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jonm

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| Posted 05-01-2012 at 17:14  
Hi Tom
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| the missing stone from the cove is about 3 x 1.2 paces approx, which would make the base in between the other two stones in terms of size. It was positioned where you would expect in relation to the other two stones (I did not measure, happened there by chance) |
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Did you feel it positioned to the North West and with the long side facing towards the South East? This is the primary requirement of a 'back face' stone.
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| I will upload the photos I took, but the female stone has a lot of textured lines on it, but on one of the photos both stones seem to slant to a similar angle.
I will be there again this or next month, If there is anything specific you need to know then let me know, i.e. a particular photo e.t.c |
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Thanks Tom
I'd be particulary interested if you see anything which resembles two similar man-made marks or cuts into the flattish top surface of the 'female' stone where it faces West and, particularly, if they are spaced about two feet apart: I just can't tell if there's anything there from the photos.
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| Castlerigg:
Strange, due to the similarities yet differences of stone circles I would expect a unified purpose of some description. Was this a failed attempt, or something different? |
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The angle of that stone doesn't mean anything to me: Trouble is, you can search for reasons for an angle and eventually come up with something, then persuade yourself that it means something?
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| A long shot but Have you accounted for the landscape itself being used as features? |
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The landscape seems to be great. I imagine there's something there but, like the Avebury sanctuary and so on, I've no idea what. It may be unconnected to Avebury/Stonehenge?
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Jon
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ledgehammer

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| Posted 05-01-2012 at 21:35  
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On 2012-01-05 17:14, jonm wrote:
Hi Tom
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| the missing stone from the cove is about 3 x 1.2 paces approx, which would make the base in between the other two stones in terms of size. It was positioned where you would expect in relation to the other two stones (I did not measure, happened there by chance) |
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Did you feel it positioned to the North West and with the long side facing towards the South East? This is the primary requirement of a 'back face' stone.
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| I will upload the photos I took, but the female stone has a lot of textured lines on it, but on one of the photos both stones seem to slant to a similar angle.
I will be there again this or next month, If there is anything specific you need to know then let me know, i.e. a particular photo e.t.c |
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Thanks Tom
I'd be particulary interested if you see anything which resembles two similar man-made marks or cuts into the flattish top surface of the 'female' stone where it faces West and, particularly, if they are spaced about two feet apart: I just can't tell if there's anything there from the photos.
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| Castlerigg:
Strange, due to the similarities yet differences of stone circles I would expect a unified purpose of some description. Was this a failed attempt, or something different? |
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The angle of that stone doesn't mean anything to me: Trouble is, you can search for reasons for an angle and eventually come up with something, then persuade yourself that it means something?
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The landscape seems to be great. I imagine there's something there but, like the Avebury sanctuary and so on, I've no idea what. It may be unconnected to Avebury/Stonehenge?
Cheers
Jon
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Jon,
if you p.m me with your e-mail, I will send you everything I have.
I hear you with the angle thing, from my perspective star maps and alignments with earth features e.t.c I do not understand but as a view point I agree, this is often the case with ley lines and is also the reason I follow up with fieldwork. In any case, can we catagorically know what stars were there during ancient times, what about stars that no longer exist (or the light from a dead start finished reaching us), is our perspective really that accurate?
My point with castlerigg was in reference to your theory, in that stonehenge and possibly avebury and possibly others, in that a similar structure such as castlerigg, would have had a similar function to that of stonehenge. If the coincidences extend to that of castlerigg and other megalithic circles, then your theory may hold more weight with the achademics, if not then some consideration should be given to these structures, were they copies, failed attempts or something different which coincidently appear to share some key componants of other sites.
With castlerigg, the surrounding mountain ranges may have been part of the structure as with many megalithic sites around the world, at times the landscape seems to have been used in conjunction with the sun e.t.c
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Tom
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jonm

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| Posted 07-01-2012 at 07:57  
Thanks Tom
Jon
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ledgehammer

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| Posted 15-01-2012 at 17:36  
This is a rough outline of the missing Cove stone
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Tom
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ledgehammer

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| Posted 15-01-2012 at 17:41  
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jonm

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| Posted 28-01-2012 at 11:10  
Thanks Tom
Hoping to get a look at Avebury soon. No correlation on Castlerigg. Definite apparent multiple correlations with the other place you mentioned. Haven't had time! (too much work coming in)
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Jon
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pod

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| Posted 29-01-2012 at 17:04  
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On 2011-12-20 23:07, Runemage wrote:
Hi Tom,
Several stones are known to be set very deeply, Rudston Monolith is another one. Perhaps there's a clue in the underlying geology as well as geomancy?
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Indeed - I think that soil deposition soil erosion must be taken into account We know that the henge ditch is now only a third of its original depth (deposition) and the henge outer wall much less so (erosion) I dont believe that the buried stones in Avebury were buried in the traditional sense but rather soil deposition covered them over
Like wise i don't believe the Rudston monument was orginally half buried but rather a impressive 51 foot stone with about 40 foot above the ground and just ten foot to secure it Soil deposition and gradual sinking by the stone would have left it at its modern height
we can only surmise the original looks of stone circles -
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LittleEnki

