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jonm

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| Posted 29-01-2012 at 19:34  
Anyone know what the exact position of the pits was eventually determined to be?
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tiompan

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| Posted 29-01-2012 at 19:58  
Not yet Jon , but even without the exact positions , the procession info due south from the "mid point " to the centre of the monument supplies enough on it's own to show they are wrong .
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Anyone know what the exact position of the pits was eventually determined to be?
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tDrusin

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| Posted 29-01-2012 at 23:18  
pits were probably mining excavations to test for the types of rock. A bit like a core sample. Grims Graves, Grims Groven (quarry) is a good example of what happens when they find something.
http://mythicmysteriesmiscellany.devhub.com/blog/category/early-mining/
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cropredy

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| Posted 29-01-2012 at 23:36  
This post is a little bit like the chicken and egg question.
The flint was there before they mined it.
It was there because of the location of where it was.
It formed in that precise location because of TRANSMUTATION.
The transmutation occured at that precise location because of universal geometries meeting there.
Those mining for the flint will have developed an understanding of this, and of the locations to look.
The location remains there even when mining has occured, in fact then the very very finite location of where the flint transmuted is actually available, and may have caused the miners to become ILLUMINATED.
That is their pineal glands may have been been affected by the location they attained, they thus will suddenly have KNOWN.
That is all hard to verbalise , as the knowledge and comprehension of what I am talking of is not generally understood or accepted.
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LittleEnki

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| Posted 30-01-2012 at 02:34  
Actually, cropredy, that sounds quite clear when I read it s-l-o-w-l-y-. You are probably right about the miners having a certain sixth sense for the flint, after learning the feelings they get when coming close to finding it.
I imagine pretty much every part of the Earth formed through transmutation at one time or another.
Early mining is a pretty cool subject, too, due to the unique ways they would substitute for technology and knowledge.
Upon seeing that a lot of the sites and ruins throughout the South African continent were centered around prehistoric gold mines, I chose to look into the mining of gold in South Africa from around 8,000-3500 BC. It seems that civilizations from before Sumerian writing, knew that mining gold would need to be a big part of everyday life in those days. I bet the miners had learned of the enlightening reactions that showed them where the gold was, and used them to find more.
Anyway, your post wasnt all that confusing, and I would like to hear more about the subject, so I could understand even better!
Cheers!
Littleenki(dave)
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This post is a little bit like the chicken and egg question.
The flint was there before they mined it.
It was there because of the location of where it was.
It formed in that precise location because of TRANSMUTATION.
The transmutation occured at that precise location because of universal geometries meeting there.
Those mining for the flint will have developed an understanding of this, and of the locations to look.
The location remains there even when mining has occured, in fact then the very very finite location of where the flint transmuted is actually available, and may have caused the miners to become ILLUMINATED.
That is their pineal glands may have been been affected by the location they attained, they thus will suddenly have KNOWN.
That is all hard to verbalise , as the knowledge and comprehension of what I am talking of is not generally understood or accepted.
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jonm

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| Posted 30-01-2012 at 07:22  
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Thanks George. Agreed, their theory does not appear to hold up as it appears to be mathematically impossible. I have an interesting alternative idea of what it could be for, but the idea only works if there's a certain angle between the pits relative to an East-East line.
The reason it's interesting is that the idea, if true, could predict the location of other undiscovered features at both cursuses.
Cheers
Jon
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jonm

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| Posted 30-01-2012 at 08:05  
Sorry. East-West line. Too little time. Typing without reviewing isn't a good idea.
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tiompan

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| Posted 30-01-2012 at 10:18  
Jon , seeing as they are undated (and therefore possibly not contemporaneous ), unexcavated anomalies is it worthwhile basing any ideas on their possible connection ?
George
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Thanks George. Agreed, their theory does not appear to hold up as it appears to be mathematically impossible. I have an interesting alternative idea of what it could be for, but the idea only works if there's a certain angle between the pits relative to an East-East line.
The reason it's interesting is that the idea, if true, could predict the location of other undiscovered features at both cursuses.
Cheers
Jon
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| Posted 30-01-2012 at 12:42  
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Probably not George. The idea's foundation comes from another place, so the potential link with the cursuses is just a happen-stance bonus. It would make an interesting back-reference if the angle turns out to be configured for Stonehenge's latitude.
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| Posted 30-01-2012 at 13:15  
Jon , don't be shy , what's yer angle ?
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Probably not George. The idea's foundation comes from another place, so the potential link with the cursuses is just a happen-stance bonus. It would make an interesting back-reference if the angle turns out to be configured for Stonehenge's latitude.
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tDrusin

