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|  Posted 23-02-2012 at 22:48
Hey JonM, See Above
which two trips Jon, I havent booked anything yet but the rental car?
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On 2012-02-23 19:07, jonm wrote:
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Why the summer solstice? While you're there, take both trips that they will offer you.
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| Posted 23-02-2012 at 22:48
Try Oronsay .
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On 2012-02-23 22:39, cropredy wrote:
I,m on a shell hunt.
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=7451
I won't believe anyone who says they haven't picked up a spiral shell and put it to their ear????
I just happen to also check what the shell does locally about itself to the field flows, and the spiral method of creation of the shell will be right down into it's celluler structure, therefore it will interact with the very stuff it was created from, because thats how everything is created in fantastic spiral variations.
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| Posted 23-02-2012 at 22:59
As for fibonacci spirals, I am certain it is all to do with opposite fibonacci spirals created in the geometry where the churchs are sited....which is often smack bang on top of former megalithic sites....because it is the geometry that is important....just invisable.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=pictures+of+fleur+de+lys+churches&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7GGLL_en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=esJGT8ImpsDRBf6stYcO&ved=0CDUQsAQ&biw=1014&bih=507
The spiral pattern is described by the geometry of straight lines bisecting within rectangles formed by the dominant polar and equator lines.
they do so in opposite bands across the floorspace of the church.
I consider this to be where TIME implodes and emitts into and out of the planet.
Different spiral patterns are created relative to the very localised geometry.
Its positioning is left marked, but not recognised unless You can detect the system, but thats the devils work...or so i am so objectionally often TOLD by morons.
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| Posted 23-02-2012 at 23:03
I can't keep My eyes off these spirals.
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=pictures+of+fleur+de+lys+churches&hl=en&sa=X&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7GGLL_en&biw=1014&bih=507&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=EhbvLm7ZT0bdpM:&imgrefurl=http://adfywiad.blogspot.com/2007/02/patriots-and-parades-st-david-and.html&docid=Eb9AmpTdduGyGM&imgurl=http://bp3.blogger.com/_Re0DVQbpqZo/Rdx1QanYlTI/AAAAAAAABIc/6kCanGWcDTw/s320/Fleur%252Bde%252BLys%252B010...jpg&w=295&h=320&ei=0sRGT7T6O-bC0QWYxqSPDg&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=328&sig=107785500102601934315&page=14&tbnh=146&tbnw=128&start=184&ndsp=15&ved=1t:429,r:13,s:184&tx=79&ty=65
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| Posted 23-02-2012 at 23:47
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On 2012-02-23 22:48, tiompan wrote:
Try Oronsay .
I take it that You mean the so called Shell middens???
Which if looking at them physically will simply be piles of discarded shells, but.
They may be simply that, or they may have a functional quality only to be seen by those who look in an odd way at them.
The people living by the coast are most likely to have carefully noted shells and any strange abilities that shells may have.
We are discussing constructions made of very natural materials and made by people who only had such resources to utilise, thus every finite strange ability of such natural materials will have had far higher value and meaning than at present when a shell is just a shell, or an old rock is just a rock, hence the very few people who have any interest and respect for the megalithic sites.
They are not just rocks, they were very carefully chosen and precisely positioned rocks to perform a desired function.
That function is not presently recognised, but everything spirals, so the knowledge will return.
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| Posted 23-02-2012 at 23:52
Newgrange lives in Ireland. for a longer time.
Spirals are simple.
Keep it simple.
No problem.
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| Posted 24-02-2012 at 00:02
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On 2012-02-23 23:52, oBRoin wrote:
Newgrange lives in Ireland. for a longer time.
Spirals are simple.
Keep it simple.
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Welcome to thee.
And here's a K.I.S.S to You.
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| Posted 24-02-2012 at 06:21
@Cropredy: You still have given no example for your shell-thesis:
"Shells demonstrate this brilliantly, and will be why they were incorperated into megalithic constructions to aid in the design features. " (quote from Cropredy)
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| Posted 24-02-2012 at 07:30
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If you've booked a rental car, make sure you take a GPS and navigate your way to the visitor's centre, not Newgrange (the visitor's centre is on the other side of the Boyne).
