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bat400
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|  Posted 25-11-2012 at 22:22
jackdaw1 writes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ELu9ARLo0jc
Stone Builders, Mound Builders and the Giants of Ancient America | Jim Vieira at TEDxShelburneFalls
Video presentation on link above.
3 November 2012
Vieira's research over the last 20 years has led him down a bizarre road of intrigue and mystery surrounding the races and built structures of Ancient America. Vieira has compiled thousands of accounts of giant skeleton reports from the New York Times, Smithsonian Ethnology Reports, American Antiquarian, Scientific American as well as town and county histories to make the case that the history of our past has not only been deliberately covered up, but is vastly different then what we are told.
With passions in writing, researching, ancient stone work, spirituality and metaphysics, Jim is a stone mason and co-owner of North Wind Stonework in Ashfield, Massachusetts, USA doing dry masonry in and around the Berkshire Highlands for 15 years. Jim belongs to the Northeast Antiquities Research Association, a clearinghouse of information regarding mysterious monuments of antiquity. Jim is a regular contributing columnist for the Shelburne Falls & West County Independent and the national publication, Ancient American Magazine.
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| Posted 26-11-2012 at 15:32
Interesting, although I found it covered several topics which could do with investigating in their own right.
Previously I wasn't aware of the amount of giant skeletons that had been unearthed, nor was I aware of the commonality of the double rows of teeth. It would be useful to know exactly where and in what types of structures these giant skeletons were found, so that some dating could be obtained and genetic abnormality could be ruled in or out. Are we to infer they lived among or were Native Americans, or were they a separate race?
The scale of the strangely-shaped constructions that he mentioned near the beginning were for the lunar standstill etc. could do with a little more expansion, a channel fifty miles long to track the moons rising pattern is some effort to go to.
Yes, the earth built Cahokia does seem to have similarities in appearance to some stone sites found in South America, but again, dating needs to be used.
The 'glacial erratic dolmens' and 'root cellars', well, there's a host of reasons why they've been delineated as such, not the least being that a race of intelligent people had their homes usurped by invaders who to save face then lied at every opportunity to portray the original inhabitants as less cogent than pondlife, then attempted genocide. The emotions of that action still run far too high to enable the reality to be publicly acknowledged, so the 'root cellars' that are aligned to solstices and equinoxes will stay officially labelled 'root cellars' until some face-saving solution is reached.
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| Posted 26-11-2012 at 15:47
Thank you thank you thank you for putting the video out, finally a voice of reason!!!! I think i have a crush on this guy 
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| Posted 26-11-2012 at 17:19
I'm very happy to see the technilogical achievements of ancient America highlighted. That's why I started participating at this website.
But Vieira is, in fact, making that case that the American Indians were NOT responsible for these achievements. By throwing in giants with double sets of teeth, he's saying that someone ELSE was responsible.
(The main point of "Ancient America" magazine he writes for is that anything of archeaological interest in America came from non-native, Old World civilizations - or maybe angels. I'm never quite sure when I read that magagine.)
"It would be useful to know exactly where and in what types of structures these giant skeletons were found, so that some dating could be obtained and genetic abnormality could be ruled in or out."
Yeah ... it sure would be useful.... I wonder why no one has done this...
It's instructive that many of the published accounts are from the late 19th century, but generally describing finds from many years earlier, prior to photography. I myself have examined early 20th century small town newspaper photos of supposed "giants" from earthen burial mounds in Northern Indiana, but, surprisingly, no one bothered to take photos of the bones in context (like laid out with a yardstick.)
I've seen several and-then-the-bones-crumbled-into-dust stories. Or, it's a massive conspiracy of the Simthsonian Institution...
Which - startlingly - brings us to Vieira's rant about the Koch Brothers sponcered Smithsonian Institution exhibit on Human Origins. (On the one hand the exhibits supports evolutionary biology by saying, yes, we evolved from other lifeforms, instead of being made by "God." But the exhibit also sneaks in a message that we can adapt to any problem with civilization as we know it intact. *So, please don't worry about how much energy you consume.*)
What a leap! If Vieira wants to protest big business men influencing public opinion, he needs to focus on that and drop the "giants" in ancient America bit.
Giants and angels and outerspace visitors aren't going to save us from our modern policical/economic problems.
