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Submitted by Arjessa on Wednesday, 19 April 2006  Page Views: 36658

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Worlebury camp submitted by Arjessa : Worlebury hill-fort, Weston-super-Mare, North Somerset. (In reference to article, "The Origins of the Dobunni"). (Vote or comment on this photo)
The Dobunni Tribe of the North Somerset/Gloucestershire region were originally of Iberian descent, coming from the Bell Beaker people of Spain and Portugal. They are also known to have travelled to Brittany, where a tribe known as the Coriosolites existed.

It is my belief that some of this tribe may have sailed to the coastline of Somerset, thereby beginning the Dobunni. Indeed, the Dobunni are understood to have traded with the Coriosolites of ancient Amorica (Brittany), and the fact that the name of 'Corio' appears on some of the early Dobunnic coinage may be more than a mere coincidence. I should like to suggest that this is in fact stating the origins of the tribe itself. It may well be that the chief of that time did perhaps take the name of Corio from the name of their forefathers as a mark of respect, or as a way of remembering their ancestors.

While this group of Iberians had landed at Brittany and Somerset, further groups set sail towards Ireland and other parts of Southern England and Europe.

This brings us to the tribal name of 'Dobunni', the meaning of which has never been explained. The spelling of the name 'Dobunni' can no doubt be ascribed to the Roman Latinisation as to the pronunciation of the word. Now, if one was to sound each syllable out, then convert the same sound into the Irish Gaelic spelling, we get the following;

'DUBH' pronounced "Doo" which means, dark or black-haired.

'BUNAITHE' "Boo-Nee" = established OR
'BUNAICH' "Boo-Nee" = establish, found, set (up), start. OR POSSIBLY,
'BUNADH' "Boo-Na" = people, inhabitants AND
'BUNAIOCH' "Boo-Na' = primitive

Putting this simply, the name 'Dobunni' means literally, either (The) 'DARK-HAIRED (ONES) ESTABLISHED (THIS PLACE)' or perhaps just (The) 'DARK-HAIRED PEOPLE'.

Such a tribe would have stood out against the fair-haired Celts who came along later. Indeed, one only has to look at the dark-haired Spanish and Portuguese, together with many of the Irish and long term residents of Somerset who still retain the dark hair of the Dobunni to see the connection.

Meanwhile, the Iberian connection to the Dobunni is further supported by the Beaker pottery sherds and vessels unearthed, and in the style of hill-forts which they left behind, in particular those at Worlebury and Dolebury which use stone in construction of the ramparts. Similar types of hill-forts which use stone for their defences can be found in Spain and Portugal, and with some of likewise construction also to be found in Ireland.

Further to the meaning of the Dobunni name, I believe it is quite possible that the language of the Dobunni may well have been closer to the Irish Gaelic than to the Brythonic Welsh supposedly spoken by the Celtic/British Tribes. No doubt an amalgamation of these languages could have occurred over the centuries. The original Gaulish spoken on the continent became extinct during the onset of Christianity and the eventual changeover to Latin.

With the arrival of the Celtic tribes, there were bound to have been a few inter-tribal marriages between the Dobunni and the Celts once peace was established, or perhaps as a means of establishing peace between one or more of the Belgic groups. However, I believe that the Dobunni remained essentially 'THE DARK-HAIRED PEOPLE'.

BIBLIOGRAPHY:
1908: "Earthworks of England", Allcroft, A H MacMillan & Co Limited, London.
1977: "The Bell Beaker Cultures of Spain and Portugal", Harrison, Richard J; Havard Univ., Cambridge, Mass.
1980: "Worlebury, The story of the Iron Age hill-fort at Weston-super-Mare", Woodspring Museum.
1998: "Wroxeter, Life & Death of a Roman City", White, Roger & Barker, Philip, Tempus Limited, Gloucs.
1999: "Irish Dictionary", Harper Collins, G.B.
1999: "Irish First Names", Harper Collins, G.B.

FOOTNOTE: This paper was first printed in the CBA South-West Journal No. 8, Winter 2002, as member's contribution.