There are two trips from that centre: One to Newgrange, One to Knowth. Each bus is timed so that you can sequentially do one, then the other. Don't worry about the winter solstice thing, the angle of the Sun has since changed. You're allowed inside Newgrange (but not with a camera) but you're not allowed to enter Knowth's original passages. Knowth has far more rock art than Newgrange.
If you've got a rental car, check whether or not they cover the M50 toll. Finding the location of the rental car outfits is easier at Belfast Airport than Dublin airport. At Belfast I would choose Europcar, at Dublin Hertz.
Enjoy!
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| Posted 24-02-2012 at 08:48
And " Everything spirals.
And those spirals are determined by fibonacci sequencing ."
Nothing to support the outlandish claim or comment on the clear lack of Fibonacci spirals in rock art .
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On 2012-02-24 06:21, Martin_L wrote:
@Cropredy: You still have given no example for your shell-thesis:
"Shells demonstrate this brilliantly, and will be why they were incorperated into megalithic constructions to aid in the design features. " (quote from Cropredy)
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| Posted 24-02-2012 at 09:05
OK, it's not a double spiral, but what is a spiral within a spiral called? A parallel spiral? Like The Monty Python Matching Tie and Handkerchief.
Sorry, just seen it - a Fermat spiral.
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But the image is not a double spiral ,its ,as mentioned previously about the Boyne spirals closer to a Fermat's Spiral http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermat%27s_spiral .A double spiral =http://etc.usf.edu/clipart/43500/43503/spiral2_43503.htm
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| On 2012-02-23 20:37, davidmorgan wrote:
Nice one. However, I think the double spiral would have been better, then no direct lines in/out. |
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| Posted 24-02-2012 at 13:01
There's a nice modern spiral (ish) geoglyph on Ilkley Moor, not too far away from 12 Apostles stone circle here (zoom in): http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?ll=53.901394,-1.8149897&z=17&t=h&hl=en-GB
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| Posted 24-02-2012 at 19:04
90 plus mile one, in the deep bluesea,
http://www.earth-issues.com/2012/02/22/satellite-captures-enormous-90-mile-wide-storm-thats-underwater/
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| Posted 24-02-2012 at 19:12
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On 2012-02-24 08:48, tiompan wrote:
And " Everything spirals.
And those spirals are determined by fibonacci sequencing ."
Nothing to support the outlandish claim or comment on the clear lack of Fibonacci spirals in rock art .
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@Cropredy: You still have given no example for your shell-thesis:
"Shells demonstrate this brilliantly, and will be why they were incorperated into megalithic constructions to aid in the design features. " (quote from Cropredy)
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"Outlandish" great word.
I can't remember claiming there were fibonacci spirals in rock art??????
I don't think You have grasped what sequencing means, and the resultant consequences.
It won't simply be a golden spiral, but the consequence of resonant fields meeting each other.
http://www.humanresonance.org/gobekli_tepe.html
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| Posted 24-02-2012 at 19:26
Sometimes spirals appear to be depicted as circles, it all depends on scale, and how You are looking at the consequences of one spiral wave pattern interfering with another/s.
http://www.humanresonance.org/knowth.html
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| Posted 24-02-2012 at 19:33
The spiral wave patterns are fibonacci sequenced , and are impacting all around this spheroid with megalithic constructions been found upon the meeting points of various of these spirals, the consequences are highly complex , and lead to areas of least resistance that the contents upon the spiral waves follow.
The local manipulation of what becomes two opposing spin flows will reveal how the stones were both cut( not actually cut, but persuaded to part from their adjoining atoms)
and then levitated along the natural but enchanced routes called cursus.
http://www.humanresonance.org/phi.html
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| Posted 24-02-2012 at 20:02
Seeing as how you continually use links to do your talking here's one for you .
