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|  Posted 29-04-2024 at 09:25
Moon Gardening, there's a bit more of the theory here.
I've heard of the technique being used for medicinal plants as well as edible ones.
https://permacultureprinciples.com/post/planting-by-the-moon/
It's featured in old Farmer's Almanacs and the like, one day when I have enough time I'd like to try a few small scale observations.
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| Posted 10-05-2024 at 18:25
#36: Stonehenge as a Giant Xylophone/Lithophone.
Author: Jon Wozencroft and/or Paul Devereux (2013)
Preseli Bluestones which are the stones found on the 5000-year-old site might have been picked due to their "acoustic energy."
Summary at Royal College of Art
Huff post article"
Note hypothesis related to hypothesis #5, but #5 is more about sound reflection rather than using the stones as an instrument
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| Posted 12-05-2024 at 10:15
I don't know enough about the moon cycles of Stonehenge, but as a qualified herbalist I did investigate the moon cycle planting issues. There are a few books on this and it seems to have a long tradition. I do know that certain medicinal plants have been proven to have a high content of the so-called "active" chemicals at full moon which is why traditional herbalists and witches gathered them at night. So I guess the shamen/women would have known about this during the stone age.
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| Posted 27-07-2024 at 08:52
There is good evidence that the Harris and Stockdale Megalithic Foot (HSMF) played a pivotal role in the design and construction of the Stonehenge complex and that the lunar periods of the anomalistic month and the eclipse year, together with the HSMF, were built into the central sarsen circle region.
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| Posted 29-07-2024 at 13:23
Thanks for the reminder of this thread Peter. Will add a few more:
#37: Stonehenge as a A Sonic Pattern of the Universe
Author: Andrew Collins
Stonehenge’s underlying geometry relate to the monument’s potential role as a sonic temple
Researchgate reference
Possibly related to #5 and #36
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| Posted 29-07-2024 at 13:24
#38: Stonehenge's trilithons allude to pi and their own [1, 1, pi] latitude..
Author: Robin Spivey (Bangor University]
Archaeologists have overlooked geographical coordinates when studying ancient monuments but it transpires that the latitude of Stonehenge is a simple and elegant function of pi.... These discoveries strongly reinforce existing conclusions that highly precise geolocation was possible and indeed practised on Earth long before the deployment of satellite-based navigation systems.
Researchgate page"
Note courtesy Richard Bartosz: The symbolic "Pi" as represented by the trilithons is a subject of Ralph Ellis' book, "Thoth, Architect of the Universe", first published in 1997. Chapter 3, "Pi Gate".
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| Posted 29-07-2024 at 13:24
#39: Stonehenge as a computer for measuring all the relationships between earth, the sun and the moon.
Author: Jonathan Gray (2005)
(It appears that) Stonehenge was built to determine the new orbital position and thus the new length of the year, as well as the new axial position of the earth, following the catastrophe.
Author website: see chapter entitled “The Corpse came back"
Note hypothesis appears to be related to hypothesis #12
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| Posted 29-07-2024 at 13:26
#40: Stonehenge was also used to predict lunar eclipses .
Author: Sharon Lynn Montgomery (2005) Clarion University
I suggest a way that makes use of the imposing, central region of Stonehenge; the area built during the final phase of activity. To predict every lunar eclipse without predicting eclipses that do not occur, I use the less familiar lunar cycle of 47 lunar months. By moving markers about the Sarsen Circle, the Bluestone Circle, and the Bluestone Horseshoe, all umbral lunar eclipses can be predicted accurately.
Researchgate link to: Bulletin of the American Astronomical Society
Note multiple variants on this hypothesis appear to exist. Hypothesis appears to be related to hypothesis #12
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| Posted 29-07-2024 at 13:26
#41: Stonehenge considered as the Neolithic Equivalent of Today’s National Theatre.
Author: Rebecca Lambert
Stonehenge was a significant place for those who travelled to build there, connect there, to ‘perform’ there and, for me, this is why it can be considered, if not the Neolithic equivalent of the National Theatre, then certainly the Neolithic theatrum mundi, theatrum orbis, theatrum vitae humanae.
Researchgate link to original preprint
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| Posted 29-07-2024 at 13:26
#42: Stonehenge as a geocentric orrery explaining the Universe and Everything
Author: JonM (Jonathan Morris)
Stonehenge could have been constructed to demonstrate a geocentric (i.e. earth-centred) universe using it's plan layout as an east facing 2D representation of the Universe and using its central stones to create a 3D sun-lit Orrery explaining the {apparent} movement of the Sun.
Megalithic Portal summary of “A Neolithic Universe”
Megalithic Portal: early introduction
Hypothesis related to hypothesis #23 (Stonehenge as the Speculum of the All-pervading Glance)
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| Posted 14-08-2024 at 15:57
New theory The alterstone came from NE Scotland
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c207lqdn755o
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-07652-1
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| Posted 06-10-2024 at 23:49
Hi Jon
Here's something I've never put into words before but have been thinking about for a long time. Before the theory there are a few things to be born in mind.
Firstly, every construction concept used at SH has been used before and for a very long time. Stones had been erected upright (and at varying angles for various reasons) with larger stones placed atop them - every chambered tomb demonstrates this attribute.
Secondly, the joints used in the SH construction (mortice-tenon and tongue-groove) were regularly used for wood for millennia prior to SH, at least according to archaeologists. If they are wrong we are in a totally different ballgame!
Thirdly, stones larger than those at SH were moved many miles to create monuments up to two thousand years older than SH.
