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Rollright Stones
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AddedOct 18 2012
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Description It's interesting that this part of the circle looks like it points to the winter solstice sunset.

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PeteG
(2012-10-18)
nice shot Paul!
Bladup
(2012-10-18)
Thanks a lot.
Postman
(2012-10-19)
Ay up, we meet again Mr Blades
Bladup
(2012-10-19)
Fancy seeing you here!
Postman
(2012-10-19)
Well, it is a small world afterall. Great picture as well, do you reckon it's intentional?
Bladup
(2012-10-20)
Maybe, if you straighten the leaning stones back up, it does seem a very straight bit of the circle, and then when you look each way along the "row" you've got Midwinter sunset one way [as in the photo] and midsummer sunrise along the other way [if you make it into 2 little rows one points to midwinter sunset and the other the minor moon at midsummer] so you never know, the rollrights have other straight bits as well, so i'll have a look at some point to see if they point to anything, one really straight bit on the east side on the plan i've just looked at does point to the major moon at midwinter, and therefore the other way points to the major moon at midsummer, so all in all the straight bits do seem very intentional.
tiompan
(2012-10-20)
When you look at where the leaning stones are sited ,particularly the one closest to the observer , they are way out of alignment with the extremes , straightening them would not change that . Avebury is better for finding straight sections and some are much closer to actual astro events .Worth bearing in mind that stones were removed from Rollright in the 19th C and replaced around 1886 .
Bladup
(2012-10-25)
If it may be true at Avebury, i can't see any reason why it can't be true not to far away at the Rollrights, and lots of other stone circles of that age as well, especially when you consider how similar the rollrights are to places like Castlerigg, Gamelands, and even more so Swinside, long meg and The Druid's circle in north wales with their portal entrances, also The Girdle Stanes with it's possible portal entrance as well, and maybe even the 12 Apostles also in Dumfriesshire.
tiompan
(2012-10-25)
Avebury has the longest straight sections of any stone circle most of which don't align on anything auspicious , and any that do could not be considered intentionally "aligned " . Like Rollright many of the stones have been re-erected and you will always find a group that will appear to be "aligned " Rollright has much shorter straight sections in this case 3-4 stones , most of which don't align on anything auspicious either . No archaeoastronmer considers these straight sections as being indications of an orientation , even Thom who surveyed the circle didn't suggest anything at all for the monument .Yes , some stone circles have portal type entrances particularly in Cumbria/Dumfries (Ballynoe in Ireland could also belong to this group ) and despite being clearer indications of an orientation they vary .Burl and Thom couldn't agree on a azimuth for the Rollright portal which was calculated from the centre of the monument .
Bladup
(2012-10-25)
At the rollrights one side of the portal entrance is pretty much aligned on the rising major moon at midsummer, most of the portal entrances seem to point at either a special time though the year, a special time in the cycle of the moon, or a cardinal point, i believe that when the sites are put side by side it's beyond chance they align on things like they do without it been on purpose and they were all certainly meant, some may be a little out but that doesn't stop them being symbolic alignments, and because of this there may be lots of other unnoticed alignments as well.
tiompan
(2012-10-25)
Burl thought the portal was aligned on the standstill ,Thom didn't agree . You mentioned earlier a straight a bit of the circle being aligned the standstill ,this a consequence of the architecture , you can find “alignments “ using two or three stones in a line or across stones in stone circles but archaeoastronomers and an archaeos would never accept them as being intentional , they are everywhere . Thom who knew a thing or two about stone circles and astronomy and could find alignments in some places when they didn't exist didn't find any alignments at Rollright .The portals at Castlerigg and Gunnerkeld point to a part of the horizon where the sun and moon will not be seen . If you want to include the euphemism for “not aligned “ i.e. symbolic , then every stone circle will have alignments what happens is that it becomes meaningless and the genuine alignments get lost in the noise .
Bladup
(2012-10-26)
I did mention some align on cardinals if you look above, and clearly anything aligned to the north would be out of the range of the sun and moon and at Castlerigg the portal/entrance is clearly aligned to the North, and it can't be a coincidence that at castlerigg it's so easy to know the direction your looking, because North is so clearly marked.
tiompan
(2012-10-26)
Castlerigg in it's iconic hill setting is fine example of a stone circle that does not have any of the major solar and lunar alignments oriented from the circle to any of the peaks or anything prominent .. As if to confirm this avoidance of sun and moon relationship with the landscape the one intentional feature that could be seen as being an indication is to the north(ish) . Of course playing about with the any of the stone to stone or lines of three stones alignments will produce anything you like but as at Rollright they would never be considered as being intentional .

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