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tiompan
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|  Posted 28-01-2013 at 15:06
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On 2013-01-28 13:51, cropredy wrote:
Tiompan,
Wikipedia is a perfect post to put into this thread.
It is opinion written, it is not any sort of factual content.
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That's the point about facts , if there is anything that is in the Wiki that is wrong then all you have to do is prove it and our knowledge will advance . I look forward to any kind of argument that you might proffer to show the errors in the article .
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cropredy
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| Posted 28-01-2013 at 17:00
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On 2013-01-28 15:06, tiompan wrote:
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On 2013-01-28 13:51, cropredy wrote:
Tiompan,
Wikipedia is a perfect post to put into this thread.
It is opinion written, it is not any sort of factual content.
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That's the point about facts , if there is anything that is in the Wiki that is wrong then all you have to do is prove it and our knowledge will advance . I look forward to any kind of argument that you might proffer to show the errors in the article .
George
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IMHO, it is a waste of time and effort.
Your a believer, thus anything that threatens that belief has to be attacked.
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tiompan
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| Posted 28-01-2013 at 17:27
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On 2013-01-28 17:00, cropredy wrote:
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On 2013-01-28 13:51, cropredy wrote:
Tiompan,
Wikipedia is a perfect post to put into this thread.
It is opinion written, it is not any sort of factual content.
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That's the point about facts , if there is anything that is in the Wiki that is wrong then all you have to do is prove it and our knowledge will advance . I look forward to any kind of argument that you might proffer to show the errors in the article .
George
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IMHO, it is a waste of time and effort.
Your a believer, thus anything that threatens that belief has to be attacked.
cropredy
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Lol .
As was explained in the previous post the point about "facts " are , that if someone gets something wrong it can be refuted . The Wiki pointed out the problems with "torsion fields " if there is anything wrong in the article then for the sake of a better understanding of the subject it is best to point that out , if you can . That way we all advance in our understanding .
Rather than simply posting opinions without support or links to dodgy websites , here was an opportunity for once for you to actually clarify something , but you have declined on spurious name calling grounds . That is the behaviour of "true believers " and a desertion of the spirit of a forum .
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cropredy
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| Posted 28-01-2013 at 17:37
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On 2013-01-28 17:27, tiompan wrote:
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On 2013-01-28 17:00, cropredy wrote:
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On 2013-01-28 15:06, tiompan wrote:
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On 2013-01-28 13:51, cropredy wrote:
Tiompan,
Wikipedia is a perfect post to put into this thread.
It is opinion written, it is not any sort of factual content.
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That's the point about facts , if there is anything that is in the Wiki that is wrong then all you have to do is prove it and our knowledge will advance . I look forward to any kind of argument that you might proffer to show the errors in the article .
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IMHO, it is a waste of time and effort.
Your a believer, thus anything that threatens that belief has to be attacked.
cropredy
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Lol .
As was explained in the previous post the point about "facts " are , that if someone gets something wrong it can be refuted . The Wiki pointed out the problems with "torsion fields " if there is anything wrong in the article then for the sake of a better understanding of the subject it is best to point that out , if you can . That way we all advance in our understanding .
Rather than simply posting opinions without support or links to dodgy websites , here was an opportunity for once for you to actually clarify something , but you have declined on spurious name calling grounds . That is the behaviour of "true believers " and a desertion of the spirit of a forum .
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I could have gone into detail about the faults with You leaky link, but whats the point, Your a zealot.
No mention of shaman and how they interact with time, becuse the writers of the leaky article are co-zealots.
wheres kosyrev??
Those leaky links are all well and good, but they are totally OPINIATED.
Presented as FACTS , but actually opinion.
It is headed in brackets PSEUDOSCIENCE for gawds sake.
The real pseudoscience is einstein garbage, now there was a plonker.
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tiompan
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| Posted 28-01-2013 at 17:55
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On 2013-01-28 17:37, cropredy wrote:
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On 2013-01-28 17:27, tiompan wrote:
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On 2013-01-28 17:00, cropredy wrote:
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On 2013-01-28 15:06, tiompan wrote:
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On 2013-01-28 13:51, cropredy wrote:
Tiompan,
Wikipedia is a perfect post to put into this thread.
