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|  Posted 06-07-2023 at 11:18
#17: Stonehenge as a Neolithic calendar:
Author: Timothy Darvill
...The author argues that the numerology of these sarsen elements materialises a perpetual calendar based on a tropical solar year of 365.25 days. The indigenous development of such a calendar in north-western Europe is possible, but an Eastern Mediterranean origin is also considered. The adoption of a solar calendar was associated with the spread of solar cosmologies during the third millennium BC and was used to regularise festivals and ceremonies?
Cambridge University Press: "Keeping time at Stonehenge"
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| Posted 07-07-2023 at 10:55
#18: Stonehenge as a temple built by the Romans.:
Author: Inigo Jones & John Web
Jones was also known for insisting on an idea that seems remarkably improbable today: that Stonehenge was a Roman temple, constructed according to the principles of classical architecture
British Library article"
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| Posted 07-07-2023 at 11:01
#19: Stonehenge as a temple built by the Danes:
Author: Walter Charleton (1663)
Charleton concluded that Stonehenge must have been the work of the Danes, since they had the technology and skill to transport and elevate the monolithic stones, and that the monument was built as a meeting place for the election and coronation of the Danish kings.
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| Posted 10-07-2023 at 12:36
#20: Stonehenge as the Domain of the ancestors:
Authors: Parker Pearson and Ramilisonina
{Stonehenge}... "where, it is proposed, bluestone and sarsen settings materialised the concept of the ancestral dead, the domain of the ancestors." {contrasting with} "The Cursus.. contains no ancestors (i.e. standing stones)"*
Sidestone Press: Stonehenge for the Ancestors"
*pages: 351 & 382 of volume 1 and 267 & 270 of volume 2
Note: there are multiple other papers forwarding this hypothesis. For simplicity, only the latest is included.
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| Posted 10-07-2023 at 12:45
#21: Stonehenge as the axis mundi / Unification hypothesis :
Author: Mike Parker Pearson
"this place {Stonehenge} would thus constitute an axis mundi that was returned to time and again throughout the Mesolithic and into the Neolithic. Eventually the locale would be monumentalised in stone, perhaps to enhance and memorialise this gathering-place for the unification of Britain’s Neolithic farmers from across southern Britain.... The bluestone circle of Stonehenge stage 1 embodied a unification of ancestral identities with southwest Wales" and Stage 2 a "<> response designed to reinforce and create unity amongst culturally late Neolithic populations...."*
Sidestone Press: Stonehenge for the Ancestors Part 2"
*pages: 473 of volume 1 and 196 & 202 of volume 2
Note: this hypothesis seems separate from no 20 (Domain of the ancestors) but may be dependent upon it.
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| Posted 10-07-2023 at 18:56
#22: Stonehenge as a Sun & Moon calendar:
Author: Neil L Thomas
"Stonehenge Sacred Symbolism reveals the Bible’s Old Testament tale of the disappearance of Sodom and Gomorrah actually occurred about 2250 BC.... The pre-historic peoples of Ireland, Britain, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Iceland, France and Germany exhibit similar elements of ancient beliefs and a Sun calendar: sixteen months, four weeks a month, five days a week, 365 days a year.... The Stonehenge Moon calendar featured two rings of pits dug into the subsoil"
"Stonehenge Sacred Symbolism {Book}"
Neil L Thomas produced a number of different books with titles such as "Stonehenge Speaks", "Stonehenge Explained" and "Stonehenge Mathematics".
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| Posted 11-07-2023 at 11:30
#23: Stonehenge as the Speculum of the All-pervading Glance
Author: Unknown (referred to as the London Druids by EO Gordon, 1914)
"The Druids, it is said, by means of a most powerful reflecting mirror of metal called “Dyrch Haul Kibddar” filled the circle (Stonehenge) with a blaze of glory from on high"
EO Gordon: ‘Prehistoric London’, first published in 1914
Dyrch Haul Kibddar probably refers to Drych Ail Cibddar: recorded in the Triads as one of the famous enchanters, under the name of the three "priv Uedrithiawg
Ynys Prydain," refer to The Myvyrian Archaiology (of Wales) for more information.
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| Posted 12-07-2023 at 06:23
#24: Stonehenge as a monument (transported from Ireland by giants) to slain men
Author: Geoffrey of Monmouth (12th Century)
" Geoffrey tells us that the high king, Aurelius Ambrosius, wanted to create a fitting memorial to the slain men. Merlin suggested an expedition to Ireland for the purpose of transplanting the Giant's Ring stone circle to Britain. According to Geoffrey of Monmouth, the stones of the Giant's Ring were originally brought from Africa to Ireland by giants..."
Good summary at Iversity.org
Archive org (this needs account to read)
This book is currently very low cost secondhand
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|  Posted 14-07-2023 at 21:18
Hi Jonm,
Geoffrey of Monmouth is an pretty great artist to me !
Thank's for raising your library here and
best
Dudy 
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| Posted 14-07-2023 at 22:03
Do you know Edward Gibbons, The decline and fall of the Roman Empire ?
