AngieLake
(2004-12-15) | Far out man! |
Andy B
(2004-12-16) | Keep the stone carving virtual like this, not real and we'll all be happy. |
STARMAN
(2004-12-16) | HiAndy, what's real? Just browsing this excellent site, it is as I'd expect:
Lots of lovely pictures of stones with lots of ideas about who raised them and why. There is only one answer to this question and through my work it will become apparent to all in good time. As far as keeping everyone happy, they say ignorance is bliss. I find that knowing the truth is what makes me the happiest of all!
mike |
Thorgrim
(2004-12-16) | Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it. Andre Gide (1869 - 1951) |
Andy B
(2004-12-16) | Hello Mike, that's all well and good, but a Portal visitor who I know and trust alleges that you told him you made the swastika carving on the Hellstone dolmen. Follow the link to see his photo. We appreciate you talking to us - what do you have to say in response to this? Andy |
STARMAN
(2004-12-16) | Hi Andy, the Hell Stone did not come up in conversation.
I do no work what so ever at the site, I only work at circles. You will find no reference on my own site to the Hell Stone or left handed Swastikas except in response to the artical by Prash Trivedi.
Neither do I work with the Star of David. Again, the only reference on my site to this symbol is in the picture that accompanies the poem 'Power up'. On that occasion I was refering to the Harmonic Concordance in the skies at the time. For now, I only use 4 symbols in my work, three of which feature in the pictures on my site. The crystals I have buried at Stonehenge, Avebury and Nine Stones are not the glass button variety paraded by Teufel, they are real and all come from one piece.
mike |
Andy B
(2004-12-17) | So are you now saying you didn't carve this?
Whether glass or 'real', burying crystals at prehistoric sites is not on. It damages archaeological stratigraphy (information gleaned from the layers at which genuinely old things in the soil are buried). Please stop. Chalk is not good for the stone surfaces either.
Andy |
Andy B
(2004-12-17) | I think the people who left the abusive comments in your guest book were under the impression you were making carvings into stones. |
STARMAN
(2004-12-17) | Andy, when did I say anything contrary? You and Teufel are responsable for any impressional abuse on my site. You two and some of your readers. I have received four death threats and numerous threats of violence because of what you have allowed to be posted. Well done lads. |
Thorgrim
(2004-12-17) | Does burying crystals at ancient sites really disturb the "archaeological stratigraphy"? No - of course not - no archaeologist is going to mistake a recent crystal burial for anything ancient. Some perspective please! Does carving swastikas or anything else on ancient stones harm them? Yes - of course it does. Is Starman guilty or not - I don't know. When this issue first came to light, I urged restraint and said that witch hunts and threats would do no good at all. If Starman cares for the stones he will not harm them. |
Andy B
(2004-12-17) | ? Digging around stones or other scheduled sites to bury anything is bound to disturb the earth and should not be condoned |
thecaptain
(2004-12-18) | Have to say that while I cannot condone any of the things allegedly done by Starman to some ancient sites, there is far more damage continually going on all around us by both big business, farmers, and leisure activity of the moneyed people in this country. I have seen untold damage being done in all parts by 4WD vehicles, ploughs and quarries. Just look at Ty-Isaf for example. The thought of swastikas possibly being carved on some ancient stones by Mike did not please me, but I feel a more overall perspective needs to be taken.
