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Landsker_man



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 Posted 13-10-2012 at 10:19   
Its been a while since I have been able to get to the Preselis for a walk as the weather has been bloody awful. So one day I woke up early and saw it was a nice day and thought it is now or never...The Sun was actually shining.

Remembering something Sem very kindly told me "If you see anything on the skyline go take a look"

On my way I stumbled into this,it is on the far north eastern extreme of Craig Talfynydd ,the first thing I noticed on approach was the upright stone..

Then realised it was part of a "structure" going downslope



Here is another view



And finally the view back up slope with the standing stone at the far end..


Hope this is of interest to you all,I could get more images if need be..

all the best

Hugh




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Feanor



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 Posted 13-10-2012 at 21:02   
Hiya Landsker Man,
I am by no means an expert on these fascinating Preselli formations, but I do recall that one of the peculiarities with regard to this region is that there are seeming 'Rivers of Stone' throughout the area.

Many have attempted to assign the Human Hand to these features, but it ultimately turns out that they are just odd formations. The human eye loves to see patterns.
It has something to do with how dolerite is formed, fractured and sheared as I recall, then acted upon by ancient tectonics.

Perhaps it might be worthwhile investigating whether or not these stones have evidence of being worked or moved into these positions?

I'm all for man-made stone-creations - and the UK is lousy with them - but it isn't always so.

Best,
Neil





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 Posted 14-10-2012 at 01:09   
They remind me of the (prehistoric) reaves on Dartmoor.
Quoting from this site:

http://www.legendarydartmoor.co.uk/reave_moor.htm

".. it is recognised that the Dartmoor reaves were land divisions that date back to the Bronze Age."

At Foale's Arrishes, reaves were divided up into fields by building rough walls at right-angles to them as they crossed the landscape.
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=a312&file=index&do=showpic&pid=92963

Also at Kestor Settlement there are similar ones to those at Preseli:
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=a312&file=index&do=showpic&pid=92791

(That's a pretty solid version. Some aren't quite as obvious, which make them look more like that view you've posted here.)




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On 2012-10-13 21:02, Feanor wrote:
Hiya Landsker Man,
I am by no means an expert on these fascinating Preselli formations, but I do recall that one of the peculiarities with regard to this region is that there are seeming 'Rivers of Stone' throughout the area.

Many have attempted to assign the Human Hand to these features, but it ultimately turns out that they are just odd formations. The human eye loves to see patterns.
It has something to do with how dolerite is formed, fractured and sheared as I recall, then acted upon by ancient tectonics.

Perhaps it might be worthwhile investigating whether or not these stones have evidence of being worked or moved into these positions?

I'm all for man-made stone-creations - and the UK is lousy with them - but it isn't always so.

Best,
Neil




Hello Neil

Hope you are well

Yes a few people have commented on the Stone River features of Preseli and I am very familiar with them visited them many times,they appear on both sides of the ridge with a "flow aspect" generally north/south. This though is aligned east/west and amongst the very random nature of the distribution of the boulders around this area stands out as VERY organised...
After studying Flash earth in this area I have found it may be part of a larger feature and on my next walk am going back armed with this new information. There is a lot of evidence of man made structures in the area known as Craig Talfynnydd . I know what you mean about the Human eye picking out patterns as in and around the eastern Preseli it is very hard not to spot many unnatural looking features ,we have to keep out senses under control...

All the best

Hugh




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On 2012-10-14 01:09, AngieLake wrote:
They remind me of the (prehistoric) reaves on Dartmoor.
Quoting from this site:

http://www.legendarydartmoor.co.uk/reave_moor.htm

".. it is recognised that the Dartmoor reaves were land divisions that date back to the Bronze Age."

At Foale's Arrishes, reaves were divided up into fields by building rough walls at right-angles to them as they crossed the landscape.
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=a312&file=index&do=showpic&pid=92963

Also at Kestor Settlement there are similar ones to those at Preseli:
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=a312&file=index&do=showpic&pid=92791

(That's a pretty solid version. Some aren't quite as obvious, which make them look more like that view you've posted here.)




Hello AngieLake

Hope the world is treating you nicely

Thank you so much for these links,it is greatly appreciated,I can see many similarities with a number of features i have now seen up on the Preseli ridge and those in your links. I am leaning towards it being some sort of boundary marker perhaps ,although the lower part of this feature looks quite cairn like and reminds me a lot of Bedd Y Afanc in a peculiar sort of way.
I intend to go back and get clearer images if possible

All the best to you

Hugh


[ This message was edited by: Landsker_man on 2012-10-14 09:49 ]




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 Posted 14-10-2012 at 10:38   
Hi Hugh
It's hard to tell from the pics, but IMO the feature looks unnatural (ie man-made). "Stone rivers" tend to follow natural features the same as normal rivers but this doesn't seem to be the case here.
Congrats on another find!
Sem






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 Posted 14-10-2012 at 15:08   
Hello Sem

Hope you are well
Yes the more I look at this site the more I feel the hand of people have had an influence here,it looks like it has been disturbed in the past and was once far more defined ,I remembered what you told me about investigating anything that did not look like it belonged and this seems to be true here,so thank you for that.. Im convinced the upright stone is a marker of some sort and am going back on my next opportunity to have a closer look around the area ..

All the best

Hugh





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 Posted 14-10-2012 at 15:24   
Fascinating stuff, Hugh!
If authentic, it seems the people had no lack of stone to work with!

A Cairn Avenue for some Big-Shot.
If so, are there other examples of this type of feature?

Neil




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On 2012-10-14 15:24, Feanor wrote:
Fascinating stuff, Hugh!
If authentic, it seems the people had no lack of stone to work with!

A Cairn Avenue for some Big-Shot.
If so, are there other examples of this type of feature?

Neil



Hi Neil
After finding this feature I am confident I may know of similar features in other areas and am intending on going back to check them out once the place either dries out after all the rain we have had or freezes up during the winter.

All the best

Hugh






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