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Runemage

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| Posted 19-01-2013 at 14:18  
Kevin's raised a good point about using IMHO in posts to remove any perception of offence and any perception that a post is stating accepted fact as opposed to only one person's opinion.
Looking through a few threads, it seems that almost every post would need an IMHO in it, as that's mostly what we do, we read something and reply to it stating our own opinion. If we want to say other people agree with our subject, then we add support using quotes and links etc.
Would it be feasible to assume the IMHO in every post unless stated otherwise? Or are there types of posts where it should be clearly stated?
Your thoughts please, everyone,
Rune
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tiompan

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| Posted 19-01-2013 at 15:28  
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On 2013-01-19 14:18, Runemage wrote:
Kevin's raised a good point about using IMHO in posts to remove any perception of offence and any perception that a post is stating accepted fact as opposed to only one person's opinion.
Looking through a few threads, it seems that almost every post would need an IMHO in it, as that's mostly what we do, we read something and reply to it stating our own opinion. If we want to say other people agree with our subject, then we add support using quotes and links etc.
Would it be feasible to assume the IMHO in every post unless stated otherwise? Or are there types of posts where it should be clearly stated?
Your thoughts please, everyone,
Rune
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It easily becomes debased and is little better than the oleaginous "with respect " i.e. you can preface any rudeness you like with it , making the rudeness acceptable . Better to be plain spoken and not rude .
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Feanor

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| Posted 19-01-2013 at 16:20  
It's about context.
"This rock consists of the following elements."
It's difficult to dispute that.
"Magic Rays from the Moon influenced an entire culture for many generations."
Well, the smart move here is bringing some evidence to the table, because we'll all be breathlessly lurched over our keyboards, ready to pounce.
In the 'Mysteries Forum' it's almost a given that these are opinions, so some latitude is naturally bestowed.
In the 'Stones Forum' you can rightfully get spanked, (and don't I know it!) unless you qualify the remarks.
Those who frequently participate in discussions on the MP have a sense of others' personality. From relentlessly dry, fact-based pronouncements, or ridiculously long, breezy essays with oddly-placed Capital Letters, to arcane, confusing rambles, all the way to straight-up humor - our internal translator makes the necessary adjustments.
All who have a even a modicum of Internet Experience are aware that editorial self-policing comes with the turf.
But, as is endlessly evident, Newbies must be alerted case-by-case.
This is why we have Moderators.
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cropredy

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| Posted 19-01-2013 at 17:47  
On several other forums I use the name hobbit, thus I use IMHO a lot.
I am weary of this constant garbage, if it was up in the stones section then fairy snuff.
But it appears as though no matter where anyone talks about dowsing this said as FACT barrage saying nobody cares about rods moving ..blah, blah, blah.
IMHO,
Many care, and are interested, a majority are skeptical.
I doubt totally any relativity to the suns location as it never stops moving, and just what part of a disc is supposed to be aligned, and how on earth does light supposedly beam in a straight line from a sphere?
, but I don't bombard every thread with comments about how skeptical of any of the alignment business that others hold such store in, as I respect their BELIEFS.
IMHO ,
the megalithic structures have diddly squat at all to do with anything visual, and the attempts to find none existant alignments are by the vast majority of limited senses humans that cannot percieve of having extra senses, and can do nothing but complain about those who have mastered extra senses, the never ending DEMANDS for PROOF that fits their limited senses is tedious and sickening.
Perhaps it is designed to be????
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Runemage

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| Posted 19-01-2013 at 20:44  
Now I'm confused, Kevin.
IMHO is a common abbreviation, understood all over the internet to mean In My Humble Opinion
On several other forums I use the name hobbit, thus I use IMHO a lot.
So are you saying you use IMHO to mean In My Hobbit Opinion, which means something different?
Rune
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davidmorgan

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| Posted 19-01-2013 at 21:21  
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Now I'm confused, Kevin.
IMHO is a common abbreviation, understood all over the internet to mean In My Humble Opinion |
| I always thought that the H was for Honest. Humble sounds a bit like Wormtongue to me.
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cropredy

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| Posted 19-01-2013 at 21:22  
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On 2013-01-19 20:44, Runemage wrote:
Now I'm confused, Kevin.
IMHO is a common abbreviation, understood all over the internet to mean In My Humble Opinion
On several other forums I use the name hobbit, thus I use IMHO a lot.
So are you saying you use IMHO to mean In My Hobbit Opinion, which means something different?
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No,
I am a humble hobbit.
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Runemage

