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Natural PlacesSite Name: Grotte de Treilles
Country: France Département: Midi:Aveyron (12) Type: Cave or Rock Shelter
Nearest Town: Saint-Affrique  Nearest Village: Saint-Jean-d'Alcas
Latitude: 43.947000N  Longitude: 3.037000E
Condition:
5Perfect
4Almost Perfect
3Reasonable but with some damage
2Ruined but still recognisable as an ancient site
1Pretty much destroyed, possibly visible as crop marks
0No data.
-1Completely destroyed
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5Superb
4Good
3Ordinary
2Not Good
1Awful
0No data.
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5Can be driven to, probably with disabled access
4Short walk on a footpath
3Requiring a bit more of a walk
2A long walk
1In the middle of nowhere, a nightmare to find
0No data.
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5co-ordinates taken by GPS or official recorded co-ordinates
4co-ordinates scaled from a detailed map
3co-ordinates scaled from a bad map
2co-ordinates of the nearest village
1co-ordinates of the nearest town
0no data
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Men from the Middle East lived in the Grotte de Treilles 3500 BCE by Andy B on Sunday, 12 June 2011
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French report of the same research:

It is a very important discovery was made in the Grotte de Treilles into the town of St. John and St. Paul. Men from the Middle East, probably from Anatolia (Turkey), lived in the fourth millennium BC in Aveyron.

This discovery, made by French researchers, was made possible by DNA analysis of teeth from skulls found in the cave. The analysis showed that "the majority of subjects were men buried down to a single ancestor from the Middle East," said Francis Duranthon, director of the Natural History Museum in Toulouse, where the bones were kept . The burial Treilles was excavated in the 1930s. A minimum of 149 subjects were found: 63 children and sub-adults and 86 adults, buried over a period of one to two centuries.

Genetic studies conducted on the teeth of 24 people identified 22 male individuals, of which 3 were very close relatives and 16 of the same paternal lineage. This suggests that it was a clan, according to scientists.

Women from the Causses

The study is published in PNAS (Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences), Bulletin of the American Academy of Sciences.

"This is a settlement from the Middle East in the early Neolithic period and now almost totally disappeared," concluded Eric Crubézy Lacan and Marie, who carried out the study of DNA with CNRS, University Paul Sabatier in Toulouse and Strasbourg University.

However, they point out, the two women found in the grave come from the Grands Causses, which includes the Larzac.

The discovery of Middle Eastern background men confirms "the importance of population movements during the Neolithic along the Mediterranean coasts," said Francis Duranthon, who led the work.

"So far, he says, we had evidence suggesting that there was migration" in that time, such as ceramics. "But here, we know from genetics," with the genomes of nearly 5,000 years, he enthuses.

The men of foreign origin Treilles is still marked by the absence of a gene to digest fresh milk. People living in the area at that time were in turn able to consume.

Analysis by Eric Crubézy used for the first time genetic markers located on the nuclear DNA (contained in the cell nucleus) of bones dating back over 3,500 years before our era. They can get items on the paternal and maternal lineages of an individual while the mitochondrial DNA (the cytoplasm of cells) examined so far did not provide guidance on the mother.

Google translation of French report here:

http://www.ladepeche.fr/article/2011/06/01/1096173-des-hommes-venus-du-moyen-orient-vivaient-dans-la-grotte-de-treilles-3-500-ans-avant-notre-ere.html

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No cheese for Neolithic humans in France by Andy B on Sunday, 12 June 2011
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An excavation of a southern French burial site from about 3,000 B.C. shows that the modern humans who expanded into the area from the Mediterranean lived in patrilocal communities and did not have the genetic mutation that allowed later Europeans to digest fresh milk.

Scientists analyzed DNA extracted from the bones of 53 people buried in Cave I of the Treilles, located in the Grands Causses region at Saint-Jean-et-Saint-Paul, Aveyron in France. They were able to get useful information from 29 of those samples, 22 men, two women ad five for whom it was impossible to determine sex. Most of them appeared to be closely related, with two of them having a 99.9979% probability of being father and son and two others having a 99.9985% probability of being siblings.

The researchers were able to deduce from their findings that the peoples in this region of France were of a genetic type more closely related to Basque and Spanish populations than current western European populations. They were also more closely related to peoples in Cyprus, Portugal, Turkey, Italy and Lebanon.

None of them carried the gene for lactase persistence that is believed to have first evolved around 5,500 BC in Central Europe and which allowed humans to drink fresh milk after they are weaned.

The absence of the genetic variation probably shows that the Treilles people most likely came from agricultural-pastoral Mediterranean cultures that drank fermented milk and had an economy based on sheep and goat farming.

More at USA Today
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/sciencefair/post/2011/05/no-cheese-for-neolithic-humans-in-france-/1

With thanks to Coldrum
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    Re: No cheese for Neolithic humans in France by TheCaptain on Sunday, 12 June 2011
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    No cheese? What a shame, being so near to the world famous village of Roquefort.
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