But please do not damage any stones Starman. |
enkidu41
(2004-12-18) | I must endorse Andy's comments. Whether any archaeologist is going to mistake a recently buried crystal for something ancient is completely irrelevant. The damage is done by the digging - not the burying. To say no damage is done to the stratigraphic record by digging is simply perverse. And hear, hear to thecaptain even though the assertion it's just the moneyed people who cause damage is a tad inaccurate! |
thecaptain
(2004-12-18) | poimt taken Enkidu. I guess I was being a bit specific in my thoughts of big 4WD trucks driving over everything. |
Thorgrim
(2004-12-18) | Not perverse at all, Enkidu. Look at the photos of the buried crystals - they are barely below surface level - nothing is disturbed. My quarrel with people who use crystals is entirely to do with the way crystals are torn from the earth and the sweated child labour that turns them into polished baubles for new age shopkeepers to sell at vastly inflated prices. Then they witter on about good vibrations and healing etc - yet the earth that they claim to honour has been violently raped in the process. When it comes to damaging ancient sites - take a look at any modern archaeological excavation which totally destroys sites. Daft as it may be, hiding a few bits of coloured nonsense in the topsoil of an ancient site is harmless when compared to the damage done by archaeologists, farmers, road makers and developers. I repeat - let's get some perspective on the real issues and try to pursuade people not to CARVE ANYTHING on ancient stones. |
STARMAN
(2004-12-18) | Ok man, take it away
Ummm-hmmm-hm
Whoah-nanananana
Hmmmmm mmmm
Ummm-hmmm-hm-yeah
Ummm-hmmm-hm-yeah
Ummm-hmmm-hm-yeah
Ummm-hmmmmmm
They?re justified and they?re ancient
And they like to roam the land
They?re justified and they?re ancient
I hope you understand
They don?t want to upset the apple cart
And they don?t want to cause any harm
But if you don?t like what they?re going to do
You better not stop them cause they?re coming through
They?re justified and they?re ancient
And they know what time is love
They?re justified and they?re ancient
Did they come from up above?
Rockman he?s just made of bricks
And king boy lost his screws
The jams don?t need no master plan
To do whatever -- ever they can
Ummm-hmmm-hm
Whoah-nanananana, unh huh
All righhht, unh huh
Yeah
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Andy B
(2004-12-18) | Dear me. Good song though- more about the KLF here. |
STARMAN
(2004-12-20) | Hi Andy, as a gesture of good will and a show of appreciation for allowing this page to exist, I would like
to invite you all to Avebury for next years Summer Solstice to turn both Circles. Crytics and sceptics alike can then make their own minds up. Bring drums and plenty of Sage. Children, more the merrier and bring the sick by the coach load.
Happy holidays
111 good wishes to you all
mike
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fwbrown
(2004-12-21) | OK, how about a straight "Yes" or "No" answer: Do you make any markings -- carvings, chalk rubbings, or any other sort of marks -- on the stones? |
STARMAN
(2005-01-16) | Yes! |
mike
(2005-02-12) | Has anyone noticed that Andy Burnham keeps removing my postings? All relevent material to this site yet, he removes it all. Maybe he uses the swastika himself just as Mr Hitler did along with all the other Nazis! |
Andy B
(2005-02-12) | We asked you to move your long posts to the Forum and one photo was removed due to complaints from users. You are going the right way to get yourself barred totally, is that what you want? |
mike
(2005-02-12) | That's entirely up to you Andy. I was not asked to move anything anywhere, why tell lies? You and Teufel have gone out of your way to keep this all one sided. Thank God not everyone is like you two. I would post all the positive responses that have come by way of your site but, what's the point, you'd only delete them. Not understanding what I'm about is your problem. I'm only trying to educate people. Gaet over yourself and give others the opportunity to learn something new out of something very old. There are people such as me who really do have answers to the many questions I read on this and many other sites. Just because you haven't read the many prophecies concerning these times does not give you the right to supress such information. That's what nazis are all about! |
Andy B
(2005-02-12) | Yes we deleted them as you didn't do as we asked and put them in the forum. You're welcome to comment but it's our site and we decide what goes where. |
mike
(2005-02-12) | It makes more sense to me to keep things together. Maybe you just like to confuse folk. How many words qualify for a posting to be redirected to the forum and how exactly do you go about notifying the poster of the changes? Like you said you did with me! As for deleting my picture of Stonehenge daubed with swastikas because one Jewish American took offence simply because of his/her own ignorance of the symbolism is beyond me. Who is ignorant here Andy. Did you understand the picture? |
Stone Guardian
(2005-03-14) | Do what you feel is right Mike - but DO NOT EVER HARM/MARK STONES. You have clearly upset a lot of people on this site (which is mainly full of wonderful, intelligent, thoughtful and caring people) - is that what you want?
