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cropredy
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|  Posted 13-01-2013 at 18:59
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On 2013-01-13 18:50, doodlebug wrote:
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On 2013-01-13 18:07, cropredy wrote:
The church is designed to locally fit these variable geometries, and the cathedrals are sited where the number of polygons is in the dozens. |
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In Lithuania even the public toilets fit the variable geometries.
Hence the olle saying "What I cannot see i can easy pee".
It meaning, I can see the flow of energy wif ease. Excuse the translution, its from software.
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Welcome.....great name.
The geometry is scalar.....I have tried My best to always adhere to the most dominant and universal .
I cannot check if the public toilets here are on a certain geometry, as they have demolished nearly all of them.
To pee or not to pee..that is the question.
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| Posted 13-01-2013 at 19:24
Because you , Underwood and others , including dowsing sceptics , find that rods move in particular patterns doesn’t mean that the reason that they move has anything to do with “subtle energies “ or bears any relation to placement of megalithic sites .
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George,please,go to page http://www.geopathfinder.com/9442.html ,there is,in note "Latest news (12/08/2011)", link to pdf. containing some of my drawings.Drawing no.3 shows lines around stone row (17m long).If it looks like an accident?No connection?
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| Posted 13-01-2013 at 19:42
Dowser , yes it's the same type of patterns reported by Underwood and others , including sceptics , it's waht you find when peiple record what they do when holding dowsing rods and they start to move .These patterns are not only found at standing stones or prehistoric sites , but anywhere ,although those that claim that they are associated with "subtle energies " and the placement of megaliths tend to confine their dowsing to these type of sites . Also in the pdf the comment "Did humans base their structures on these found energy patterns or did the energy form in response to a built structure? Is a start on a less restricted view of possible explanation .
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On 2013-01-13 19:24, Dowser wrote:
Because you , Underwood and others , including dowsing sceptics , find that rods move in particular patterns doesn’t mean that the reason that they move has anything to do with “subtle energies “ or bears any relation to placement of megalithic sites .
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George,please,go to page http://www.geopathfinder.com/9442.html ,there is,in note "Latest news (12/08/2011)", link to pdf. containing some of my drawings.Drawing no.3 shows lines around stone row (17m long).If it looks like an accident?No connection?
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| Posted 13-01-2013 at 20:00
"Did humans base their structures on these found energy patterns or did the energy form in response to a built structure? Is a start on a less restricted view of possible explanation .
George
1) I think that these found energy patterns was primary.
2)BUT :I was searching if presence/absence of stone change pattern of line?With answer-yes,but not at stone level,but over stone.Different kind of stone changed lines in different way.So,maybe our ancestors were forming these lines for some reason? I don't know...yet.
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| Posted 13-01-2013 at 20:00
[ This message was edited by: Dowser on 2013-01-13 20:02 ]
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On 2013-01-13 19:24, Dowser wrote:
Because you , Underwood and others , including dowsing sceptics , find that rods move in particular patterns doesn’t mean that the reason that they move has anything to do with “subtle energies “ or bears any relation to placement of megalithic sites .
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George,please,go to page http://www.geopathfinder.com/9442.html ,there is,in note "Latest news (12/08/2011)", link to pdf. containing some of my drawings.Drawing no.3 shows lines around stone row (17m long).If it looks like an accident?No connection?
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Your circuler human AURA.
I detect this as been variable.
Youngsters have such outer fields of upto 50/60 feet radius, whilst as humans age this reduces, when it reaches aprox 3 feet dementia and alzhiemers are commonly noted.
I find the seven chakras as been PINCH points where the pole of the human is entwined by two opposite spin serpent like whorls.
When I switch thinking to how the AURA is moving, I find that above Equator level ( hips)
that in the northern hemisphere the flow is west to east, vise versa in the southern hemisphere.
By using really fine wire rods I can trace these whorls as entering in/out of the poles.
I have ultra fine carbon fibre rods for such.
The overall complexity of the human aura field is beyond words, but I have practised on thousands upon thousands of people who don't have a clue what I am thinking of.
Without a fairly constant supply of this duality IMHO We are like a car with a flat battery, and the car begins to stress and not function.
In past times when one half, or both flows were far lower our ancestors locally uprated their localities , We have our very existance to thank those who laboured so hard for our presnt existance.
It appears as though many of ourselves are remembering????
Perhaps We need to??
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| Posted 13-01-2013 at 20:16
Without a fairly constant supply of this duality IMHO We are like a car with a flat battery, and the car begins to stress and not function.--------
-------------I think you are right.But we don't know rules,how it works.