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| Posted 19-01-2013 at 23:08  
The top three Google hits.
http://www.acronymfinder.com/IMHO.html
http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/IMHO
http://www.internetslang.com/IMHO-meaning-definition.asp
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On 2013-01-19 21:21, davidmorgan wrote:
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Now I'm confused, Kevin.
IMHO is a common abbreviation, understood all over the internet to mean In My Humble Opinion |
| I always thought that the H was for Honest. Humble sounds a bit like Wormtongue to me.
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sem

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| Posted 20-01-2013 at 13:33  
Hi Rune
From your link http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/IMHO I like the "Is My Hearing Aid On" the best.
This would certainly explain some of the weirder discussions down here!
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aknifethatfellfromthesky

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| Posted 20-01-2013 at 18:42  
i think its very necessary to protect oneselves against unmerited attacks because some people just love an argument, they are obtuse, pithy, pedantic and deliberately difficult...i haven't tended to come across this myself on this particular forum but ive read posts where two people are going at each other hammer and tongue...no thanks..i don't want that. im for politeness and tolerence and respect. love and peace. Dx
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cropredy

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| Posted 22-01-2013 at 11:55  
Tiompan,
Instead of filling threads with conjecture about dowsing....IMHO...it would be better to keep to threads specific about it.
The real nature and design criteria of the megaliths is totally to do with what is detectable.
Ask Uri Geller about finding things.
http://www.uri-geller.com/mine.htm
At one time I was totally focussed upon water and pipes, and found countless with dowsing.
Now I try to stay focussed upon what is clearly( to Me) the very reason for the megaliths and later norman churches locations and designs.
Perhaps I should begin to focus on gold????
And carry a shovel with Me each visit to each megalithic site???
Nigel will be happy....not.
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tiompan

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| Posted 22-01-2013 at 13:10  
True , it would be great to see the end of conjecture about dowsing .That is all we get , never anything to support the claims . The rods move and the conjecture starts with nothing to support it . At least in the past it was mainly water and minerals , but since the mid 20 th C it is earth energies . What better cover could you have , how do provide evidence of something that only the dowser is aware of ? If there is some conection between megalithic ites and what dowsers claim to find why have they failed to find any of these previusly unrecorded sites ,? non dowsers seem to do it easily enough .
Are you seriously suggesting that we should accept the word of Uri Geller , you'll be telling us next Derren Brown can communicate with spirits and foretell the future .
It's very simple , all you have to do for sceptics to accept extraordinary claims is to provide evidence in controlled conditions .
Dowsers have tried many times and have never succeeded , doesn't that tell us something ?
I'm sure you claimed previously that you could find gold by dowsing , do that in a controlled experiment , whether the gold was hidden or previously unrecorded and we will all be happy for you .
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cropredy

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| Posted 22-01-2013 at 13:38  
Tiompan,
"What better cover could You have"
Again stated in a fact like manner and offensive.
You are suggesting deciet and lies.
Geller owns lamb doesn't He?
He is of the opinion that the three islands there display a similarity to the layout of the giza pyramids, I can comprehend the same geometry creating multiple such locations around the globe, and there been powerfull vortex points involved....maybe king Authur knew?
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cropredy

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| Posted 22-01-2013 at 13:42  
http://site.uri-geller.com/why_i_bought_lamb_island
Maybe if I dug up Aurthur????
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tiompan

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| Posted 22-01-2013 at 14:10  
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On 2013-01-22 13:38, cropredy wrote:
Tiompan,
"What better cover could You have"
Again stated in a fact like manner and offensive.
You are suggesting deciet and lies.
Geller owns lamb doesn't He?
cropredy
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There were other statements , ignored , and like the quote not addressed .
Just as you seem to believe that the movement of rods means that is something to do with "earth energies " and fail to consider anything else ,what was being suggested might be more than just "lies and deceit " see if you can think of anything (deceit might be closer than you think ), if not , do say ,on both points , and then I'll tell you some other possible explanations .
Geller might find yet "treasure " but not necessarily of the "worldly " kind wooo. If there is anything of archaeological interst to be found he's hardly the best candidate to find it . Aprt from being three in a row the arrangement of the three islands are not like Giza , have you seen them ?
George
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cropredy