It is opinion written, it is not any sort of factual content.
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That's the point about facts , if there is anything that is in the Wiki that is wrong then all you have to do is prove it and our knowledge will advance . I look forward to any kind of argument that you might proffer to show the errors in the article .
George
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IMHO, it is a waste of time and effort.
Your a believer, thus anything that threatens that belief has to be attacked.
cropredy
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Lol .
As was explained in the previous post the point about "facts " are , that if someone gets something wrong it can be refuted . The Wiki pointed out the problems with "torsion fields " if there is anything wrong in the article then for the sake of a better understanding of the subject it is best to point that out , if you can . That way we all advance in our understanding .
Rather than simply posting opinions without support or links to dodgy websites , here was an opportunity for once for you to actually clarify something , but you have declined on spurious name calling grounds . That is the behaviour of "true believers " and a desertion of the spirit of a forum .
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I could have gone into detail about the faults with You leaky link, but whats the point, Your a zealot.
No mention of shaman and how they interact with time, becuse the writers of the leaky article are co-zealots.
wheres kosyrev??
Those leaky links are all well and good, but they are totally OPINIATED.
Presented as FACTS , but actually opinion.
It is headed in brackets PSEUDOSCIENCE for gawds sake.
The real pseudoscience is einstein garbage, now there was a plonker.
cropredy
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Yet another fact free , opinionated waste of space .
The reason for the pseudoscience heading is because that is a fitting description of the content .
No you couldn't have gone into detail .
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cropredy
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| Posted 28-01-2013 at 18:34
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On 2013-01-28 17:37, cropredy wrote:
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On 2013-01-28 17:27, tiompan wrote:
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On 2013-01-28 13:51, cropredy wrote:
Tiompan,
Wikipedia is a perfect post to put into this thread.
It is opinion written, it is not any sort of factual content.
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That's the point about facts , if there is anything that is in the Wiki that is wrong then all you have to do is prove it and our knowledge will advance . I look forward to any kind of argument that you might proffer to show the errors in the article .
George
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IMHO, it is a waste of time and effort.
Your a believer, thus anything that threatens that belief has to be attacked.
cropredy
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Lol .
As was explained in the previous post the point about "facts " are , that if someone gets something wrong it can be refuted . The Wiki pointed out the problems with "torsion fields " if there is anything wrong in the article then for the sake of a better understanding of the subject it is best to point that out , if you can . That way we all advance in our understanding .
Rather than simply posting opinions without support or links to dodgy websites , here was an opportunity for once for you to actually clarify something , but you have declined on spurious name calling grounds . That is the behaviour of "true believers " and a desertion of the spirit of a forum .
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I could have gone into detail about the faults with You leaky link, but whats the point, Your a zealot.
No mention of shaman and how they interact with time, becuse the writers of the leaky article are co-zealots.
wheres kosyrev??
Those leaky links are all well and good, but they are totally OPINIATED.
Presented as FACTS , but actually opinion.
It is headed in brackets PSEUDOSCIENCE for gawds sake.
The real pseudoscience is einstein garbage, now there was a plonker.
cropredy
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Yet another fact free , opinionated waste of space .
The reason for the pseudoscience heading is because that is a fitting description of the content .
No you couldn't have gone into detail .
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This is where the game of tennis was invented.
ping pong.
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| Posted 28-01-2013 at 19:11
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On 2013-01-28 09:58, Runemage wrote:
The M.Krinker patented device can supposedly record SEV 's if that is the case and he is also correct that what dowsers detect is also SEV 's then we have some means of testing to see if there is at least a correlation between the the findings of the device and dowsing .
So where are they available from, how much are they and how are they used?
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There is I think an e mail near the top and a link to the US patent office at the very bottom.
There are various gaussmeters, Teslameters, ELF, RF etc simply by googling.
I have mucked about with a Teslameter mobile fone app in the past.