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Re: Brittany and Portugal by Anonymous on Tuesday, 08 October 2024
Hello Everyone. Would someone be kind enough to help point me in a good direction or share some information to help in my journey? I have recently found out, through one of the DNA sites available out there, that I have DNA ties to ancient Dobunni burial sites. I have always been greatly interested in exploring my past and ancestors, but this is a connection further back than I ever expected. I noticed some on here have commented about having their DNA checked and confirmed? I would like to do this as well. Any advice? Thank you in advance!
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Re: Brittany and Portugal by Anonymous on Friday, 24 May 2024
I plugged my families Y into SNP tracker and I must say the migration is very interesting as I guess my surnamed family stems from the Dobunni. It pretty much aligns with the southern France bell beaker (almost into Iberia) who shot up to Brittany theory. Then into Britain, into the Dobunni territory. My family ended up in Jersey (channel island) where also the largest Celtic stash of coins was discovered. It really is totally plausible the Dobunni were connected to CeltIberian culture
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    Re: Brittany and Portugal by Anonymous on Friday, 24 May 2024
    Also we are dark haired lol
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Re: The Origins of the Dobunni - 'The Dark-haired people'? by Anonymous on Sunday, 15 October 2023
I would post my proof if I knew how to use code. I do not. But I am on TikTok under Speaks Truth.
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Re: The Origins of the Dobunni - 'The Dark-haired people'? by Anonymous on Sunday, 15 October 2023
I am 43% Celtic Dobunni . From proto age to now. I had my DNA done twice. I am extremely fair skinned with medium blonde hair with red hues. We still exist. I am researching my Ancestors. I think you should dig deeper in your research.
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    Re: The Origins of the Dobunni - 'The Dark-haired people'? by Anonymous on Monday, 23 December 2024
    Same! Strongly connected to the Dobunni tribe through DNA. My family (Father’s side) remained in the area until the late 1780’s.
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Re: Brittany and Portugal by Anonymous on Monday, 28 December 2020
There's some overcooking of the goose going on here. Keep it simple and scientific and let's not get carried away with wild theories.
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Re: Brittany and Portugal, and Ancient Space Ship People by Anonymous on Thursday, 09 April 2020
The Dobunni came to Britain in space ships to teach everyone in Britain how to make funny hats in order that the subtle energies could be harnessed and the evil sorcerers of the Belgae banished into the swirling portals of dread located at present day Bicester. Dobunni actually means ''We Who Are The Overlords of Grong Beggel''. The elves told me, honestly.
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Re: Brittany and Portugal by Anonymous on Saturday, 08 June 2019
If you go to West Kennet, Avebury or really any part of the same landmass in Wiltshire you will not find soil that is traditionally considered suitable for agriculture.
What you will find is; historical evidence of murdered Dobunni hostage telepaths and the largest megalithic infrastructure in the world.

Extrapolating this evidence, it is more than likely that the Dobunni were conquered by some other local tribe who killed their 'sorcerers'. Unfortunately, this also meant that the planet lost some of the last remaining hominids capable of harnessing subtle energies for agrarian abundance.

Also, this Irish Gaelic approach isn't necessarily valid. There's no particular reason to believe that the tribes fought by Claudius spoke anything even approximating Irish Gaelic which is actually Norse in origin anyway. The tribes of Pictavia certainly didn't leave much evidence of using Scots Gaelic and by everything mentioned, the Dobunni would be far more likely to speak a Brythonic...

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Brittany and Portugal by Anonymous on Tuesday, 21 February 2017
Surely the dark complexions pf the Iberian peninsula come from the Moors?
Pre Moorish Spanish descendants are generally not dark complexioned.
Even most of the ex colonist families in for example, Mexico are fair skinned.
My grandparents were born near the Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire which means
I most likely have some Dobunni blood in my veins.

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    Re: Brittany and Portugal by Arjessa on Monday, 15 August 2022
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    Hi, I have stated 'Dark-haired', not dark-skinned. Where the Iberian peoples ancestors came from pre-Iberia is reaching further back than I am surmizing
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Re: The Origins of the Dobunni - 'The Dark-haired people'? by Anonymous on Monday, 03 August 2015
Thanks for your thoughts on the Dobunni! It certainly seems possible that the Dobunni had continental origins, considering their associated 'territory' travels up the Severn and Wye valleys.
However, your suggestion that the 'Do-' prefix of their name implies 'dark hair' cannot have a strong basis. You equate the Irish word 'Dubh' with 'dark hair', but it simply means 'dark' in a nonspecific sense.
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Re: Brittany and Portugal by Anonymous on Friday, 17 February 2012
If Iberians come from Siberia, and if Siberians (Buryan, or Buryats) came to Caucasus as Iberians (Georgia, Iranian myths, al-Burjan - where jan is Arabic form in name), then as Strabo stated, Iberians in Spain are the same people.

