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Natural PlacesSite Name: Grimes Puddingstone Alternative Name: Grime's Puddingstone
Country: England County: Norfolk Type: Marker Stone
Nearest Town: Thetford
Map Ref: TL8172389589
Latitude: 52.473976N  Longitude: 0.674163E
Condition:
5Perfect
4Almost Perfect
3Reasonable but with some damage
2Ruined but still recognisable as an ancient site
1Pretty much destroyed, possibly visible as crop marks
0No data.
-1Completely destroyed
 no data Ambience:
5Superb
4Good
3Ordinary
2Not Good
1Awful
0No data.
 3 Access:
5Can be driven to, probably with disabled access
4Short walk on a footpath
3Requiring a bit more of a walk
2A long walk
1In the middle of nowhere, a nightmare to find
0No data.
 1 Accuracy:
5co-ordinates taken by GPS or official recorded co-ordinates
4co-ordinates scaled from a detailed map
3co-ordinates scaled from a bad map
2co-ordinates of the nearest village
1co-ordinates of the nearest town
0no data
 3

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Grimes Puddingstone
Grimes Puddingstone submitted by Dodomad : Dr Rudge’ photo of the Grimes puddingstone. This stone is now buried in bracken (or worse). (Vote or comment on this photo)
Mound and stone outside the boundary fence of Grime's Graves. Site No. 1 - the beginning of Dr Rudge's Puddingstone Trail. This stone is now buried in bracken (or worse).

Page originally by Thorgrim. Read more about Willowman's attempts to rediscover this stone in the comments below and more about Rudge's puddingstone trail here: http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=2146412012 Also plot them on the map here: http://www.megalithic.co.uk/search.php?query=puddingstone

Note: I went looking for this stone whilst up at Grime's Graves last week, more on this page and in the comments
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Grimes Puddingstone
Grimes Puddingstone submitted by Andy B : This is what you're up against in rediscovering this stone - thick bracken and shrubs. (Vote or comment on this photo)

Grimes Puddingstone
Grimes Puddingstone submitted by Andy B : Down in the marl pit there is a lot of flint. (Vote or comment on this photo)

Grimes Puddingstone
Grimes Puddingstone submitted by Andy B : The marl pit in which the stone apparently resides is here, just outside the Grime's Graves fenceline. (Vote or comment on this photo)

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Nearby Images from Geograph Britain and Ireland:
TL8189 : Pony at Grimes Graves by bren
by bren
©2013(licence)
TL8189 : Infilled Flint Mine by Ashley Dace
by Ashley Dace
©2010(licence)
TL8189 : South down grassy track by David Pashley
by David Pashley
©2019(licence)
TL8189 : Edge of The Brecks at Grimes Graves by Penny Mayes
by Penny Mayes
©2012(licence)
TL8189 : View North Towards Grime's Graves by David Pashley
by David Pashley
©2019(licence)

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 212m N 356° Grime's Graves Flint Mines* Ancient Mine, Quarry or other Industry (TL817898)
 1.4km WNW 293° Grimes Graves Barrows* Round Barrow(s) (TL804901)
 3.0km SE 132° Blood Hill* Round Barrow(s) (TL84078765)
 3.3km WSW 247° Pepper Hill* Round Barrow(s) (TL787882)
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 6.5km SW 227° White Hill, Suffolk* Round Barrow(s) (TL77168497)
 8.2km SE 144° Thetford Puddingstones* Marker Stone (TL8684583181)
 8.4km SSE 149° Thetford Barrow Round Barrow(s) (TL86358256)
 8.9km SE 142° Thetford Castle* Hillfort (TL875828)
 9.6km E 101° East Wretham Heath Earthwork* Misc. Earthwork (TL91278814)
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 11.9km SE 136° Seven Hills Barrow Cemetery Barrow Cemetery (TL904814)
 11.9km ESE 104° Peddars Way* Ancient Trackway (TL9341287119)
 12.1km SSE 147° Barnham Heath Pit Natural Stone / Erratic / Other Natural Feature (TL887797)
 12.3km NE 41° Merton Stone* Natural Stone / Erratic / Other Natural Feature (TL895991)
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 14.5km E 94° Larling Heath Tumulus Round Barrow(s) (TL96268912)
 14.7km N 354° St Mary’s Chapel, Cockley Cley* Ancient Temple (TF79550411)
 14.8km N 356° Cockley Cley Iceni Village* Museum (TF802043)
 15.3km S 173° Traveller's Hill* Round Barrow(s) (TL842745)
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Re: Grimes Puddingstone by Andy B on Saturday, 04 May 2024
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More photos and videos here:
www.flickr.com/photos/48002663@N00/albums/72177720316706199/
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Puddingstone Trail papers by Dr Rudge in Essex Naturalist Vol.29 by Andy B on Tuesday, 30 April 2024
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Links to the articles by Dr Rudge
Essex Naturalist Vol.29
17-31, 370-371 The conglomerate track. Rudge, E. A. & E. L.
http://www.essexfieldclub.org.uk/portal.php/p/Archive/s/030/o/0017
and the associated photo:
http://www.essexfieldclub.org.uk/portal.php/p/Archive/s/030/o/0371