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| Posted 30-01-2012 at 14:26  
This is a MUST SEE video of mining techniques called banka mining for alluvial plains using equipment available to bronze aged man. It also explains evidence of early core samples.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wtNK6cVRcU
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LittleEnki

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| Posted 30-01-2012 at 14:38  
Great video, Teresa, Those guys sure are tough, I wouldnt want to have had to do it that way! Were they doing it according to specific historical techniques do you know, or was this someone's idea of how to do it now?
Since meeting you, I have been reading more here and there on prehistoric mining, and find it to be a fascinating subject.
I have placed small bridge and dock pilings this way when we have run out of generator fuel, or cant use it where we are. It's a bitch to do, but effective, and if nothing a good workout
Cheers!
Dave
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This is a MUST SEE video of mining techniques called banka mining for alluvial plains using equipment available to bronze aged man. It also explains evidence of early core samples.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wtNK6cVRcU
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tDrusin

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| Posted 30-01-2012 at 14:51  
nope, it was a modern drilling. I am in contact with someone who coordinates international mining industries. He also posted that video, you can check his credentials. He's incredibly smart and because of his knowledge believes 100% mining and trade inspired all those megaliths.
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LittleEnki

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| Posted 30-01-2012 at 15:14  
That's a pretty interesting guy to keep in touch with, and after seeing that video, I am sure he is one informed fellow. Ill google him to see if he has any others, too.
The technique there was basically flawless, and with unlimited manpower, the neolithic miners would have gotten a great amount of payoff for their labor.
It's a pretty good theory about why they built some of the megaliths for trade and mining purposes. Megaliths do have a number of unnecessarily large sized stones for uses that stones half the size would have worked for. Maybe the size and girth of the Megaliths was to show how rich and powerful a trading people was in that time. Or to securely store great deals of mined gold and other precious metals. I dont know which is more likely, but I will say that neither of these theories can yet be disproven through modern knowledge and study.
I really think that you are right on more than you may realize, with some of the theories you have posted about, and in the future we will probably see one or more of these theories become fact.
Cheers!
Littleenki
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nope, it was a modern drilling. I am in contact with someone who coordinates international mining industries. He also posted that video, you can check his credentials. He's incredibly smart and because of his knowledge believes 100% mining and trade inspired all those megaliths.
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| Posted 30-01-2012 at 15:40  
thank you for your support, one of the reasons i am doing all this is because i fear we will continue down the same path we have always taken. That we once had technologies that were lost and took thousands of years to relearn is a frightening scenario. without our history as an anchor we float about heedlessly mindlessly towards our future.
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LittleEnki

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| Posted 30-01-2012 at 17:25  
Yeah, Teresa, it's a shame to think that we are barrelling down that fateful road with no brakes or lights on.
Earth's age alone gives a great chance of past civilizations, and to ignore why they are no longer here, will only hasten our downfall.
And the longer it takes for others to realize it, the farther we fall.
Cheers!
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thank you for your support, one of the reasons i am doing all this is because i fear we will continue down the same path we have always taken. That we once had technologies that were lost and took thousands of years to relearn is a frightening scenario. without our history as an anchor we float about heedlessly mindlessly towards our future.
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cropredy

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| Posted 30-01-2012 at 17:56  
LittlEnki,
Listen carefully, I am typing this very S.l.o.w.l.y, and You may forget.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4I9DMSvJxg
I think all will agree that humans have forgotten what the pits, or the cursus were for?
That's because We may have simply forgotten.
There is very little evidence of previous advanced civilizations because the planet may have forgotten.
And the memory loss may affect everything down to certain depths of the then current surface area.
Everything only exists because it is remembering to be, or not to be.
Imagine a vast flow of a force that enables memory overloading where the grand canyon is, the gap shows it's pathway, and the gap shows where previously was mass remembering to be whatever it was, then in the blink of an eye...it forgot.
No smoke or catastrophe, just space that the atmosphere then filled.
Imagine a less violent overload of this force suddenly embracing this plant, and say all in it's pathway for 3 feet down from the surface forgot to be, and only certain high points around the planet escaped.
It's a sort of tale of the great flood type, but not of water but of memory, such an event may cause great confusion to good old C14 testing???
All that may remain would be areas of where the memory loss was least effective, sort of high concentration points of the then memory flows....stonehenge, the pyramids etc etc.
But the next civilization will have no memory of WHY they were built , or how.
But there may be some of the memory still here?
I hope that was written slowly enough?
cropredy
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jonm