If the 1st Norse god is Buri, and his decendants are Bor, Odin, and Thor, then Buri comes from them likewise. If Anatolian "Van Kindoms" (Noah's territory) are Burjans and/or Hyperboreans, then, these are the folks that were in Iberian Spain, and or Portugal, and in Irland at "the Burren" in Clair County, and the megaliths here, too.

Note the stone circles in Azerbaijan (i read as Azer-fire, and Baijan, or Burjan, to mean "Sky God"). Burjans should be "blacksmiths", the Boreads that built Jason's Argo ship, also on Lemnos Isle in the Aegean, with the god Hephaestus (god of the forge), and became Fir Bolg, or Celtic Picts, too, around Belgium. I believe "Fir Bolg" means Fire Rock, or Firestone.

I believe that Buryans, in S. Iran (and India with the...

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    Re: Brittany and Portugal by Anonymous on Wednesday, 01 May 2024
    I know that my largest ancient ancestry us the Celtic Dobunni, but along with that, I also carry the DNA markers of several other Nomadic Tribes, Celtic wise, also Franks, Lombards, etc.. I have a Large Concentration of The T1Haplock groups along with the R1B, and others which the T1was derived from the J Haplock,and when they analyzed My DNA, the Y DNA and MT DNA, there is a mixture of all kinds, but it gives me a percentage of each. If you do the research in how old these Haplock groups are, it mentions the Sarka in there and that goes along with the Scythians I traced way back in my tree as well as the ones I've been matched to on these archaeologucal digs because as you mention ned with Stonegenge, I'm a 97%DNA match for the Amesbury Archer that was buried outside of Stonehenge, as well as also many others and they can even match which chromosomes that is matched with the tribes and other ancient groups. I live in West Virginia, United States, but am 46%Scottish along with a...

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      Re: Brittany and Portugal by Anonymous on Sunday, 21 June 2026
      Also. connected to the Celtic DoBunni , as well as the Iberian Peninsula, through DNA. My ancestors were settlers of WV, Pennsylvania, KY and TN, with most of my family settling in WV!
      Immediate family for a few generations are scattered about Fayette and Kanawha Counties. We are mainly dark hair and eyes, which was rumored to be Cherokee, but we all know that this WAS NOT THE TRUTH. I sent out DNA to several places and along with Norweigan on Mom's side, I am largely DoBunni on my fathers.
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Re: Brittany and Portugal by Magalhaes on Friday, 21 April 2006
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This is very interesting.

Although I won't contribute directly to the topic with this, Brittany and Central Portugal share the same type of megalithic architecture, as has been noted in 1977 (here, section 5); which, at least in Brittany, is considered to be of such antiquity, previous to any known neolithic migration into the area, as to suggest the idea of "proto-megalithism".

"In three regions, the Tagus valley, Morbihan and the Irish Sea, there are remains of shell middens. The first two of these groups are also associated with Mesolithic cemeteries" which, according to one hipothesis (see link above) would be the starting points of the people who, after migrating inland, built the megaliths.

The much later Iberian (or at least, Lusitanian) genetic mix with the incoming Celts originated the Celtiberian (Iberian Celts).

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    Re: Brittany and Portugal by Arjessa on Saturday, 22 April 2006
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    It is thought that there were different groups of the Iberian (Beaker People) peoples. The Celtiberians, being a mixture of Celtic and Germanic Groups came along much later, during the time of the Punic Wars. The group known to have travelled to the areas I have mentioned are the Maritime Iberians and cover a time span estimated at 1,300 years, from around 2,300BC to 1000BC. They have even been termed Proto-Celts, coming into Britain before the Celts proper. Certainly not of the megalithic culture and time-scale that preceded it, but it is interesting to note they settled in the same areas. A case of history repeating perhaps?

    In reference to Worlebury Camp, further evidence of Iberian descent is shown in the skeltons unearthed. Allcroft states in his 'Earthworks of England'; "The camp has been shown to be the residence of a people of the Prehistoric Iron (Late Celtic) Age, and to have been dismantled about the time of the advent of the Romans in Claudius' time. . . The...

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    Re: Brittany and Portugal by Arjessa on Monday, 15 August 2022
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    Precisley! And thanks for your interest.
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