moel Goedog West.

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Moel Goedog W submitted by postman : a great little ring cairn.

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Moel Goedog W submitted by postman : Not your run of the mill stone circle (1 comment)

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Moel Goedog W submitted by pab : Moel Goedog Circle General view looking south - looking down to Harlech.

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 50m ESE 107° Moel Goedog E* Ring Cairn (SH61053244)
 177m SSW 199° Moel Goedog 5* Standing Stone (Menhir) (SH60943229)
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 317m SSW 199° Moel Goedog 4* Standing Stone (Menhir) (SH60893216)
 353m SSW 211° Moel Goedog 3* Standing Stone (Menhir) (SH60813216)
 370m E 80° Moel Goedog Hillfort* Hillfort (SH61373251)
 374m WSW 249° Erw Wen* Ancient Village or Settlement (SH60653233)
 508m SSW 213° Moel Goedog 2* Standing Stone (Menhir) (SH60713204)
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 971m SW 214° Moel Goedog 6* Standing Stone (Menhir) (SH60433167)
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 1.4km SW 215° Moel Goedog 7* Standing Stone (Menhir) (SH60133130)
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Re: Moel Goedog W by w650marion on Saturday, 09 November 2019
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One of the urns found here is now on display at Bangor Storiel Museum http://collections.storiel.cymru/
It is fascinating, as it has cracked during the original firing, so two holes have been drilled to enable a chord to be inserted to secure the side. There is also a video about Moel Goedog W, narrated by archaeologist Frances Lynch describing the excavation and the urns.
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Re: Moel Goedog W by w650marion on Thursday, 12 July 2018
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This year's visit to Moel Geodog West surprised (shocked?) me as it appears the plough has been taken very, very close to the stones. A lot of new clearance work has been done in this field. A digger is visible on the far side of the field and stones have been piled up, in the centre in a line, and a pile at the back. I don't know if this clearance arrangement is new or not, but there is a young crop growing now, not the usual grass. It's possibly sugar beet - but the sheep are currently eating it. Reading the older comments here, it appears this lovely cairn circle has a history of damage. I've just referred to my copy of "A guide to Ancient and Historic Wales - Gwynedd" by Frances Lynch. There is a good bit of information about this cairn on page 49 and the cut away diagram shows the cairn extending almost 3 meters outside the uprights. I think the plough has been closer than that.
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    Re: Moel Goedog W by Andy B on Friday, 13 July 2018
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    Hello Marion, thanks for the extra info - would you mind reporting this to RCAHMW with links to your photos - judging by the comments below there have been issues before at this site: https://rcahmw.gov.uk/about-us/contact-us/
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      Re: Moel Goedog W by w650marion on Wednesday, 18 July 2018
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      Hi Andy, I have reported this as you asked, using your link. I've put in links to to my photos on the M Portal and will let you know the response. Many thanks for the advice.
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Re: Moel Goedog W by PAB on Wednesday, 20 June 2012
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This is awful news - the circle was a delight. This is not the first time an ancient structure has been knowingly destroyed by farmers in Gwynedd. A concerted effort is obviously needed - including perhaps the Farmers Union of Wales who have a county network and might be helpful in reminding their members of responsibilities etc. Not the only route to follow - but one not to be overlooked perhaps.

In the meantime, I will post the pictures I took of this circle last September (while staying ironically enough at a farm just along the lane....).

The point of posting them is for there to be a readily accessible record of how they looked - I will be posting more photos than I would just for a site visit etc, but hope they might be useful for Portal Members and others in the area to use to get this put right... If anyone wants better resolution versions or my full set, please send me a PM..

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    Re: Moel Goedog W by Martin_L on Wednesday, 20 June 2012
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    As far as I understand with my poor English the initial comment does not mention any damage of the circle itself except for the addition of a stone?
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      Re: Moel Goedog W by PAB on Wednesday, 20 June 2012
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      Martin - your grasp of what was said was much sharper than mine - perhaps having to read the English slowly might have been a better approach for me to take before thinking that the whole circle had been cleared!

      I think I will call the local farmer tomorrow to let him know of the concerns - I happen to have his number, and it might be easier than one of his neighbours doing it...I will read the original post more carefully before doing so though...

      I wonder if Portal member Talsarnau_Times has seen the string - I will PM him in case..he knows the area very well..
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Re: Moel Goedog W by Anonymous on Wednesday, 20 June 2012
Not sure who to contact so help. Have been using the portal to plan walks to ancient sites. On 17th June went up to Moel Goedig above Harlech. The field below the Hill Fort has been destroyed by the farmer. The grass has been poisoned and all the stones of any size have been arranged in a 21century cairn in the middle of the field.

The cairn circle although left has been removed from the 2000bc landscape and a boulder of several tons tipped on one corner of the circle clearly out of context making a welsh recumbent circle! A standing stones stands forelornly in the bottom corner in the mud. The field to the west is as yet untouched but could be next. I was very upset by the destruction of part of an ancient landscape- can anyone do anything?
Tim
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    Re: Moel Goedog W by Andy B on Wednesday, 20 June 2012
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    Hello Tim, this sounds awful - I've passed your message on to the RCAHMW here http://www.rcahmw.gov.uk/HI/ENG/About+Us/Contact+Us/ but if anyone else has any more ideas let us know
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    Re: Moel Goedog W by Andy B on Monday, 02 July 2012
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    Tim has sent the following update: After several emails and a telephone call a member of the Gwynedd Archeological Trust has visited the site and I have been told by a member of CADW that they will be visiting the site this week and discussing matters with the owner.

    They will not be able to give me more details - presumably legal action may be in the line.
    Thank you for pointing me in the right direction.
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