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Andy B
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| Posted 28-01-2013 at 20:29
Just as a general point could you all try not to 're quote' too many times. More than 3 nested quotes and things don't display properly. Plus it makes for loads of repeated material to wade through. Could you all try and edit the quotes down a bit.
Just plain Reply (without quote) can be your friend as well!
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| Posted 29-01-2013 at 03:09
Ah, all is quiet on the threads of the web of wierd now the full moon is past and the entrainment frequencies ebb away, conjecture, anecdotal, insight? Whom who's opinion is not subjective will answer for the sceptics?
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| Posted 29-01-2013 at 09:00
The belief that the full moon effects people making them behave more outrageously/oddly is centuaries old and hotly debated. Various surveys support one side of the arguement or the other, each opposing view siezing the supporting survey with almost religious zeal.
It is really a classic dowser/sceptic arguement, obvious to one side but not the other but it does appear to sit rather well with the brainwave entrainment theory (I suppose that was enchantment in the past).
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| Posted 29-01-2013 at 09:18
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On 2013-01-29 09:00, rogeralbin wrote:
The belief that the full moon effects people making them behave more outrageously/oddly is centuaries old and hotly debated. Various surveys support one side of the arguement or the other, each opposing view siezing the supporting survey with almost religious zeal.
It is really a classic dowser/sceptic arguement, obvious to one side but not the other but it does appear to sit rather well with the brainwave entrainment theory (I suppose that was enchantment in the past).
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There is some data that can be checked in relation to the full moon idea . It doesn't look like that the emergency services police /hospitals note any change .
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| Posted 29-01-2013 at 11:40
IMHO,
And as I detect,
It is when the moon is side on that it has the most effect.
When the moon is full or new it is merely causing a slight alteration in the two fields of the sun and Earth .
When it is side on it makes the most difference.
It was the moon that gave Me the most clues as it has 13(26) such events each year, whereas the equinox and solstices are less frequent.
I noted how when the moon was at quadreture that the flows I detect varied most, they actually stop and often reverse as the moon sits side on, I liken it to a shadow moving along.
This is when the vortex points of implosion and emmitance reverse.
Those vortex points are sited in the chambers of long barrows, and what I am certain of is that the human remains were placed exactly upon that vortical point, and when a reversal occured is when they considered that the soul as such came back out of the location where it had sank into whilst stood for two weeks on that point.
At that moment is when the quartz plug blocking off the enterance hole was removed( and it may well have glowed at this moment as the magnetic flows cause a stress on the quartz)
If an already impregnated female was then located in direct line of this I consider they considered that the deceased soul jumped into the new forming vehicle( body)
Reincarnation .
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| Posted 29-01-2013 at 12:46
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On 2013-01-27 19:44, cropredy wrote:
Have just watched this,
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/time-team/4od#3469998
A set of brainwashed murderers digging up bodies.
Nowhere was there any attempt at working out WHY chalk, why was the mound origonally made of chalk.
No all they could do was concentrate upon concrete EVIDENCE of bodies.
Typical garbage of trying to FIT current thinking onto a former knowledge.
They set off with saying it was a mound of EARTH....garbage.
They hardly put any effort into the geometry, the dimensions of 5the mound, all effort was directed towards EVIDENCE, findable artifacts to FIT their ASSUMPTION based crap.
I hope I have conveyed My utter contempt at these buffoons destroying the very fabric and reason for the mound????
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Hi All
Its so nice to see non-judgemental, open minded liberal views expressed without any shouting or offensive language.
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| Posted 29-01-2013 at 12:49
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On 2013-01-29 11:40, cropredy wrote:
IMHO,
And as I detect,
It is when the moon is side on that it has the most effect.
When the moon is full or new it is merely causing a slight alteration in the two fields of the sun and Earth .
When it is side on it makes the most difference.
It was the moon that gave Me the most clues as it has 13(26) such events each year, whereas the equinox and solstices are less frequent.
I noted how when the moon was at quadreture that the flows I detect varied most, they actually stop and often reverse as the moon sits side on, I liken it to a shadow moving along.
This is when the vortex points of implosion and emmitance reverse.
