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|  Posted 02-01-2013 at 23:00
Why would Buck House not be a solar / lunar arrangement? Because the alignments are random without right angles between them and these large angles are not cardinal lines. Except equinox which is a calculation, not an observable rising. Only a circle can suitably contain multiple variable directions in an aesthetic way.
A sundial becomes boring after a while, every day the same process. Sunrise and sunset may have been boring after 1000 years. It's solstice! Yeah So what?
Then the priests move on to the big game of world politics, the political realm of the cardinal directions of the king. The King of the Four Quarters. This is a refinement of sunrise with temples aligned north-south, Buck House. So Indra the sun-god has Angkor Wat on the cardinals, as with pyramids after the stone circle of Nabta.
Newgrange and Maes Howe were built taller than the eroded and vandalised mound today, and perhaps Silbury also. The square chambers may be fore-runners of a cardinal concept and maybe the mounds even had a pyramid style, either on solstice or cardinal alignments. So did the new cardinal idea, as at the Celtic temple of Gournay sur Aronde, make the circles become unfashionable and then abandoned?
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| Posted 03-01-2013 at 13:58
http://www.templarmechanics.com/templar_detail.asp?templarid=217
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| Posted 03-01-2013 at 22:36
what's your angle?
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| Posted 04-01-2013 at 19:34
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Golden ratio.
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| Posted 04-01-2013 at 20:20
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| Posted 04-01-2013 at 22:35
Megalithic society did not develop,because all megalithicians were occupied with astronomy only.
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| Posted 05-01-2013 at 10:18
Do you think the Stonehenge great trilithon and 4 trilithons in a quadrilateral plan were a development away from astronomy?
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| Posted 05-01-2013 at 12:55
Sure, if you buy into the idea that Stonehenge was specifically designed to be aligned to a solstice, then one possible justification for other monuments not being aligned, even though they are aligned, is that the others are square buildings.
Is the argument that only circles count when it comes to alignments?
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Do you think the Stonehenge great trilithon and 4 trilithons in a quadrilateral plan were a development away from astronomy?
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I think the megalithic structures were built according to the local course of the force lines of this odd field and did not have anything to do with astronomy
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| Posted 05-01-2013 at 17:53
Dowser , What evidence can you provide to to support your thought that megalithic structures were built “ according to the local course of the force lines of this odd field “ ?
Where astronomy or at least an alignment towards an auspicious astronomical event e.g. a solstice , looks a possibility can you suggest why your thought should be considered to be the more likely explanation rather than astronomy ?
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Do you think the Stonehenge great trilithon and 4 trilithons in a quadrilateral plan were a development away from astronomy?
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I think the megalithic structures were built according to the local course of the force lines of this odd field and did not have anything to do with astronomy
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| Posted 05-01-2013 at 19:49
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On 2013-01-05 12:55, jonm wrote:
Sure, if you buy into the idea that Stonehenge was specifically designed to be aligned to a solstice, then one possible justification for other monuments not being aligned, even though they are aligned, is that the others are square buildings.
Is the argument that only circles count when it comes to alignments?
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Yes only circles can harmoniously contain the random angles. For another thing, a square SH would block or diminish the apertures between ring uprights, by geometry. The sighting would be o/o rather than oIo shape.
Cardinal squares can only align to Pole star and equinox which are a bit boring. Not male/female, not dying/ being born and not hot/cold seson.
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On 2013-01-04 22:35, Dowser wrote:
Megalithic society did not develop,because all megalithicians were occupied with astronomy only.
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Do you mean 'stone-age megalithicians' or 'modern megalithicians'?
If the first one, are you saying the megs were only for astronomy? Not force fields?
If it was for force fields, is there a society which developed because of force fields? The Dowser dynasty of Egypt? The Teutonic Twitchers? National Swastika-Field Marshalls?
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| Posted 05-01-2013 at 20:11
There is aso the right angle found for solstice and standstill when the horizon and latitude are suitable . Which is what Freeman is getting at in his connection with SH the Majorville medicine wheel and Kazakhstan although there is a lot more leeway than is usually imagined by the believers in the choice of latitude having an impact on choice of the site .
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Sure, if you buy into the idea that Stonehenge was specifically designed to be aligned to a solstice, then one possible justification for other monuments not being aligned, even though they are aligned, is that the others are square buildings.
Is the argument that only circles count when it comes to alignments?
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Yes only circles can harmoniously contain the random angles. For another thing, a square SH would block or diminish the apertures between ring uprights, by geometry. The sighting would be o/o rather than oIo shape.
Cardinal squares can only align to Pole star and equinox which are a bit boring. Not male/female, not dying/ being born and not hot/cold seson.