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/pseudo/fibonacc.htm
Sequencing has a variety of meanings depending on the context , past experience suggests your definition will not be one of the accepted definitions , remember "lunar solstice "? and god knows how many others that just get ignored .
Fibonacci spirals are just one type of spiral , there are many more man made and in nature .
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On 2012-02-24 08:48, tiompan wrote:
And " Everything spirals.
And those spirals are determined by fibonacci sequencing ."
Nothing to support the outlandish claim or comment on the clear lack of Fibonacci spirals in rock art .
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On 2012-02-24 06:21, Martin_L wrote:
@Cropredy: You still have given no example for your shell-thesis:
"Shells demonstrate this brilliantly, and will be why they were incorperated into megalithic constructions to aid in the design features. " (quote from Cropredy)
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"Outlandish" great word.
I can't remember claiming there were fibonacci spirals in rock art??????
I don't think You have grasped what sequencing means, and the resultant consequences.
It won't simply be a golden spiral, but the consequence of resonant fields meeting each other.
http://www.humanresonance.org/gobekli_tepe.html
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On 2012-02-23 21:45, tiompan wrote:
That spiral like all the rock art spirals that I'm aware of is not a Fibonacci spiral .
"Shells demonstrate this brilliantly, and will be why they were incorperated into megalithic constructions "
Yes shells are found at some megalithic sites , but where are they incorporated into megalithic constructions ?
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George.
A stange thing about Le Dehus was that when first opened it was 3 ft deep in limpet shells, 2 kneeling skeletons packed in limpet shells and clay stood guard, unfortunatly before the days of photography however Frederick? Lukis daughter did some water colours which are part of the Lukis collection now the property of the Guernsey Museum, I am not sure if they are in the public domain but they were shown on Channel Television as part of a megalithic series some 20 years or so ago.
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| Posted 24-02-2012 at 22:04
Roger ,yes as mentioned shells are found at many prehistoric sites .The shells tend not to be "incorporated into megalithic structures " as at Styoney Littleton as Martin pointed out but are deposits or the structure is built over a midden. Oronsay was mentioned not only for o the size of the middens but because one of the Mesolithic deposits was of human fingers and a seal flipper .
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On 2012-02-23 21:45, tiompan wrote:
That spiral like all the rock art spirals that I'm aware of is not a Fibonacci spiral .
"Shells demonstrate this brilliantly, and will be why they were incorperated into megalithic constructions "
Yes shells are found at some megalithic sites , but where are they incorporated into megalithic constructions ?
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George.
A stange thing about Le Dehus was that when first opened it was 3 ft deep in limpet shells, 2 kneeling skeletons packed in limpet shells and clay stood guard, unfortunatly before the days of photography however Frederick? Lukis daughter did some water colours which are part of the Lukis collection now the property of the Guernsey Museum, I am not sure if they are in the public domain but they were shown on Channel Television as part of a megalithic series some 20 years or so ago.
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| Posted 24-02-2012 at 23:31
The fibonacci basis of creation is at all levels.
The rocks are merely remains of such over long time frames.
The actual spiral outcomes are complex and multi varied , but at their very fine basis is the self same method of creation, which is spiral implosion .
Where so called megalithic tombs are sited is a detectable or sets of detectable spiral implosion and emittance points.
Imploding and counter emitting is opposite spin flows that react to the fibonacci sequenced pathways of one inch wide laser like lines that are sheet like , the angles and lean of these formulate vortex pathways leading into and counter out of finite points at precise altitude.
The vortex points are therefore reachable by been naturally available at surface ..or by building up to..or digging down to that precise vortex point.
I consider that an intimate knowledge of specific available materials were utilised in construction of focussing into and out of that vortex point...these materials were to both conduct and resist the spin flows that travel along the lines and to seal about that location to create a portal between dimensions that life and death takes.
They basically knew how to return to their local tribe instead of been dispersed to the four winds along vast spiral pathways.
We view the end times of this knowledge, not the actual fully operational devices as when built.
I marvel at the local field manipulation that shells create, and find them uplifting.
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