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User not Registered |  Posted 18-10-2005 at 21:23
I would like to place a stone in our field. What makes it a standing stone rather than just a stone?
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| Posted 18-10-2005 at 23:15
I would suggest it is simply a stone with 4 charactersistics:
1) it has been set in the ground by hand as opposed to by "nature";
2) it's dimensions are "significant" - perhaps at least 1m (3') in its longest dimension thereby, perhaps, necessitating it being set in the ground so as to hopefully prevent toppling;
3) it's longest dimension is set vertical or near vertical. (The exception to this would be a large boulder whose 3 dimensions are comparable and
4) it has been worked or shaped by hand.
There are doubtless many exceptions which contributors may think of!
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| Posted 19-10-2005 at 00:06
As far as dimensions go we can usually only speak of that which we can see, and quite a few recorded standing stones project less than a meter, albeit usually from a prominence. To be accepted as authentically prehistoric any regularity of appearance must not result from over-straightness of lines and it shall not be darkly coloured like unto a mediaeval gate. An angled top or a bent/bowed shape will do, rather narrower than it is broad, and a goodly covering of lichen (whether patchy or compleat). Thusly I rede.
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User not Registered | Posted 19-10-2005 at 07:52
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On 2005-10-19 00:06, wideford wrote:
and a goodly covering of lichen (whether patchy or compleat). |
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I can supply this in small quantities by post. 50% ***** on Delivery, the remainder payable in 200 years once it has grown to a useful size.
Additionally, I can supply a Star Chart indicating the stone's alignment to Deneb (£25).
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On 2005-10-18 23:15, enkidu41 wrote:
I would suggest it is simply a stone with 4 charactersistics:
1) it has been set in the ground by hand as opposed to by "nature";
2) it's dimensions are "significant" - perhaps at least 1m (3') in its longest dimension thereby, perhaps, necessitating it being set in the ground so as to hopefully prevent toppling;
3) it's longest dimension is set vertical or near vertical. (The exception to this would be a large boulder whose 3 dimensions are comparable and
4) it has been worked or shaped by hand.
There are doubtless many exceptions which contributors may think of!
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thank you, I'm not sure about no. 4 - I rather thought that I would leave it as it is. I'm hoping to get the stone from a local quarry so they may have to shape it to some degree.
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On 2005-10-19 00:06, wideford wrote:
As far as dimensions go we can usually only speak of that which we can see, and quite a few recorded standing stones project less than a meter, albeit usually from a prominence. To be accepted as authentically prehistoric any regularity of appearance must not result from over-straightness of lines and it shall not be darkly coloured like unto a mediaeval gate. An angled top or a bent/bowed shape will do, rather narrower than it is broad, and a goodly covering of lichen (whether patchy or compleat). Thusly I rede.
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thank you - I will keep the top shape in mind
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Anonymous
User not Registered | Posted 19-10-2005 at 12:05
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On 2005-10-19 07:52, Anonymous wrote:
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On 2005-10-19 00:06, wideford wrote:
and a goodly covering of lichen (whether patchy or compleat). |
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I can supply this in small quantities by post. 50% ***** on Delivery, the remainder payable in 200 years once it has grown to a useful size.
Additionally, I can supply a Star Chart indicating the stone's alignment to Deneb (£25).
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thanks for the offer - I'm hoping that it will have a libation at the time and the local lichen will live on it.
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howar
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| Posted 20-10-2005 at 00:00
There have been IIRC good reports of lichen growth after the application of yoghurt.
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| Posted 20-10-2005 at 20:51
It has to fit into the landscape in some way.
My preference is for stones that appear natural at first, but when you look again you see that certain features mirror or compliment visible natural features.
A second choice is to erect a stone that is totally incongruous. Modern stones on roundabouts are a good example.
Finally, the best thing is to set a few stones up and claim they align with some planet that has not yet been discovered. When this information is made public explain that our ancestors came from this planet and that the Planetoids need the stones to land their craft and visit their relatives. Closer investigation will prove you a fraud but in the meantime your cult will be earning you a fortune.
On 2005-10-18 21:23, Anonymous wrote:
I would like to place a stone in our field. What makes it a standing stone rather than just a stone?
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| Posted 21-10-2005 at 10:08
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On 2005-10-18 21:23, Anonymous wrote:
I would like to place a stone in our field. What makes it a standing stone rather than just a stone?
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Must be erected on a Ley.
mike
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| Posted 21-10-2005 at 11:34
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On 2005-10-21 10:08, STARMAN wrote:
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I would like to place a stone in our field. What makes it a standing stone rather than just a stone?
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Must be erected on a Ley.
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However, a bloke in the pub told me that 'leys' can move over time. So you could just place the stone where it is aesthetically pleasing, and a 'ley' will doubtless get close to it at some point 
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Anonymous
User not Registered | Posted 21-10-2005 at 11:36
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Hardly.
That implies a standing stone as YOU see it, not as most people do.
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| Posted 21-10-2005 at 14:11
A "ley" is arable land temporarily sown with grass. So standing stones are rarely to be found on leys. A ley-line is an invented allignment of sites. Coined by Alfed Watkins in his Old Straight Track as trackways and traveller routes and misunderstood by every New Ager ever since.
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On 2005-10-21 14:11, Thorgrim wrote:
A "ley" is arable land temporarily sown with grass. So standing stones are rarely to be found on leys. A ley-line is an invented allignment of sites. Coined by Alfed Watkins in his Old Straight Track as trackways and traveller routes and misunderstood by every New Ager ever since.
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Hi Pete, I just don't understand how folk can so easily dismiss Ley Lines and Sacred Geometry. You baffle me!
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| Posted 21-10-2005 at 14:26
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On 2005-10-21 11:34, DavidRaven wrote:
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I would like to place a stone in our field. What makes it a standing stone rather than just a stone?
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Must be erected on a Ley.
mike
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However, a bloke in the pub told me that 'leys' can move over time. So you could just place the stone where it is aesthetically pleasing, and a 'ley' will doubtless get close to it at some point
Cheers
Dave
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That bloke in the pub was wrong.
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STARMAN
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| Posted 21-10-2005 at 14:27
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On 2005-10-21 11:36, Anonymous wrote:
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Hardly.
That implies a standing stone as YOU see it, not as most people do.
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I think you meant most WESTENERS.
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Anonymous
User not Registered | Posted 21-10-2005 at 16:47
Oh dear, this was such a nice thread. But as happens so often, it's been dragged into agendaworld and the interesting stuff has gone.
Could we have a quota system here? 95% postings from those who think, for instance, that lizards and leylines are garbage, and 5% from the others? That would be about fair.
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| Posted 21-10-2005 at 23:35
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On 2005-10-21 16:47, Anonymous wrote:
Oh dear, this was such a nice thread. But as happens so often, it's been dragged into agendaworld and the interesting stuff has gone.
Could we have a quota system here? 95% postings from those who think, for instance, that lizards and leylines are garbage, and 5% from the others? That would be about fair.
I'd be more impressed if you gave us your name. I have a good idea who you are but, I'd sooner hear it from you. 95% ***** is fine with me but, I'm not impressed with your anonimity. By all means slate me but, do offer something in return.
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Anonymous
User not Registered | Posted 22-10-2005 at 07:31
On 2005-10-21 23:35, STARMAN wrote:
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Prudence.
(Not my name. My motivation).
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Anonymous
User not Registered | Posted 22-10-2005 at 08:56
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On 2005-10-22 07:31, Anonymous wrote:
(Not my name. My motivation).
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Not too confident in yourself or your ideas then?
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