On 2013-02-04 23:45, AngieLake wrote:
Sem

One thing that might help to 'prove' dowsing works is if there is any recent evidence to show that the 'portals' existed where I dowsed a partner for that large fallen stone.
If you remember, I dowsed a position for the second stone, which was closer to the nearby dry-stone wall, and suggested that it might have been broken up and used in the building of the wall?
As I recall it, the portal pair would have stood on the raised ground between the end of the 'avenue' you discovered [and which I'd dowsed all the way to Y Pigwn], and the circle.
There's no way I'd have known about them, *IF* they existed!

(I can't find a photo of the fallen stone I'm talking about. It would be good if there was one showing it lying on the raised area in contrast to the lower ground of the approach.)

On 2013-02-06 10:37, Andy B wrote:
Going off on a Cropredy inspired tangent here (sorry) http://flickrhivemind.net looks like a very useful find which led me to here and to here (someone we know) and to here - very interesting...

On 2013-02-07 11:46, cerrig wrote:
Popped up to the circles yesterday with some friends, one of whom does a bit of dowsing. Unbeknown to her I took some rods with me and presented them to her on the Roman road, at the point where it opens out onto the open moorland. I informed her there were some stone circles on the moors ( she was unaware of this beforehand ) and it was her task to find them. Being a very game lady off she went, with the rest of us in tow.
The route took in Angies processional way, right to the large fallen menhir to the South East of the circles, from where the circles are visible a short walk away. We spent a little time at the circles, and then, unbidden, this same lady went off again, North Westish. She travelled in a large arc, almost as far as the Roman camp, and then around to the East, down into a dip, and then back South again. This brought her to higher ground, and as she crested the brow it brought her immediately onto Circle 3. She walked along the stones and then around and back to them in a smallish ( maybe 20meter diameter) circle.
I hadn't mentioned these extra stones at all, or given any hint there may have been more to find. There was no input from me to look for anything else, she just felt compelled to find more. I was the only one in the group who had been here before.
The route that this lady took meant that the stones were out of sight until she crested the brow of the small rise they are on.
This doesn't prove anything really, except it wasn't a coincidence, and something was going on that chance alone couldn't explain away. There is lots of moorland here to wander on, the path taken was much the same as Angie took, and there has never been any contact between these 2 explorers.
Dowsing works, but it's mechanics don't seem to conform to our modern reasoning.

I will post some photo's from the trip.

Cerrig

On 2013-02-07 13:50, cerrig wrote:
When I say that "dowsing works" what I mean is; something causes the rods to move, and if you follow this movement it is possible to find things that were'nt known to you. The nitty gritty of that can be argued about of course, and it's reliability and accuracy etc. But it still works, somehow.How else could the same path as Angies be followed by someone with absolutely no prior knowledge of the area, the monuments, Angie Lake or her findings, or even that I had some rods with me. Michelle thought we were just going for a walk.
There's a lot of moorland either side of the road that could have been used, but it wasn't.
cerrig

On 2013-02-07 14:00, tiompan wrote:

Quote:

On 2013-02-07 13:50, cerrig wrote: When I say that "dowsing works" what I mean is; something causes the rods to move, and if you follow this movement it is possible to find things that were'nt known to you. The nitty gritty of that can be argued about of course, and it's reliability and accuracy etc. But it still works, somehow.How else could the same path as Angies be followed by someone with absolutely no prior knowledge of the area, the monuments, Angie Lake or her findings, or even that I had some rods with me. Michelle thought we were just going for a walk. There's a lot of moorland either side of the road that could have been used, but it wasn't. cerrig

People , like sheep , take similar routes , lots of others would have followed the same route as Angie . I don't see how that supports that "dowsing works " or what was discovered that was previously unknow that couldnt' have been discovered by non dowsing means .

George

On 2013-02-07 14:59, aknifethatfellfromthesky wrote:



People , like sheep , take similar routes , lots of others would have followed the same route as Angie . I don't see how that supports that "dowsing works " or what was discovered that was previously unknow that couldnt' have been discovered by non dowsing means .

George