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<< Our Photo Pages >> Holme II - Timber Circle in England in Norfolk

Submitted by bec-zog on Sunday, 16 April 2023  Page Views: 49759

Neolithic and Bronze AgeSite Name: Holme II Alternative Name: Seahenge II, Holme 2, Seahenge 2
Country: England County: Norfolk Type: Timber Circle
Nearest Town: Hunstanton  Nearest Village: Holme-next-the-sea
Map Ref: TF712453
Latitude: 52.977703N  Longitude: 0.548415E
Condition:
5Perfect
4Almost Perfect
3Reasonable but with some damage
2Ruined but still recognisable as an ancient site
1Pretty much destroyed, possibly visible as crop marks
0No data.
-1Completely destroyed
 2 Ambience:
5Superb
4Good
3Ordinary
2Not Good
1Awful
0No data.
 4 Access:
5Can be driven to, probably with disabled access
4Short walk on a footpath
3Requiring a bit more of a walk
2A long walk
1In the middle of nowhere, a nightmare to find
0No data.
 1 Accuracy:
5co-ordinates taken by GPS or official recorded co-ordinates
4co-ordinates scaled from a detailed map
3co-ordinates scaled from a bad map
2co-ordinates of the nearest village
1co-ordinates of the nearest town
0no data
 3

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Holme II
Holme II submitted by dodomad : This is what remains of Holme II in 2023: Tom writes: After reading Seahenge by Francis Pryor I finally got to Holme Beach on a low tide. Stunning. Photo by Tom Charlton @TomCharlton25 on Twitter (Vote or comment on this photo)
This is the other timber circle still on Home beach, not the original Seahenge which is in Lynn Museum. This one is being gradually washed away. It could be what remains of a burial mound and has been radiocarbon dated to 2049BC, the time of Seahenge, There are also various other Bronze Age features to be found on the beach, see the other photos for more. Top photo by Tom Charlton @TomCharlton25 on Twitter, used with permission.

We first published images in 2004, and it was seen again in June 2013 minus the two central logs. Latest images from 2023.
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Holme II submitted by bec-zog : HOLME next the Sea : Bronze age timber circle ~TF 752453 (4 comments - Vote or comment on this photo)

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Holme II submitted by SteveK : Holme II (3 comments - Vote or comment on this photo)

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Holme II submitted by SteveK : Holme II (1 comment - Vote or comment on this photo)

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Holme II submitted by bec-zog : Holme IIa. The, now lost, Bronze Age timbers @ Holme Next the Sea (Vote or comment on this photo)

Holme II
Holme II submitted by dodomad : This is what remains of Holme II in 2023: Tom writes: After reading Seahenge by Francis Pryor I finally got to Holme Beach on a low tide. Stunning. Photo by Tom Charlton @TomCharlton25 on Twitter

Holme II
Holme II submitted by bec-zog : HOLME next the Sea : submerged Bronze age timber trackway(s) associated with the Timber Circles ~TF 752453. (5 comments)

Holme II
Holme II submitted by bec-zog : HOLME next the Sea : submerged Bronze age timber trackway(s) associated with Timber Circle ~TF 752453. (1 comment)

Holme II
Holme II submitted by bec-zog : HOLME next the Sea : Bronze age timber circle ~TF 752453

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Holme II submitted by bec-zog (2 comments)

Holme II
Holme II submitted by bec-zog : Bronze age timber circle ~TF 752453 (2 comments)

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Holme II submitted by bec-zog : HOLME : Bronze age timber circle ~TF 712 453 (3 comments)

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Holme II submitted by bec-zog : Holme: Bronze age timber circle (1 comment)

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Holme II submitted by AndrewS : Holme II as seen July 2014. Eastern side of circle visible, no sign of the west side.

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Holme II submitted by bec-zog : Holme IIa. The, now lost, Bronze Age timbers @ Holme Next the Sea

Holme II
Holme II submitted by bec-zog : Holme IIa. The, now lost, Bronze Age timbers @ Holme Next the Sea

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Holme II submitted by cat_murphy : You can just about make out a few of the timber posts, but they are well-eroded now. Physically, it reminds me a little of the salt marsh it started out as, although you can tell it is now part of the beach. (3 comments)

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Holme II submitted by cat_murphy : This almost looks like something from a futuristic sci-fi film, but you can make out something that looks like a hole. Nothing else. It was a very hot day and the tide was out.