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| Posted 30-01-2012 at 18:20  
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This is the other one George: The one which has almost as much evidence as Stonehenge but is exceptionally difficult to explain.
In short, it's a way of proving, one way or the other, whether or not the Sun is independent of a geocentric world or dependent on it. I suppose like a test of whether or not it is an independent being. What I've just said is truly a rubbish description, but it's the best I've got.
It's not one that I can chuck together in a few minutes (like Avebury for example). The evidence is much stronger than Avebury and it's simpler conceptually than "Stonehinge" but it needs lots of graphics. I figured that I'd get Stonehinge out of the way first so I've compiled a list of Stonehenge coincidences (on the blog) and plan to work my way through that before moving on to other explanatory graphics.
Cheers
Jon
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tDrusin

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| Posted 30-01-2012 at 18:26  
you know, we are mostly made up of empty space. magnetism is all that holds together the electrons of our atomic outer shells. Its the spots we connect that count. reality is knowing through physics that u are mostly made up of empty space.......
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LittleEnki

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| Posted 30-01-2012 at 18:41  
Thanks, cropredy, it was perfectly written. My tired eyes were lagging behind earlier and couldnt keep up with the page.LOL!
I find it interesting that you correspond the loss of memories, and technology, to the great flood.
I believe the same thing, that around that time, something occurred, to alter our thoughts and beliefs, that must've been monumental. The flood, and the simultaneous events we speak of, are undeniably tied together, whether physically, or spiritually.
Sort of like the wave came and erased all of our established brainpower and reset us.
A Flood of forgetfulness.
Your idea that the disaster known as the flood could be a different kind of event is intriguing, and wholly believable.
Plants are alive and do have memory as well, and that is a cool thought that many changed their structure and appearance around the time of the "flood" due to an unexplained event, as well. Also it would be amazing if the memory erasure was controllable or applicable to certain places and times, that might be what the Tower of Babel language shift may have been caused by.
With all of the new ideas I am presented with daily from your mind, I might have to buy another hard drive to hold all of the possibilities.
I think all of the research into alternative energy I have done also lead me to believe that your descriptions of the worlds energy flows are very accurate, if not right on. I have built numerous devices to harness energy from the ether, but none have worked too well. I think Tesla had the answers in his mind, and they were lost when he was.
Another possibility for our "flood scenario" is a simple one, too.
A solar flare with enough intensity to alter DNA permanently could have occured at some point to reset our memories, or the worldwide release of a large amount of radiation from some source could have made a change in our brainpower, too.
We are just atomic creatures anyway arent we?
The opposing flows are a perfect way to describe the energy that surrounds us, and why it is so difficult to harness, when it flows everywhere!
Man is my mind smokin, now!
Cheers!
Dave
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LittlEnki,
Listen carefully, I am typing this very S.l.o.w.l.y, and You may forget.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4I9DMSvJxg
I think all will agree that humans have forgotten what the pits, or the cursus were for?
That's because We may have simply forgotten.
There is very little evidence of previous advanced civilizations because the planet may have forgotten.
And the memory loss may affect everything down to certain depths of the then current surface area.
Everything only exists because it is remembering to be, or not to be.
Imagine a vast flow of a force that enables memory overloading where the grand canyon is, the gap shows it's pathway, and the gap shows where previously was mass remembering to be whatever it was, then in the blink of an eye...it forgot.
No smoke or catastrophe, just space that the atmosphere then filled.
Imagine a less violent overload of this force suddenly embracing this plant, and say all in it's pathway for 3 feet down from the surface forgot to be, and only certain high points around the planet escaped.
It's a sort of tale of the great flood type, but not of water but of memory, such an event may cause great confusion to good old C14 testing???
All that may remain would be areas of where the memory loss was least effective, sort of high concentration points of the then memory flows....stonehenge, the pyramids etc etc.
But the next civilization will have no memory of WHY they were built , or how.
But there may be some of the memory still here?
I hope that was written slowly enough?
cropredy
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