The british paganism seperated and probably it was a vulcanic eruption of the meso-american Ilopango which ended around 535 AD druidism and antiquity age as a whole by a darkening of the sun. The paleness has dured about 18 month, as Gibbons explains in Vol. 7. Awesome story ... .
https://www.archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.24038/page/n269/mode/2up?view=theater
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|  Posted 17-07-2023 at 18:31
Hi little Jon,
i bring Gibbons' explanations in Vol. 4, pages 247 - 250 to an end and add the source mentioned by him, Zosimos Historia Nea, Liber VI. Zosimos' (ca. 375 - 440) report is reliable. To my mind, pages 656 -658 of this edition will be important about.
https://www.archive.org/details/zsimoukomtoskai00leungoog/page/n752/mode/2up?view=theater
"Britannos ... confirmili se modo liberarunt ... & sua quadam republica pro arbitrio constituta" Zosimos
They did it in the right way, so let's behave in a good mood
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| Posted 06-08-2023 at 04:19
Hi Jon
I missed your last post (nearly a month ago which, which makes me a tardy idiot!) about the stones being brought from Ireland.
The kingdom of Brycheiniog (Brecon) is thought by some historians to have been founded by a bastard son of King Sweyne in the 6th Century. Swe(a)yne, from which name Swansea (Sweyne's Sea) is thought to derive, was of Norse-Irish descent. When you couple this with all the other evidence for Vikings in South Wales (especially names around the Bristol Channel) it is perfectly possible that in the 12th Century much of Wales was considered to be Irish. Thus, it is possible that Geoffrey of Monmouth thought of West Wales (ie the Preselis) as being Irish.
Other incidental evidence includes the Ogham script (approx 4th to 6th centuries AD) which is only found outside Ireland in Wales. Plus of course the folk story that St Patrick was schooled in Llanwit Major and was kidnapped by Irish pirates and taken to Ireland.
All of this suggests a close link between South Wales and Ireland. If the Welsh government could get it out of their head that the Welsh are NOT Celts (ie Halstatt and La Tene cultures) it may become possible to define Welsh history more accurately.
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| Posted 08-08-2023 at 18:40
Thanks Sem
Does seem to link in well. Not tardy.. I haven't had time to come to this site often!
Dudy
Had a look, but couldn't work out what the Gibbons' theory was. Maybe you could explain it and add it to the list?
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| Posted 12-08-2023 at 22:54
Hi Jon
One other thing I should have added is about the stones being brought from Africa to Ireland by giants.
Southern Britain, approx. 500 million years ago, was part of the continent of Gondwana, along with Africa. Much of the rock was sedimentary and still includes similar fossils like trilobites and ammonites, especially in Morocco.
I don't think it's beyond the bounds of possibility that Geoffrey had been told by someone of Moorish extraction (especially as the Normans had well known links in the Mediterranean area) that the rocks in Wales were similar to those of their own country.
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| Posted 27-08-2023 at 23:49
My own personal theory is that around 5,500yrs ago a group of early farmers had a shaman/wiseman who, being able to foretell the future, thought "I will create a puzzle for one of my line to spend a lifetime solving.
Whether he solves it is irrelevant, but it will give him a purpose when the future seems as dark as this new farming idea. May the gods help him on his path."
Obviously this Wiseman was wise.
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| Posted 31-08-2023 at 18:11
We'll have to assign that one as no #25 Sem!
Thought there were more than this. But if there were, I've forgotten them.
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| Posted 01-09-2023 at 11:48
Jonm, your idea of creating this list is really original and unique, however what Sem is proposing is to be treated as an extremely weak intellectual joke.
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| Posted 02-09-2023 at 04:19
Oh dear someone’s forgotten the rules again.
(Post 1 ) ‘Idea of the thread is not to discuss the validity of the ideas’
At least Sem’s theory is original unlike gregor’s which was published by others in 2003
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/014107680309600214
all hails to the redoubtable Mr Wiseman RIP (much missed)
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| Posted 02-09-2023 at 07:50
The reliability of a scientist, among other things, is also manifested in the fact that when quoting the statements of others, quotes are given in unchanged content. The lack of this skill can result in various erroneous conclusions.
And such manipulation can also be observed in the one given by: drolaf, who, by posting the quote: jonm, did it in insufficient detail.
There is: (Post 1) ‘The idea of the thread is not to discuss the validity of the ideas’
It should read: "Idea of the thread is *not* to discuss the validity of the ideas (or anything else)."
This "small" inaccuracy distorts the meaning of the said statement, which was forgotten by the person with the nickname: drolaf.
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| Posted 03-09-2023 at 13:02
Hi Jonm
If Sem’s puzzle posing wiseman is #25 can geometry be #26?
theory: Stonehenge was part of a geometric system of construction used across a wide area in the Neolithic/BA.
Author Cathryn iliffe
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https://www.academia.edu/39045564/Simple_solutions_for_Neolithic_structures_Part_3_The_annulus_form_and_inner_circle_arcs
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