I don't believe you have had any positive response to drawing on beautiful stones and killing lichen (my little green friends).
A guardian of many stones |
mike
(2005-03-14) | Intelligent people don't go around threatening others, especially when they do not have the true facts. What part of 'Teufel has lied to you all' don't you understand? Come to Avebury for the solstice, join the queue to beat me senseless if that's what turns you on. I have upset no one here, your own ignorance and fear is what drives you on. Better still, why don't you all come down to the Nine Stones one Sunday and have it out face to face with me. Threats, you make me laugh. |
Andy B
(2005-03-14) | Mike, I'm prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt on the Hellstone carving but you do admit to chalking and marking ancient monuments. This is strongly disapproved of by us and any conservationists I have ever spoken to. I'm not an expert but it's probably an offence under the 1979 act. |
Thorgrim
(2005-03-14) | Mike/Starman/Anon admitted he marked stones on the 16th January 2005 - see his comment above in answer to a direct question from fwbrown. |
mike
(2005-03-14) | Andy, Thorgrim, fwbrown asked: "or any other sort of marks -- on the stones?" According to SamRantz in an earlier posting this is what happens when circles are cast and not closed. She is right, and I am guilty of not closing circles. This is tho' no accident. The trouble is, you all make assumptions based on the very little I give you to play with concerning the truth about my activiyies at stone circles, especially The NineStones.
No body from this site has ever questioned Teufel's silence throughout this chore, prefering to simply believe what you, Andy have obviously approved. It is not my fault, nor my concern that your friend decided to lie to you. Why give me benefit over the Hell Stone and not the Nines? What did Teufel tell you in the first instance about the hell Stone that you are now obviously doubting.
Oh Andy, it was also an offence under the protection from harrasment act 1997 to persue the course of conduct undertaken by you and Your friend:
To pursue a course of conduct on more that two occasions that simple annoys another. Regina Vs Croley October 1998. This was used against me when I exposed corrupt Freemasons in the Dorset Police, Magistracy and the Judiciary. You didn't see me throwing this shit in your face then so don't throw it in mine now. I have no fear of the Law simply because I have no need to break it. If you don't believe in magic, you don't believe in me, simple as that.
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fwbrown
(2005-03-16) | By "marks on the stones" I didn't mean "casting circles" or any other sort of metaphysical activity. I meant physical marks; marks made by bringing an actual physical object into contact with the stones and leaving a visible trace. If you misunderstood the question, I'm sorry, but that, I suspect, is what most people would mean by "marking" stones (or marking anything else). |
(2005-04-03) | "All truth passes through 3 stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
-- Arthur Schopenhauer
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Steve
(2005-10-30) | You do realise that every atom on this planet is equally ancient, since they’ve all been around since the dawning of time, whether it’s a rock from a supposedly ancient site, or a stone in your driveway. These rocks that you worship enough to threaten to take someone’s life over have all been eroded, recycled, melted a thousand times and will be a thousand times in the future. Would you come charging out of your front door wielding a kitchen knife if the postman reversed onto your driveway crushing a piece of gravel? If you find rocks like this interesting then fair enough, but threatening to kill someone over what is really just a collection of minerals is insane. |
Thorgrim
(2005-10-30) | Very true - we and the rocks are all made from star dust, matter cannot be created or destroyed - all is ceaseless change. Err, who is charging out of what door wielding a knife to kill which postman? |
great bear
(2005-12-16) | Well, considering I am one of the very few great bears of the pacific left, I believe that every atom should be worshipped as a god of the sun, although killing people is not right in the eyes of our great god Makashishi |
MrHoot
(2006-03-02) | Amazing what a 'humourous photo' can do isn't it? |
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