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| Posted 18-02-2013 at 04:32
A similar youtube video by Jim Vieira
Jackdaw1 submits this link and article description:
Mysterious Stone Chambers of New England- Jim Vieira
Strange stone tunnels and chambers, perhaps pre-historic, have been found in Leyden, Wendell, Pelham, Montague, New Salem, Whitingham, VT and throughout New England. Who built these structures and when? Why?
Ashfield stonemason Jim Vieira has been exploring local stone chambers for years as a member of the Northeast Antiquities Research Association, which has studied these structures for 60 years. He describes the stone ceremonial landscape of New England, carbon-dating evidence and historical texts. His slides document local sites and others in New England, and he discusses what they represent and who may have built them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eNjm4_moFE
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| Posted 18-02-2013 at 14:36
Would it be too unreasonable to suggest that a global comprehension of something to do with life and death was understood, and has been enabled to be forgotten???
That at death a local shielded construction was deemed essential, and great efforts were undertaken to build such.
The USA typifies the extreme lengths that is taken to ensure this past knowledge is to remain forgotten....why???
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| Posted 18-02-2013 at 18:04
“Would it be too unreasonable to suggest that a global comprehension of something to do with life and death was understood, and has been enabled to be forgotten??? “
It would help if you clarified what may have been" understood "and how it was “enabaled to be forgotten “ .
“That at death a local shielded construction was deemed essential, and great efforts were undertaken to build such. “
It is obvious from the incredibly varied burial /funereal practices that we are aware throughout the world , in prehistory , that there was no single simple approach to dealing with cadavers . Bodies could be buried at various periods after death from immediately to years after . They could also be be dug up after after burial . The burial may be in a grave of varying depth that may or may not be covered with a mound soon after or many years after burial . Cremations and excarnation make things more complicated and then you get stuff like the Cladh Hallan hybrid mummies . Very few individuals were interred in a “local shielded construction “. Quie simply we don't what happened to the bodies of the vast majority of people who lived in prehistory
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| Posted 18-02-2013 at 19:17
I have tried , obviously poorly, to better describe what imo was at play.
What does survive are the stones, exactly what this site is dedicated to.
I doubt that our ancestors had the same regard for bodies as We presently do, and it was not the defunct vessel that they were dealing with when constructing the insulated constructions, but what had been sort of driving the vessels, and it's journey at death , and local return.
I suspect that to control a fear filled population was thought far simpler than people who didn't fear death, but almost looked forward to obtaing a new and better vehicle next time???
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| Posted 18-02-2013 at 20:11
I have tried , obviously poorly, to better describe what imo was at play.
Was it the death and rebirth aspect, Kevin?
I've read this theory in a few places. At a certain time of year, a few bones from a recently deceased tribe member would be taken into the passage mound and a ritual would be performed - presumably to keep his spirit local.
A pregnant woman would be taken into the chamber at the right moonphase and the spirit of the aforementioned ancestor would inhabit the as yet unborn baby.
I thought Hugh Newman had covered that aspect of passage mounds, but can't find it here
http://megalithomania-america.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/an-exploration-of-incredible-ancient.html
Does anyone know the origin of that theory?
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| Posted 18-02-2013 at 21:23
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“That at death a local shielded construction was deemed essential, and great efforts were undertaken to build such. “ [- cropredy]
It is obvious from the incredibly varied burial /funereal practices that we are aware throughout the world , in prehistory , that there was no single simple approach to dealing with cadavers . |
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This is an accurate a statement for the Americas as it is for the "Old World."
Even in historic time periods in the Americas funerary practices varied from whole body burials in earthen mounds, stone piles, or under the floors of living quarters. Bodies were exposed to the elements on raised platforms, bundled in blankets before being placed in shallow rock selter alcoves, or smoked to a "dry" state and stored in special houses. Secondary burial of bone bundles was not unknown in history periods, but cremations, common collection of old burials for re-burial, and the burial of individuals with specific bones of another are all common in the archaeological record.
Attitudes about the dead in early historic times varied from seeking their advice on a friendly basis, to avoiding not only the burial location, but any mention of the dead, in attempts to avoid evil influences of the departed or non-human spirits attracted by the death.
There was no universal.
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