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Holme II submitted by Andy B : Evidence of the recent damage to this site. This photo was taken in March 2004. You will note that one of the 2 central logs had been washed away whilst the other had been dislodged. This is the way the original Seahenge would have gone had it been left in situ.

Holme II
Holme II submitted by bec-zog : Bronze age timber circle ~TF 752453 (1 comment)

Holme II
Holme II submitted by bec-zog : HOLME next the Sea : Bronze age timber circle ~TF 752453 (2 comments)

Holme II
Holme II submitted by bec-zog : Bronze age timber circle ~ TF712 453

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Timber Monuments and Coastal Processes: Archaeological Remains at Holme Beach by Andy B on Tuesday, 19 July 2016
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Timber Monuments and Coastal Processes: Recording and Monitoring of Archaeological Remains at Holme Beach, Norfolk, UK 2003–2008 by David Robertson & John Ames

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DOI:10.1080/14732971.2015.1112594

Between 2003 and 2008 an archaeological walkover and monitoring survey recorded forty-one archaeological features on Holme Beach, including an Early Bronze Age timber circle, at least one Bronze Age trackway and Anglo-Saxon fishweirs. Coastal processes were seen to affect the features in a range of ways, including initial exposure, greater exposure over time, scouring, loss of timbers, retreat of peat beds and dune faces and concealment by sand. Regular, intensive and detailed monitoring ensured the variable and somewhat unpredictable nature of coastal processes was recorded, with variations identified over time and by location.

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14732971.2015.1112594
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Second timber circle on Holme beach radiocarbon dated to 2049BC, the time of Seahenge by Andy B on Wednesday, 02 July 2014
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Archaeologists are about to go public with the results of tests which have dated a wooden structure found at Holme, near Hunstanton, to 2049BC.

The revelation is certain to spark fresh debate about why ancient people built the mysterious oak circles, during the early Bronze Age.

“The felling date on them is the spring or early summer of 2049BC, those trees were felled at exactly the same time,” said David Robertson, historic environment officer with Norfolk County Council.

“Having one was fantastic, having two adds to the story. We have to try and understand not just why they were built but what were they used for.”

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http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/norfolk_delivers_another_major_archaeological_discovery_experts_reveal_second_timber_circle_dates_back_to_the_time_of_seahenge_1_3664863
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    Re: Second timber circle on Holme beach radiocarbon dated to 2049BC, the time of Seah by Andy B on Wednesday, 02 July 2014
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    This is odd because we published a news item in August 2004 saying "Archaeologists have finally gone on record and confirmed that a second timber circle found within yards of Seahenge was even older. Carbon dating shows it dates back to 2400BC – more than three centuries before Bronze Age people overturned a giant tree stump and surrounded it with a ring of oak posts, for reasons we have yet to fathom."

    But that one was apparently 'within yards' whereas this Holme 2 is 4km away, a location given by our local contact bec-zog. Is this a third circle or is our location wrong?

    http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=2146411777
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Re: Holme II by Anonymous on Monday, 26 March 2012
This is the remains of a wooden dolmen type structure within a circle?
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    Re: Holme II by Andy B on Monday, 26 March 2012
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    That sort of thing - but more ceremonial than burial I'd have thought. Holme I (Seahenge) had an upended tree stump in the centre - see the nearby sites list
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Re: Holme II by airmyn on Friday, 21 May 2010
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Are there any specific names for either of these circles at Holme. Is there any evidence of them being called Scotteninge or Hengestamord.
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    Re: Holme II by Andy B on Friday, 21 May 2010
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    Hello, no, not as far as we know, and given these photos are 5 years old we don't know if these sites are still intact.
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      Re: Holme II by Andy B on Tuesday, 02 November 2010
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      airmyun adds: A set of sailing directions from 1190 AD refers to:
      Then in the land of St Edmund is a port suitable for large ships that is called Scotteninge.
      It lies between King’s Lynn and Blakeney.
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