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| Posted 22-01-2013 at 14:20  
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On 2013-01-22 14:10, tiompan wrote:
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On 2013-01-22 13:38, cropredy wrote:
Tiompan,
"What better cover could You have"
Again stated in a fact like manner and offensive.
You are suggesting deciet and lies.
Geller owns lamb doesn't He?
cropredy
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There were other statements , ignored , and like the quote not addressed .
Just as you seem to believe that the movement of rods means that is something to do with "earth energies " and fail to consider anything else ,what was being suggested might be more than just "lies and deceit " see if you can think of anything (deceit might be closer than you think ), if not , do say ,on both points , and then I'll tell you some other possible explanations .
Geller might find yet "treasure " but not necessarily of the "worldly " kind wooo. If there is anything of archaeological interst to be found he's hardly the best candidate to find it . Aprt from being three in a row the arrangement of the three islands are not like Giza , have you seen them ?
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http://www.mythomorph.com/wp/the-pyramids-of-scotland/
I don't have the opinion that My rods moving are to do with earth energies, they are to do with universe, the substance it is composed of, and the force in duality that creates and dissolves all in differing dimensions.
You have for years done nothing other than consider I am decieving, I am not, I am divining.
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Runemage

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| Posted 22-01-2013 at 14:35  
True , it would be great to see the end of conjecture about dowsing .
Can we all agree on one thing? Evidence of dowsing's efficacy is not going to be proven on any internet discussion board. Ever.
It needs to be done as a series of controlled experiments and until such time in the future as that is undertaken in a fair manner by people who are willing to participate, then there will be no change in the stance that people take here.
Our forums need to be free of this endless, pointless, circular debate which does nothing but subvert threads, foster ill-feeling and turn away prospective posters, that is the ones who have not died of boredom wading through it all.
We need to move on from this stalemate situation.
Rune
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tiompan

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| Posted 22-01-2013 at 14:46  
I asked if you had seen the islands , you didn't reply but linked to a dodgy web site about templars and drawing lines on GE .
Look at the islands their relationship , size and orientation then look at the Giza pyramids .
George
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cropredy

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| Posted 22-01-2013 at 15:10  
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On 2013-01-22 14:35, Runemage wrote:
True , it would be great to see the end of conjecture about dowsing .
Can we all agree on one thing? Evidence of dowsing's efficacy is not going to be proven on any internet discussion board. Ever.
It needs to be done as a series of controlled experiments and until such time in the future as that is undertaken in a fair manner by people who are willing to participate, then there will be no change in the stance that people take here. forums need to be free of this endless, pointless, circular debate which does nothing but subvert threads, foster ill-feeling and turn away prospective posters, that is the ones who have not died of boredom wading through it all.
We need to move on from this stalemate situation.
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First off,
Sorry.
That is for My recent rant at You which was silly on My part.
IMHO looking at it, I was a plonker.
This section of the portals forum is set aside for alternate ideas where those who dowse or hug stones etc etc etc are asked to sort of reside in.
I do, if Anew had put His recent thread in the stones section, My feet would not have troden on such hallowed ground where stones are stones and nothing more.
Dowsing is in itself highly frustrating due to the inability yet to bridge across into the 3D physical reality, until such a time it is opinion, thus Yes I use that term a lot, and it amuses Me to think of it as ...in my hobbit opinion....been a hobbit as I am.
Anew is well used to Me adding in My opinion of whatever thread He creates, and He is sort of 90% in the physical camp, but 10% listens to My opinions.
As You know I too keep leaving this forum, that is because of the constant fact like suggestions of deceit etc.
Perhaps I will give out some medicine of a similer nature to those who waffle their opinions about never stopping stars and planets etc and ascribing fact like reasons to such as to the locations of megaliths???
Such as:-
Which point on the sun as it rises( to the observer) at an angle is an alignment, and for what fraction of a second can it possibly remain such?
And what if light is not travelling in straight lines??
IMHO it doesn't travel at all.
I could ask for proof in continuum, and thus disrupt every thread.
I don't because it's sickening....I know.
And it is the symbiotic interactions of fields that create light, and determine location and design of local constructions.
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cropredy

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| Posted 22-01-2013 at 15:14  
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On 2013-01-22 14:46, tiompan wrote:
I asked if you had seen the islands , you didn't reply but linked to a dodgy web site about templars and drawing lines on GE .
Look at the islands their relationship , size and orientation then look at the Giza pyramids .
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I haven't seen those islands.
"dodgy" is Your opinion.
It is others opinion and intersts that consider that a similarity exists, not mine.
Uri Geller felt such a strong feeling related to lamb that He bought the place.
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