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On 2013-01-13 20:00, Dowser wrote:
"Did humans base their structures on these found energy patterns or did the energy form in response to a built structure? Is a start on a less restricted view of possible explanation .
George
1) I think that these found energy patterns was primary.
2)BUT :I was searching if presence/absence of stone change pattern of line?With answer-yes,but not at stone level,but over stone.Different kind of stone changed lines in different way.So,maybe our ancestors were forming these lines for some reason? I don't know...yet.
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The same patterns are discovered without stones .
There are many possible explanations , with "earth energies " and cause of placement of megalithic monuments one of the least parsimonious .
George
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| Posted 13-01-2013 at 20:31
The same patterns are discovered without stones .---------
Of course,I know that.So what?
There are many possible explanations --------
-----Yes,but only one is true...that what I'm searching for.
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| Posted 13-01-2013 at 21:36
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On 2013-01-13 20:16, Dowser wrote:
Without a fairly constant supply of this duality IMHO We are like a car with a flat battery, and the car begins to stress and not function.--------
-------------I think you are right.But we don't know rules,how it works.
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By better comprehending as many similarities involved, then perhaps We can fit the puzzle in place?
IMHO,
The flows are information based, they both enable life, and then sustain that life relative to the encoded basis of the created.
Thus as humans We have an eternal self that contains the information of human life, when seeded and fertilised it is supplemented by the flows to reach it's optimum.
The Aura is those flows that are supplied from universe down in a scalar circluler fashion that relies on spiral vortices and always attraction of the opposite.
We are electrical beings that are occupying these vehicles on a temporary basis to experience whatever.
IMHO our ancestors were well aware of this method of creation, and built locally iin precise local locations to FIT the FIXED geometry to better interact with this system .
Knowing it's basis would drive them to enormous efforts in times of great balance needs, that balance been the duality of flows that basically powers life and the heart in particuler.
The whole system is of creation and dissolvement, where the living become part of an increasing diameter planet, the compression becoming stone.
The compression is via the contant implosion over emmitance, whereas the stars are in reverse of this giving back out long past super compression.
The really difficult part to accept is that universe is a super dense and perfectly packed substance, and all of creation is memory based, thus nothing is moving as such, but all so called movement is displacement of memory within a fixed super geometrical geometry of a matrix.
Light and heat variations are consequences of large memory fields symbiotically interacting, and causing cross over between dimensions which are all on different faces of the packed substance of universe.
As told to Myself, by Myself, but a different dimension of Myself, the Me here is fairly simple.
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| Posted 13-01-2013 at 23:34
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On 2013-01-13 20:31, Dowser wrote:
The same patterns are discovered without stones .---------
Of course,I know that.So what?
There are many possible explanations --------
-----Yes,but only one is true...that what I'm searching for.
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Because you seem to be only concerned with the associations of these patterns with megaliths , as in these comments .
“I think the megalithic structures were built according to the local course of the force lines of this odd field and did not have anything to do with astronomy” and
“just find these lines around megalithic structure,then it is easy seen. “
I assume you have spent some time searching , maybe if you looked at the broader picture and didn’t confine the search to a prehistoric /megalith explanations other possibilities might present themselves .
The patterns are found at prehistoric sites and non prehistoric sites . Dowsers don't find prehistoric sites only the patterns .A good example is in the Underwood book he , he visits the end of the Avenue at West Amesbury and is only concerned with discussing aquastats when he misses , as they always do , the site of the henge and possible stone circle now known as Bluestonehenge .
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| Posted 13-01-2013 at 23:52
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On 2013-01-13 20:31, Dowser wrote:
The same patterns are discovered without stones .---------
Of course,I know that.So what?
There are many possible explanations --------
-----Yes,but only one is true...that what I'm searching for.
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Because you seem to be only concerned with the associations of these patterns with megaliths , as in these comments .
“I think the megalithic structures were built according to the local course of the force lines of this odd field and did not have anything to do with astronomy” and
“just find these lines around megalithic structure,then it is easy seen. “
I assume you have spent some time searching , maybe if you looked at the broader picture and didn’t confine the search to a prehistoric /megalith explanations other possibilities might present themselves .
The patterns are found at prehistoric sites and non prehistoric sites . Dowsers don't find prehistoric sites only the patterns .A good example is in the Underwood book he , he visits the end of the Avenue at West Amesbury and is only concerned with discussing aquastats when he misses , as they always do , the site of the henge and possible stone circle now known as Bluestonehenge .