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| Posted 31-01-2012 at 15:37  
I was thinking, that the stone that is so deep was originally closer to the surface, and at some point the area around the stone may have been infilled? I'm not familiar with Avebury as much as SH, but find it to be fascinating in adifferent way.
Also, a stone that is used for energy generation, magnetic reasons, or leyline mapping would be set deeply into the Earth as a booster for ground potential. Stones have been known to settle through the years due to geographic anomalies, and that is a distinct possibility.
Perhaps even, they settled due to more older ruins lying underneath, decaying, and dropping into another strata layer. There are a lot of possibilities, for sure!
Cheers!
Littleenki
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On 2011-12-20 23:07, Runemage wrote:
Hi Tom,
Several stones are known to be set very deeply, Rudston Monolith is another one. Perhaps there's a clue in the underlying geology as well as geomancy?
Rune
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megalith6

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| Posted 24-07-2012 at 01:49  
The Cove is a crude yet effective arrangement of megaliths for determining or ritually marking the midsummer sunrise. There was a Stone 'F' which was blown up with gunpowder many years ago - this stone, before it was destroyed, sent a shadow into the Cove at the rising of the summer solstice sun. Stone 'F' must have been a 'keystone' at Avebury much like the Obelisk, that's probably why it and indeed the Obelisk were dispatched. Avebury is a unique neolithic timepiece but recent history has intentionally thrown a spanner in the works it seems.
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megalith6

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| Posted 19-09-2012 at 12:30  
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On 2012-07-24 01:49, megalith6 wrote:
The Cove is a crude yet effective arrangement of megaliths for determining or ritually marking the midsummer sunrise. There was a Stone 'F' ... |
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For a plan of Stone 'F' in relation to the North Cove please see Terence Meaden's 'The Secrets of the Avebury Stones' (1999) especially pages 79-81 where the Cove is shown in plan awaiting the midsummer sunrise, alongside a similar arrangement for the proposed Beckhampton Cove at megalithic Avebury. The thesis is that gnomon stones at Avebury cast shadows into the coves (and elsewhere) at significant times of the year, at the summer solstice dawn for the North Cove and winter solstice sunrise in respect of Beckhampton.
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tiompan

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| Posted 19-09-2012 at 13:06  
It is merely a suggestion there has never been any recording of the event and we don't know the exact relationship of the stones to be sure if the event would happen as surmised and of course even if it did there is no way of ensuring there was any intent on behalf of the builders .Coves are not common but of those we are aware no others have this effect . The Longstones at Beckhampton avenue do not have the required gnomon and once again it is supposition .
George
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On 2012-09-19 12:30, megalith6 wrote:
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On 2012-07-24 01:49, megalith6 wrote:
The Cove is a crude yet effective arrangement of megaliths for determining or ritually marking the midsummer sunrise. There was a Stone 'F' ... |
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For a plan of Stone 'F' in relation to the North Cove please see Terence Meaden's 'The Secrets of the Avebury Stones' (1999) especially pages 79-81 where the Cove is shown in plan awaiting the midsummer sunrise, alongside a similar arrangement for the proposed Beckhampton Cove at megalithic Avebury. The thesis is that gnomon stones at Avebury cast shadows into the coves (and elsewhere) at significant times of the year, at the summer solstice dawn for the North Cove and winter solstice sunrise in respect of Beckhampton.
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megalith6

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| Posted 04-10-2012 at 03:35  
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On 2012-09-19 13:06, tiompan wrote:
"it is supposition"
It is indeed, supposition based on some quite scientific observation. Well done Terence Meaden!
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tiompan

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| Posted 04-10-2012 at 09:36  
We dont the exact height of the stone or it's exact location so the suggestion is hardly scientific . Considering that the putative phenomenon has never been recorded and nobody alive today could have seen it , "Observation " is not appropriate either .
George
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On 2012-10-04 03:35, megalith6 wrote:
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On 2012-09-19 13:06, tiompan wrote:
"it is supposition"
It is indeed, supposition based on some quite scientific observation. Well done Terence Meaden!
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Runemage

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| Posted 04-10-2012 at 11:29  
Is there anything here that's relevant?
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=2146411660
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tiompan

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| Posted 04-10-2012 at 11:58  
Apart from the speculation nothing we don't already know about the Cove .btw worth mentioning afetr a very quick glance over the other stuff ,gaelic Dun means fortification not hill .
George
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