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Neanderthal
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|  Posted 03-08-2012 at 19:43
Hi everyone, this is my first post.
I find flint tools, and have many recorded by the pro's.
Last year I started to find worked flints with elephant and horse images in them.
Trying to get any archaeologist in the field to see my art finds became a burden.
Even the flints which had normal tool shape and style were dismissed by my usual contacts.
I knew I was right about my finds, but gave up trying to get any interest, until a few weeks ago.
I emailed one of leaders in the field for recognizing motifs in prehistoric artifacts.
And my finds were validated.
take a look for yourself.
brettroymartin.moonfruit.com/
Many so called professionals in the U.K seem to be standing in the way of the ordinary man making any discovery.
[ This message was edited by: Neanderthal on 2012-08-03 19:45 ]
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Neanderthal
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|  Posted 05-08-2012 at 11:09
Update:
Some small improvement on my website.
A Dr has contacted me, and proposed a video and interview, detailing my finds and conclusions. :To be conducted in September.
I am getting better at decoding the language element of these artifacts, and will post some more theory's and conclusions soon.
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sem
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| Posted 16-08-2012 at 23:26
Hi Neanderthal
Maybe like your namesake, it's going to take you years to get recognition as a sentient being with something more than a "short and brutish" existance.
Keep with it and good luck.
Sem
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Neanderthal
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|  Posted 19-08-2012 at 21:54
Yes its an up hill struggle.
Some people seem not to see them at all.
I guess it takes time to see them.
Thank you for the sentiments 
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Neanderthal
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| Posted 29-10-2012 at 21:05
Some animations I have made:
 creating a gif
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Neanderthal
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| Posted 29-10-2012 at 21:07
This one may be a little naughty?
 creating a gif
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| Posted 30-10-2012 at 09:48
Not sure what I am supposed to be seeing in any of those....
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Neanderthal
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| Posted 30-10-2012 at 12:54
That is often the case with prehistoric art 
1. Elephant heads, horse and wild boar head too maybe.
2. Boar head looking right.
3. The head chest and arm of a 'man' facing right.
4. Horse head and leg that transforms to elephant head and leg.
5. Sexy image or woman in labor?
See whatever you can see.......
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| Posted 30-10-2012 at 15:13
"See whatever you can see......."
And in a nutshell, this is the problem.
Are these worked stone artefacts? They sure look like it...
Were they worked with the intention that they are depictions of animal and human forms?
Your examples all appear to be formations associated with the clevage faces of the stone. Have you ever tried (as an experiment) to randomly work stone yourself and then examine the results for similar "forms?"
However, in regards your theory, you have company here:
http://www.daysknob.com/. This American gentleman's website also looks at stone/earthworks.
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=Forum&file=viewtopic&topic=5291&forum=1 and a site that appears to be in the western US
and a somewhat similar theorist in metal:
http://www.pangeawv.com/
There are, of course, many examples of very obvious figurative stone working by prehistoric man, from the "eccentric flints" of the Maya and southeastern US Mississippian cultures...
to the worked stone figures of the european upper paleolithic ...
And there are also artistic depictions of "multiple figures" where an intention of viewing the same art from different directions seems likely. These are Hopewell and Adena stone tablets from the Ohio River Valley.
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Neanderthal
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| Posted 30-10-2012 at 20:10
YouTube Video Trailer. I have just put this together, Im in a joint production to make a more detailed documentary type video.
This will take a while.
In response to what you say, I find many similar examples of this polymorphic artwork and there are an almost clear set of subjects, or motifs if you like. Finding a few of these motifs in your stone is a good way to promote authenticity.
I have a lot of this weak type stuff with all the usual suspects, sometimes I find things that are artistically exceptional, for any proposed period of use.
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Neanderthal
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| Posted 04-11-2012 at 23:56
The 'Bird', fun rock art video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ2zkeAssgM
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| Posted 09-11-2012 at 10:41
ive looked closely at these flints and i honestly cant see anything in them to corroborate the OPs findings. ive had extensive dealings with flints and cherts and ive found, over the years, many natural pieces that look like these falling out of cliff faces and being smashed on the ground. ive also spent some time trying to fashion flint axes and arrow heads and these could just as easily be the initial 'knocked off' fragments from a raw lump of flint...maybe the OP could post some still pictures with the detail highlighted?
dean
edit; i can 'see' the 'horse head' in gif 4...i believe it to be a simulcra
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| Posted 18-11-2012 at 12:52
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On 2012-10-30 15:13, bat400 wrote:
... Have you ever tried (as an experiment) to randomly work stone yourself and then examine the results for similar "forms?"
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Exactly. Have you tried this suggestion OP? Its hard if not impossible to intentionally shape flint to look like an animal head.
What does it tell you that nobody else can see what you see other than (at best) vague simulcra?
If you see 'faces' in flint I'm guessing you see faces everywhere?
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Neanderthal
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| Posted 23-11-2012 at 11:24
These are genuine 'talking stones' people, im not trying to fool anyone!
Many dont seem to have the cognition available to decode/see these things, but that dont mean they aint real.
Big video to be released soon.
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| Posted 23-11-2012 at 15:31
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On 2012-11-23 11:24, Neanderthal wrote:
These are genuine 'talking stones' people, im not trying to fool anyone!
Many dont seem to have the cognition available to decode/see these things, but that dont mean they aint real.
Big video to be released soon.
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I just wonder how many of these 'talking stones' you could identify if they were mixed up with a load of randomly smashed up flint....
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Neanderthal
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| Posted 29-11-2012 at 12:34
every one of them
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