George
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Tiompan,
At some point You are going to comprehend something about dowsing....I hope.
When dowsing You concentrate upon a specific...if I were looking for a stream of water I would be locked onto the recognition of what a stream of water is, I may walk right over a roman camp, a neolithic henge, a beat up old ford cortina.
It is not the same broad over view as that of visual.
That is why I stay as focussed as possible on what is clearly dominant to the construction of megaliths and later norman churchs.
Water does react in its own way to the universal system I concentrate on.
I can very easily switch onto water streams, and would match what underwood was concentrating on, but I don't.
When I go to megalithic sites and norman churches I do often switch thinking to locate where I would locate the font etc, or where a well should be, I was brought up on such and finding pipes and drains etc.
There are ever so many things underground, but it is not things I focus upon, hence I am not interested in going and finding buried buckets like some buffoons labour on about.
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"Dowsers don't find prehistoric sites only the patterns"
Don't archaeologists do exactly that ...until my ever-decreasing support (ie income+/-tax) forces them to look for other ways to expand their theories?
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Don't you realise that most people who have problems with the claims of dowsing in relation to arcaheology have tried dowsing . The rods move , you record it ,try the same thing at the same place but later , and the rods don't correspond to the original movement or they don't correspond to what others find at the same spot .
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Just an observation on this comment, telluric flows are time variable and will vary by day,night,month,season, year etc, to dismiss it as unrepeatable after retrail of some random time period is likely to be simplistic in the extreme.
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Archaeologists don't find the patterns very often but they do find prehistoric sites that have never been previously recorded , all the time, sometimes on a large scale , e.g. the Ness of Brodgar where anyone could have guessed at the area having some sort of of prehistoric activity yet dowsers , as always , never suggested anything despite the the area being covered in their beloved walls . Amateurs find rock art at no cost to the tax payer , anyone can , but dowsers don't , is there a reason for this ?
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On 2013-01-14 00:06, sem wrote:
"Dowsers don't find prehistoric sites only the patterns"
Don't archaeologists do exactly that ...until my ever-decreasing support (ie income+/-tax) forces them to look for other ways to expand their theories?
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On 2013-01-06 17:44, tiompan wrote:
Don't you realise that most people who have problems with the claims of dowsing in relation to arcaheology have tried dowsing . The rods move , you record it ,try the same thing at the same place but later , and the rods don't correspond to the original movement or they don't correspond to what others find at the same spot .
George
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George,
Just an observation on this comment, telluric flows are time variable and will vary by day,night,month,season, year etc, to dismiss it as unrepeatable after retrail of some random time period is likely to be simplistic in the extreme.
Rog
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Roger , dowsers claim to find the same results indicating a non -random influence but they also claim that the influence can be variable and non repeatable .In the first case it should be repeatable under test conditions ,this doesn't happen . In the second case there can be no repeatable test and we can only wonder at the cause . From random movements of rods we are given fantastical explanations with no supporting evidence and when simpler explanations are available . Telluric currents are recordable but we don't find dowsers producing the same results of the recordings .
George
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| Posted 14-01-2013 at 10:20
e.g. the Ness of Brodgar where anyone could have guessed at the area having some sort of of prehistoric activity
I don't think that's a fair example, George. The Ness is on private land so no-one would have been wandering over there with rods to find anything in the first place. Also, considering there are standing stones in at least one of the houses' front gardens leading to the Ness, it was obvious to all but the blind that there was some sort of 'avenue' leading from the causeway to 'something' between it and Brodgar. Orkney is literally full of Neolithic sites, I'm pretty sure you could stick a pin in a map and dig there and find something.
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When dowsing You concentrate upon a specific...if I were looking for a stream of water I would be locked onto the recognition of what a stream of water is, I may walk right over a roman camp, a neolithic henge, a beat up old ford cortina.
There are ever so many things underground, but it is not things I focus upon, hence I am not interested in going and finding buried buckets like some buffoons labour on about.
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Lethbridge claimed his pendulum "rates" could distinguish between different elements and even concepts . As can be imagined this was never proven .
Similarly you continue to make your tiresome claims with nothing to support them . If you can't or won't demonstrate these "abilities " then don't expect anything other than incredulity from the majority .
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| Posted 14-01-2013 at 11:01
There is some mix of two questions in our discuss,I'm afraid..
1) Were megalithic structures build on particular points of ''earth field''?
2)Is dowsing a useful metod in archeological research?
ad1)--Absolutely,yes.
ad2) Maybe in some events..but georadar seems to be better.
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