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<< Other Photo Pages >> Grotte du Placard - Cave or Rock Shelter in France in Poitou:Charente (16)

Submitted by TheCaptain on Saturday, 16 April 2005  Page Views: 6922

Natural PlacesSite Name: Grotte du Placard Alternative Name: Grotte de Rochebertier
Country: France
NOTE: This site is 5.456 km away from the location you searched for.
Département: Poitou:Charente (16) Type: Cave or Rock Shelter
Nearest Town: Angoulême  Nearest Village: Vilhonneur
Latitude: 45.689722N  Longitude: 0.419722E
Condition:
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3Reasonable but with some damage
2Ruined but still recognisable as an ancient site
1Pretty much destroyed, possibly visible as crop marks
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5Can be driven to, probably with disabled access
4Short walk on a footpath
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pixlink visited on 23rd Jul 2013 - their rating: Cond: 5 Amb: 5 Access: 4 open on weekends in summer months with guided tours given by working archaeologists. Well worth the trouble to visit. Visitor interpretation centre with 10 minute film in French, a display of artifacts found and context information, then you are taken into the cave in small groups to see the rock art itself. Very detailed site with panoramic photos of the cave http://www.encharente.com/vilhonneur-grotte-du-placard/

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Grotte du Placard submitted by Creative Commons : Grotte du Placard, Vilhonneur (Charente, France) Par Jack ma (Travail personnel) [GFDL ou CC BY-SA 3.0], via Wikimedia Commons (Vote or comment on this photo)
Cave near to the village of Vilhonneur in Charente, which contained many ancient finds, largely excavated between 1874 and 1910.

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Grotte du Placard submitted by durhamnature : Carved Fox head, from "Text Book of European Archaeology" via archive.org Site in Poitou:Charente (16) France (Vote or comment on this photo)

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Grotte du Placard submitted by durhamnature : Horse tack, from "Anthropologie" via archive.org Site in Poitou:Charente (16) France (Vote or comment on this photo)

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Grotte du Placard submitted by durhamnature : Image of the cave from "Prehistoric Art..." via archive.org Site in Poitou:Charente (16) France (Vote or comment on this photo)

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Re: Grotte du Placard by Anonymous on Sunday, 04 June 2006
Pour Leroi-Gourhan, les signes en accolade (comme il appelait les signes de type Placard) sont des signes bêta, qu'il a initialement fait correspondre au sexe féminin, dont des équivalents sont les dessins de blessures. Les traits, notamment ceux qui traversent les hommes blessés que nous avons observés, sont des signes alpha, masculins.
L'association des signes du Placard et des traits blessant les hommes renouvellerait ainsi la dyade alpha-bêta de Leroi-Gourhan. Parmi les signes qui ressemblent le plus aux "papillons" de Chauvet, j'ai noté que plusieurs sont des signes féminins : les pendentifs de Dolní Vestonice représentant des femmes et des seins, le signe en forme de seins de la grotte du Portel. A moins que ces pendentifs unissent les symboles des deux sexes. Züchner précise cependant que " la pensée paléolithique est bien plus complexe qu'une dyade masculin - féminin, et affirmer que les signes du Placard ne représentent que la féminité ne serait qu'une partie de la vérité ". Les études actuelles sur l'art paléolithique sont plus prudentes et moins dogmatiques qu'au siècle dernier. Elles se contentent souvent d'être descriptives, mais avec précision et exhaustivité. Nous retiendrons donc surtout les associations du signe du Placard avec le thème de l'homme blessé (souvent à tête d'oiseau) et avec le dessin du cheval.

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Re: Grotte du Placard by Andy B on Saturday, 03 June 2006
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Have I got the right cave for this news story Captain?
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    Re: Grotte du Placard by TheCaptain on Sunday, 04 June 2006
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    Doing a bit of searching round, it turns out that this is a newly discovered cave, and not this one. which was largely excavated between 1874 and 1910.

    I have added a new site for this new cave, seemingly known as Grotte de Vilhonneur.
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    Re: Grotte du Placard by Andy B on Sunday, 04 June 2006
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    Great - thanks, I've transferred the news item. This story is coming up in a lot of news sources but only we can show where (approximately) it is.
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Experts uncover 'rare finds' in ancient cave by Andy B on Saturday, 03 June 2006
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A 27,000-year-old human skeleton laid out in a room decorated with ancient art was among the rare finds at a cave in western France whose subterranean art predates that of the famed Lascaux caves.

It was only the second time that a human body from the upper Paleolithic period had been found placed in a cave with decorations, the Culture Ministry said.

The state took over ownership of the cave in the Vilhonneur forest on May 12, according to a ministry statement.

A crude representation of a human face found in the cave could be among the oldest ever discovered, said Jean-Yves Baratin, archaeology curator for the Poitou-Charentes region.

The face was “represented in the most elementary way, using an anomaly of the wall,” Baratin said.

Two pieces of calcite that split are used to form the hair with two black horizontal strokes depicting the eyes. A vertical stroke forms the nose and another horizontal stroke the mouth.

Cavers exploring part of a grotto once used to dispose of animal carcasses discovered the cave in December. It dates to the upper Paleolithic period roughly 25,000 years ago, like the skeleton.

Its discovery was announced in February but it was not until Friday that precise information about some of the finds was divulged.

Baratin underscored the significance of the human skeleton, a young male, placed on the ground inside a decorated room. The only other instance in which a body was known to have been found in a decorated room of a cave is in the hamlet of Cussac, a grotto that experts have said was as important for engravings as paintings are for the famed Lascaux caves.

The archaeologist said two rib bones were analysed at a laboratory in Miami, Florida, dating the skeleton at 27,000 years.

The Vilhonneur cave features a series of decorations, including a negative imprint of a right hand, surrounded in black, on a wall, made by blowing colour onto the area once the hand has been placed there, experts said.

Five skeletons of young hyenas were found in another room.

The famed Lascaux Cave in Montignac, in the south west Dordogne region, has long been considered one of the finest examples of cave paintings. However, that art dates to 13,000 years, making the Vilhonneur art much older.

Another cave, Chauvet, discovered in the mid-1990s in south east France, features some 300 examples of Paleolithic animal art, some dating back 31,000 years.

Experts plan to secure the Vilhonneur cave and carry out research likely to last several years.

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