178-186, 374 The Statistical Evidence for a Conglomerate Alignment in Essex. Rudge, E. A.
http://www.essexfieldclub.org.uk/portal.php/p/Archive/s/030/o/0178

256-258 Further observations on the conglomerate track. Rudge, E. A.
http://www.essexfieldclub.org.uk/portal.php/p/Archive/s/030/o/0256
(He was dead serious about this!)

See also, not online: Rudge and John Cooper (Ed), The Lost Trackway from Grimes Graves to Stonehenge (Puddingstone Study group, 1995).
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Re: Grimes Puddingstone by willowman1 on Thursday, 06 October 2016
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If anyone is remotely interested, I've continued my search for Rudge's Grimes Graves conglomerate boulder. After my first visit in May, I contacted the Forestry Commission in case there would be any problem with me revisiting the clay pit and clearing it using simple hand tools. Their response was basically that, as it is on FC land, they would need to get me covered by the insurance of a local conservation group.

Hearing nothing from them since, I went back to the pit last Monday, Oct. 3rd, but without tools, only a set of ground-probing steel rods. These were a waste of time however, as virtually the entire pit has been colonised by dense bracken, taller than me. I tried trampling and tearing a path by hand, but it was impossible. I couldn't even re-locate the 'carstone' that I'd found last time. As the bracken will only get worse, it's highly unlikely that I'll try again. Especially since I found out afterwards that bracken is a prime habitat for the ticks that can carry Lyme disease! So, for now at least, the puddingstone here will have to remain hidden.
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    Re: Grimes Puddingstone by Andy B on Thursday, 06 October 2016
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    Thanks for the update Mike, at least you tried.
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    Re: Grimes Puddingstone by limestonepavement on Sunday, 14 October 2018
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    Mike your efforts are much appreciated. I suspect many intrepid explorers have fallen foul of the infected tick population in Thetford Forest. FC should eradicate the reservoir (Mainly muntjac) but despite creating the problem they take no responsibility. Winter months have lower risk but no period is safe.
    If I spot the carrstone 'erratic' as I pass sometime I'll add a note. ( Essex Journal photo shows a quarried stone showing no evidence of glacial transport?) Ditto any puddingstone (not pictured with the carrstone?).
    Evidence seems very weak. I'd like to see a modern photo with GPS data. Jon
    P.S. Forestry Commission bring carrstone down to Breckland and crush it to use as a track surface.
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Re: Grimes Puddingstone by willowman1 on Saturday, 28 May 2016
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The old clay (or marl) pit where this stone was located is at TL8172389589, just outside and about 30m east of the gate at the southern end of the Grime's Graves fenced area. The stone certainly did exist. There is a photograph of it in the 'Essex Naturalist' Vol.29, p.371 (which can be seen here: https://www.essexfieldclub.org.uk/portal.php/p/Archive/s/030/o/0371 ). Also, it was noted in the Grime's Graves excavation report of 1915, in the 'Proceedings of the Prehistoric Society of East Anglia'.

However, what Rudge conveniently failed to mention is that there was another, larger, boulder of Lincolnshire carstone in the same pit, that was also mentioned in the report. This was the 'erratic' on the excavation site plan that originally alerted Rudge to the possibility of a 'marker' stone on his Track here.

On May 9th I spent over an hour rooting around this pit, and managed to find only the non-pebbly carstone erratic, the visible part of which measures 74cm x 45cm x 15cm high. Of Rudge's 'flinty conglomerate' there was no sign, but the place is badly overgrown with nettles, gorse and dead bracken. I hope to return later this year with tools in an attempt to clear the area and find Rudge's stone.
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Re: Grimes Puddingstone by limestonepavement on Wednesday, 21 April 2010
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Living within walking distance of G.G.'s I've poked about for this stone with no result. The only ancient mound is the 'Danish' Grimshoe just inside the site. The exact G.R. bears no apparent evidence. Did Rudge invent it ? Has the Forestry destroyed it? Has it been moved? Am I in the wrong place? Would like to document this trail if it is worthwhile. Any advice appreciated.
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