So all you have in SH is an acme of tens of millennia of people working with and using stone (tools and monuments) but with one big difference, THE PRECISION! The top of the sarcen lintels are reckoned to be within one and a half inches of perfectly level - not bad considering there is a slope of (from memory) a few feet across the circle!
This was obviously a construction, probably designed and planned beforehand, to awe people and was erected using artisans/experts form all over the UK (hence the accommodation at Durrington Walls). Earlier religions were acknowledged but engineers were now the masters!
Overall just another example of human cultural evolution but nothing new demonstrated in its' construction methods.
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| Posted 26-10-2024 at 17:53
#43: The altarstone came from NE Scotland
Author: Anthony Clarke, Richard Bevins, Rob Ixer et al
Stonehenge's six-tonne Altar Stone at the heart of Stonehenge came from the far north of Scotland.
Nature article
Hypothesis probably runs parallel with other hypotheses
(thought it worth recording this one formally)
Hi Sem
Sorry for late response. Probably not that important, but the timber/stone joint thing is not related in the way that Stonehenge authors think it is. Worth a new thread maybe.
[edited to make link work]
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| Posted 21-01-2025 at 03:04
Hi Jon
Not necessarily a theory but I just heard on a BBC4 programme about a scan of the Great Pyramid that showed the cornerstones are "within 10cm (3.94 inches)" of being level. I remember reading that the lintel circle, using a similar scanning method is within 1.5 inches of being level.
Maybe we had help of aliens that the Gyptos didn't get?!?
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| Posted 24-01-2025 at 17:55
#44: Stonehenge as a tumulus with a central courtyard
Author: Didier Laroche, Ensas, Lecturer History and architectural culture
The hypothesis presented here is consistent with a funeral function of the monument that can be called a tumulus with a central courtyard. On the other hand, the pillars being part of a continuous wall and the trilithons being in an enclosed space, any geometric interpretation related to solar alignments, apart from the general direction depending on the summer (or winter) solstice become meaningless
The paper on Academia
Hi Sem
"Maybe we had help of aliens that the Gyptos didn't get?!?"
Long time no speak. It's remarkably easy to create a level surface between two points. This doesn't need anything other than wood and water so is really low tech. It's possible to do way better than 1.5" (~35mm) for a short distance such as at Stonehenge, so it's possible that a lot of the 1.5" was probably due to differential settlement as a result of the shape of the stones at the base (aka chalk remoulding). Not so bad with chalk and free standing elements, but there can be severe differential settlement: for example, Newgrange was constructed using pockets/layers of peat. Peat shrinks under the slightest of stress, and that produces settlement of the dome cap which in turn would transfer massive and uneven side wall stresses to vertical elements.
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| Posted 23-03-2025 at 08:39
#45: Stonehenge as a temple of Horus
Author: Ernest Sibree, who taught Ancient Egyptian in Bristol
The idea it was a temple of Horus, as set out in the Western Daily Press by Ernest Sibree. More interesting is Sibree himself, (Aldon Dodson has provided a biography) and published a book on Stanton Drew, arguing the stone circle had a calendrical function
Link to Jonathan Last's post on Bluesky
Edited to delete image (wouldn't load). But can be seen on Jonathan Last's bluesky post
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| Posted 23-03-2025 at 13:01
I'm not sure what he has said specifically about Stonehenge but we have an potentially unique alignment theory from the archive of the late Robert Bell here:
https://www.megalithic.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=Forum&file=viewtopic&topic=9534&forum=4&start=0
(and looking for someone to investigate the archive of and potentially take over his research)
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| Posted 23-03-2025 at 14:27
Andy: I had a quick look at your links. I also signed in to gmail while other tabs were open and one of your links showed a document home link. So I clicked on that and it looked like some of Robert Bell's archive on gmail's "Drive" - definitely not mine. In it was a copy of my Stellarium landscape "Stonehenge-MegP". Intriguing!
jonm:
"Horus in the Horizon", "Horus on the Horizon". "Aker", "Horemakhet", "Horakhty". Egyptian sun gods, horizon gods etcetera, is a complicated and confusing research issue. If not Stonehenge then perhaps Mitchell's Fold as a regional power centre. I've a long way to go on this topic, but for sure there are lions all around the horizon as seen from Mitchell's.
I'd give it more credence than Meaden's "Fertility Temple" and Stone 67 as symbolising a penis, but then I'm biased.
https://ancientegyptonline.co.uk/horemakhet/
https://ancientegyptonline.co.uk/horakhty/
Genealogy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horus
The Western Daily Press link for January 24, 1925 for Sibree:
https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/search/results/1925-01-24?NewspaperTitle=Western%2BDaily%2BPress&IssueId=BL%2F0000264%2F19250124%2F&County=Bristol%2C%20England
This is behind a paywall. I registered and after three free pages when I couldn't find his entry, the rest is extortionately priced, imho.
I'm still working on the graphics for the Lion Roared thread - among several other things.
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| Posted 26-03-2025 at 07:11
Its was constructed for sky burials
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| Posted 30-03-2025 at 03:23
Hi LW
Whilst not totally disagreeing with your suggestion that SH was used for sky burials, there seems to be plenty of evidence that Neolithic long barrows were used for the internment of bones that had been excarnated (ie the removal of flesh) in mortuary enclosures. There is also evidence that the excarnation was carried out by humans with just the remains left to nature.
Personally I would prefer to have my fleshly body stripped by eagles and not rats, but I fear that said eagles would have been too drunk to fly after feeding on me!
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