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Multi-periodSite Name: Gelliwig Alternative Name: Llys Arthur, Arthur's Court, Gelliweg, Celliwig, KelliwicCountry: Wales
NOTE: This site is 1.132 km away from the location you searched for.
County: Gwynedd Type: Ancient Palace
Map Ref: SH252299
Latitude: 52.838175N Longitude: 4.596578W
Condition:
| 5 | Perfect |
| 4 | Almost Perfect |
| 3 | Reasonable but with some damage |
| 2 | Ruined but still recognisable as an ancient site |
| 1 | Pretty much destroyed, possibly visible as crop marks |
| 0 | No data. |
| -1 | Completely destroyed |
| 5 | Superb |
| 4 | Good |
| 3 | Ordinary |
| 2 | Not Good |
| 1 | Awful |
| 0 | No data. |
| 5 | Can be driven to, probably with disabled access |
| 4 | Short walk on a footpath |
| 3 | Requiring a bit more of a walk |
| 2 | A long walk |
| 1 | In the middle of nowhere, a nightmare to find |
| 0 | No data. |
| 5 | co-ordinates taken by GPS or official recorded co-ordinates |
| 4 | co-ordinates scaled from a detailed map |
| 3 | co-ordinates scaled from a bad map |
| 2 | co-ordinates of the nearest village |
| 1 | co-ordinates of the nearest town |
| 0 | no data |
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This is the site argued by Steve Blake and Scott Llyod in their books on the historical Arthur to be the possible site of Arthur's court (llys). The Welsh never called Arthur a king until after the English turned him into one and their conclusions are that Arthur was simply the leader of a warband on the Llyn Peninsula serving under King Maelgwyn of Gwynedd, in the late 5th or early 6th century.
According to legend, Ireland's Wicklow Mountains could be seen from Arthur's court. It is not possible to see the Wicklow Mountains from anywhere on the Cornish coast. But the mountains can be seen from the Llyn Peninsula, although Mr Blake admits they can also be viewed from Pembrokeshire.
"You can see the Wicklow Mountains from Pembrokeshire on a very, very good day. But there is absolutely no supporting evidence from the early material [for Pembrokeshire as the seat of Arthur's court]."
The Gelliweg they refer to isn’t a town or a village but actually two buildings: Gelliweg Farm and Plas Gelliweg. ‘Gelli’ in modern Welsh means ‘grove’. There is no modern Welsh ‘weg’ (as far as I know), although ‘wig’ could come from ‘gwig’ meaning ‘wood’. (In Old German it means ‘way’, but that’s highly unlikely). I wondered about it coming form the Irish, the Llyn Peninsula being named after the men of Lienster who colonized it, but Gaelic has no ‘w’ in its alphabet.
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