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Andy B
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|  Posted 19-02-2013 at 20:12
As part of our occasional 'welfare reform'* coverage, time for some solidarity with the geologists I think:
Angry geologists tell minister Iain Duncan Smith they are vital after he says supermarket shelf stackers are more 'important'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2280828/Angry-geologists-tell-Iain-Duncan-Smith-ARE-vital-says-supermarket-shelf-stackers-important.html
also some great headlines:
Between a rock and a hard place? Iain Duncan Smith challenged by geologists - The Independent
Geologists erupt after Iain Duncan Smith shelf-stacking jibe [[groan]] - The Guardian
Not to mention museum volunteers:
Graduate's Poundland victory leaves government work schemes in tatters
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/feb/12/graduate-poundland-government-work-schemes
* "I can’t bring myself to call it reform, it’s not making life better for any of the carers or disabled people who I meet." - Carers UK Chief Executive Heléna Herklots
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davidmorgan
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|  Posted 19-02-2013 at 20:17
I sometimes think it would be better for geologists to spend their spare time stacking shelves rather than thinking they're experts in archaeology as well.
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| Posted 19-02-2013 at 20:31
I could say some things about Mr Ian Duncan Smith (IDS) but better not. Perhaps he should spend a week shelf stacking I doubt whether he'd last very long - he'd soon be off back to his big mansion in the country!
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Andy B
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| Posted 19-02-2013 at 20:49
I'm tempted to say we should suspend our ad hominem rule for government ministers 
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| Posted 21-02-2013 at 04:38
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On 2013-02-19 20:17, davidmorgan wrote:
I sometimes think it would be better for geologists to spend their spare time stacking shelves rather than thinking they're experts in archaeology as well.
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there are a great many transferable skills between geology and archaeology. surveying/plotting/mapping/geomorphological study/remote sensing techniques/soil mechanics/hydrology/geophysics (the clue is in the name and the painstaking process of removing fossils from solid rock to name but a few. maybe some people don't actually know what type of experience a good geologist has?
DDx
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| Posted 21-02-2013 at 08:05
Perhaps here on the Megalithic Portal we only encounter the wacky ones...
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/comments.php?op=showreply&tid=49364&sid=10162&pid=49362&thold=#49364
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Andy B
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| Posted 21-02-2013 at 23:13
Rob Ixer is a Geologist and he's far from wacky
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=2146413758
(but I definitely know what you mean!)
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| Posted 22-02-2013 at 01:10
Geologist schmelologist!
Every "ologist" worth his salt is going to argue that ologists from other ologies shouldn't be poking their bit in. And them that's had bits from ologists of other ologies poked into their own ology will object that said bits were poked therein.
Seems quite clear to me
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| Posted 24-02-2013 at 04:33
Oh, I don't know... I thought archaeology is a multidisciplinary field all by itself.
* floral and faunal remains (biology, botany, zoology),
* forensics (anatomy, pathology),
* composition of ceramics (chemistry),
* lithics (petrology and geomorphology)
* survey and mapping (geology and hydrology)
* human interaction (anthropology)
* interpretation of art and artifacts (art history)
* deconstructing technology (engineering and skilled trades: stone, metal, and woodworking; architecture)
not to mention -
* astronomy
- and an additional set of ologies for Historical Archaeology.
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aknifethatfellfromthesky
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| Posted 24-02-2013 at 15:15
i have an earth sciences degree. i wouldn't have put myself in the wacky catergory...anyhow ive no time to debate this further as i'm doing all i can to prepare for the imminent arrival of nibiru/elenin ; )
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aknifethatfellfromthesky
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On 2013-02-24 04:33, bat400 wrote:
Oh, I don't know... I thought archaeology is a multidisciplinary field all by itself.
* floral and faunal remains (biology, botany, zoology),
* forensics (anatomy, pathology),
* composition of ceramics (chemistry),
* lithics (petrology and geomorphology)
* survey and mapping (geology and hydrology)
* human interaction (anthropology)
* interpretation of art and artifacts (art history)
* deconstructing technology (engineering and skilled trades: stone, metal, and woodworking; architecture)
not to mention -
* astronomy
- and an additional set of ologies for Historical Archaeology.
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i agree. the two disciplines share many similarities. ive used fossil extraction techniques, geophysics, surveying and mapping on archaeological digs. ive never had a 'real' archaeologist telling me i don't know what im doing! Dx
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