Those vortex points are sited in the chambers of long barrows, and what I am certain of is that the human remains were placed exactly upon that vortical point, and when a reversal occured is when they considered that the soul as such came back out of the location where it had sank into whilst stood for two weeks on that point.
At that moment is when the quartz plug blocking off the enterance hole was removed( and it may well have glowed at this moment as the magnetic flows cause a stress on the quartz)
If an already impregnated female was then located in direct line of this I consider they considered that the deceased soul jumped into the new forming vehicle( body)
Reincarnation .
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Kev.
In your opinion if there is a passage mound constructed to allow the Sun half an hour after dawn to shine directly through the entrance down the shaft and project a pin hole camera image of itself (the Sun) onto the rear wall on a given day (equinox for example).
At the same time on the same bearing as the Sun a mile or so to the east of the passage mound are a group/circle of standing stones.
All three passage mound/Sun and standing stones in line at a fixed moment in time what is the purpose?
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| Posted 29-01-2013 at 13:03
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There is some data that can be checked in relation to the full moon idea . It doesn't look like that the emergency services police /hospitals note any change .
George
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From time to time differing results are published in the media, however a substantial number of Doormen/A&E nurses/Police/Taxi drivers/Bar staff etc particularly those employed late night would support the Moon effect.
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| Posted 29-01-2013 at 13:15
Karloff,
I held back in what I thought of that awfull program.
I am surprised there is anything left on salisbury plain after all the tank activitey on there by our heroic soldiers blowing up all of the archaeology.
It was My opinion, You no doubt have Your opinion, nowhere was there any offensive language used, unless brainwashed murderers , my description of what soldiers are is considered by you so?
You are most welcome to Your opinion, have a nice day.
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| Posted 29-01-2013 at 13:21
Rogeralbin,
I totally doubt any mound was aligned with any visual intent at all.
The possible and probable reasoning of the stone circle relationship to the barrow is where the circle is a device to upgrade the flow into the barrow.
We witness the end construction of what will have been a continuous altering construction, imho.
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| Posted 29-01-2013 at 13:59
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On 2013-01-29 13:15, cropredy wrote:
Karloff,
I held back in what I thought of that awfull program.
I am surprised there is anything left on salisbury plain after all the tank activitey on there by our heroic soldiers blowing up all of the archaeology.
It was My opinion, You no doubt have Your opinion, nowhere was there any offensive language used, unless brainwashed murderers , my description of what soldiers are is considered by you so?
You are most welcome to Your opinion, have a nice day.
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Hi
And of course your sterling work in protecting, promoting and preserving our heritage is widely acknowledged as is your willingness to accept diverse opinions your love of literature and your calm and collected posts.
[ This message was edited by: karloff on 2013-01-29 14:04 ]
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There is some data that can be checked in relation to the full moon idea . It doesn't look like that the emergency services police /hospitals note any change .
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From time to time differing results are published in the media, however a substantial number of Doormen/A&E nurses/Police/Taxi drivers/Bar staff etc particularly those employed late night would support the Moon effect.
Rog
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It's a classic response of anyone who works with the pesky "public " but it is not supported by the data we do have .
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| Posted 29-01-2013 at 16:34
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On 2013-01-29 13:59, karloff wrote:
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On 2013-01-29 13:15, cropredy wrote:
Karloff,
I held back in what I thought of that awfull program.
I am surprised there is anything left on salisbury plain after all the tank activitey on there by our heroic soldiers blowing up all of the archaeology.
It was My opinion, You no doubt have Your opinion, nowhere was there any offensive language used, unless brainwashed murderers , my description of what soldiers are is considered by you so?
You are most welcome to Your opinion, have a nice day.
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Hi
And of course your sterling work in protecting, promoting and preserving our heritage is widely acknowledged as is your willingness to accept diverse opinions your love of literature and your calm and collected posts.
[ This message was edited by: karloff on 2013-01-29 14:04 ]
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If instead of been combatative at every opportunity, You actually listened to what I am with great difficulty trying to convey, then the future of the megaliths would be assured, instead of been bulldozed and destroyed constantly.
But Your super EGO is too powerfull to ever let such occur.
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