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| Posted 05-01-2013 at 20:21
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On 2013-01-05 17:53, tiompan wrote:
Dowser , What evidence can you provide to to support your thought that megalithic structures were built “ according to the local course of the force lines of this odd field “ ?
--- George,just find these lines around megalithic structure,then it is easy seen.
Where astronomy or at least an alignment towards an auspicious astronomical event e.g. a solstice , looks a possibility can you suggest why your thought should be considered to be the more likely explanation rather than astronomy ?
How many alignements we know all around the world?How many of them aim to solstice?And what is probability that it is accidental?
Maciej
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| Posted 05-01-2013 at 20:43
You didn't answer the questions . Merely replied with another question .
We know from ethnography that solstices are important for many cultures from foragers to contemporary western .They are marked and provide guidance for calendrical events ,feasts etc .
Monuments throughout the world have solstice alignments .
George
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On 2013-01-05 17:53, tiompan wrote:
Dowser , What evidence can you provide to to support your thought that megalithic structures were built “ according to the local course of the force lines of this odd field “ ?
--- George,just find these lines around megalithic structure,then it is easy seen.
Where astronomy or at least an alignment towards an auspicious astronomical event e.g. a solstice , looks a possibility can you suggest why your thought should be considered to be the more likely explanation rather than astronomy ?
How many alignements we know all around the world?How many of them aim to solstice?And what is probability that it is accidental?
Maciej
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| Posted 05-01-2013 at 21:11
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Do you mean 'stone-age megalithicians' or 'modern megalithicians'?
If the first one, are you saying the megs were only for astronomy? Not force fields?
If it was for force fields, is there a society which developed because of force fields? The Dowser dynasty of Egypt? The Teutonic Twitchers? National Swastika-Field Marshalls?
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Oh,it was only my irony.
Megalithicians are megalithicians,"modern megalithicians " are not megalithicians,actors rather.Megs were for force field.There was societes developped because of force field;Atlantis,pre-Incas (look at Tiwanaku,at oldest part of Sacsayhuaman,at underwater megalith near Yonaguni isle...) Dowser Dynasty of Egypt?Probably ,yes. Modern dowsers are amateurs,those ancient dowsers were scientist with wide knowledge about this field.
Tetonic twitchers and S-F marshalls has nothing to do with this field,their researches are legend only.
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| Posted 05-01-2013 at 21:25
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On 2013-01-05 20:43, tiompan wrote:
You didn't answer the questions . Merely replied with another question .
We know from ethnography that solstices are important for many cultures from foragers to contemporary western .They are marked and provide guidance for calendrical events ,feasts etc .
Monuments throughout the world have solstice alignments .
George
Nay, I answered! In the sense: some of the pairs of stones (or rows of stones) can be pointed at solstice accidentaly. Maciej
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| Posted 05-01-2013 at 21:49
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On 2013-01-05 20:11, tiompan wrote:
There is aso the right angle found for solstice and standstill when the horizon and latitude are suitable . Which is what Freeman is getting at in his connection with SH the Majorville medicine wheel and Kazakhstan although there is a lot more leeway than is usually imagined by the believers in the choice of latitude having an impact on choice of the site .
George
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In that case we could expect a square either aligned to solstice or cardinal with corners to solstice. The right angle is not apparent in SH ring geometry.
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Dowser Dynasty of Egypt?Probably ,yes. Modern dowsers are amateurs,those ancient dowsers were scientist with wide knowledge about this field.
Tetonic twitchers and S-F marshalls has nothing to do with this field,their researches are legend only.
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Pyramids are on dowser forces? How can Germans have a swastika and not be a dowser blitzkrieg force in the field?
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| Posted 05-01-2013 at 22:12
Yes of course some pairs of stones or even rows can aligned by coincidence but there are plenty of examples where the evidence suggests it is not coincidence and they don't consist of pairs of stones or rows
But that is not an aswer to the questions .Here's the questions again .
"What evidence can you provide to to support your thought that megalithic structures were built “ according to the local course of the force lines of this odd field “ ?
Where astronomy or at least an alignment towards an auspicious astronomical event e.g. a solstice , looks a possibility can you suggest why your thought should be considered to be the more likely explanation rather than astronomy ? "
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On 2013-01-05 20:43, tiompan wrote:
You didn't answer the questions . Merely replied with another question .
We know from ethnography that solstices are important for many cultures from foragers to contemporary western .They are marked and provide guidance for calendrical events ,feasts etc .
Monuments throughout the world have solstice alignments .
George
Nay, I answered! In the sense: some of the pairs of stones (or rows of stones) can be pointed at solstice accidentaly. Maciej
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