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Anonymous
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I've become involved in a conversation elsewhere about Stonehenge. In the course of that, I have become curious as to why there are no apparent Stone formations in the South East of England. Is there a known reason, or did the Romans tear them all down?
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ocifant

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| Posted 19-10-2004 at 13:17  
We're not totally bereft - there are the Medway Megaliths in Kent.
I think the main reason there are no circles, menhirs etc is probably a lack of raw material. Of course, settlement patterns also play their part - the Thames estuary was mainly a floodplain in neolithic times, with not a lot of high ground suitable for habitation.
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Thorgrim

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| Posted 19-10-2004 at 14:03  
Good question and not dumb at all - Welcometo the Portal!
The south -east and East Anglia have little or no stone. There are a few erratic sarsen boulders from glaciers and there is flint and chalk - but little to use for Stonehenge type constructions except in Kent.
However that does not mean that nothing was going on. There were timber circles, barrows and hill forts and aerial photos show numerous earth henges, settlements and enclosures. Don't blame the Romans - blame it on the geology.
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Anonymous
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Well, that occured to me, but some of the material for Stonehenge was brought from Wales. Surely another couple of days sailing wasn't a problem?
Or did they go overland?
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| Posted 19-10-2004 at 19:14  
Only the smaller bluestones came from Wales - not the massive sarsens. "another couple of days sailing" - by raft from Wales to south east Britain ????- I don't think so
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Anonymous
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There is an out-of-print book by Rodney Castledon on the Long Man of Wilmington which suggests that the chalk giant there was part of a calendar focussed on a solar event marked by the sun appering between two pylons, a calendar dating to 3900 years BC, a millenium before the SH circle was cut. RC speculated that the giant's staves are predecessors to the solstice markers at Stonehenge, which he argued were two as well.
If I remember correctly, RC suggests that the megalithic culture was a separate culture and Stonehenge was a marriage of cultures, the megalithic culture(s) of the north and west, and the calendar builders of the southeast. It seems likely that the bluestone source Preselis were a local site for a major tribe that brought their sacred temple stones, possibly even moving an existing temple, to contribute to Stonehenge as a multi-tribal project.
I don't know if even Castledon still subscribes to this theory, but I found it compelling.
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Anonymous
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On 2004-12-26 17:10, Anonymous wrote:
There is an out-of-print book by Rodney Castledon on the Long Man of Wilmington which suggests that the chalk giant there was part of a calendar focussed on a solar event marked by the sun appering between two pylons, a calendar dating to 3900 years BC, a millenium before the SH circle was cut. RC speculated that the giant's staves are predecessors to the solstice markers at Stonehenge, which he argued were two as well.
If I remember correctly, RC suggests that the megalithic culture was a separate culture and Stonehenge was a marriage of cultures, the megalithic culture(s) of the north and west, and the calendar builders of the southeast. It seems likely that the bluestone source Preselis were a local site for a major tribe that brought their sacred temple stones, possibly even moving an existing temple, to contribute to Stonehenge as a multi-tribal project.
I don't know if even Castledon still subscribes to this theory, but I found it compelling.
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Hi.
I like the sound of that theory.
Thanks for posting it.
Richard
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coldrum

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| Posted 08-01-2005 at 16:31  
Hi
From Kent myself.
There is the remains of Long Barrows,Kits Cort,Little Kits Coty,
----------------- ,Chestnuts and Addington,Coffin Stone and perhaps white horse stone. Also theres records and stories of lost megaliths.
There are earthern long barrows,Julieberries grave being one,and bronze age round barrows (theres one not far from where i live in medway).
A lot was found when they were building the Channel Tunnel Rail link including a Neolithic Long House.
A few causewayed enclosures have also been found.And settlement sites.
Kent doesnt really have the building materials for hugh stone monuments like Stonehenge and Avebury.
Also Kent and south-east in general is the gate way to england so it's a pretty heavily populated area and no doubt always has been so monuments arn't going to survive well.
A lot of monuments etc are found as crop marks and during digs.
So theres a rich past there just not so obvious as else where.
[ This message was edited by: coldrum on 2005-01-08 16:32 ]
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