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davidmorgan
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|  Posted 06-11-2011 at 07:36
I've just returned from a sightseeing trip in Turkey and I realise that out of the 41 historical sites I visited, only 3 were pre-Hellenistic/Roman.
Sorry about that, I thought I would have done more of the really old stuff there.
However, I did enjoy following the caravan route from the Mediterranean coast to Cappadocia, along the way visiting 18 Seljuk Hans from around the 12th century CE.
Turkey has now signposted practically every historic site with a brown sign. I was pleasantly surprised when I decided to follow a sign that said "Roma Yolu" to Kurbanli Roman Road.
Here's a map of the sites I visited.
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Andy B
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| Posted 06-11-2011 at 15:54
Everyone, would we like to see David's Seljuk Hans ?
If he would like to post them of course.
I think we can bend our site age rules (Seljuk Period is 1071-1306) if there's enough interest.
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davidmorgan
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| Posted 06-11-2011 at 21:20
Probably not, Andy. I reckon they're far too recent for us (at the moment...).
Maybe you could announce that we're creeping forward in time - allow new stuff 1 new century every 2-3 months? I would definitely think that, in the case of Turkey, you would first have to include that Christian building boom that occurred after the first Council of Nicea in 325 CE, and all the other Byzantine stuff.
Anyway, the hans are a variable lot...
Sometimes delightfully situated next to a babbling brook in the pine forests near a mountain pass...
Or maybe converted into a nightclub...
Or very recently been massively reconstructed...
And sometimes huge...
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davidmorgan
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| Posted 06-11-2011 at 22:17
Some more hans...
Had a cup of tea at this one...
The inside of a han...
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Andy B
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| Posted 07-11-2011 at 17:47
Thanks David, very interesting. I know I'm terrible in trying to bend the rules. Fortunately the admins keep me in check. All photos are welcome in the forum anyway.
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ivanjohnson
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| Posted 09-11-2011 at 07:07
Those are really great, but there are millions of non-megalithic stone buildings that are really great. Personally I don't think MP should get into structures made with conventionally sized stones. I know that like me many of you are rightly fascinated by hillforts, earthworks, cave paintings, etc., but I don't think they really belong in MP either. Mainly because they're simply not megalithic. I don't care what period a site is from but I vote that it should be made of huge stones, or rock-hewn to be on MP (I can accept ENORMOUS piles of smaller stones too). We need to have a new sister website called Old Stone Portal for the non-megalithic sites!
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PAB
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| Posted 30-11-2011 at 00:10
I share davidmorgan's dilemma over whether/not to post images of fascinating places which don't quite accord with MP categories....
Some of the hans we visited last year in eastern Turkey were amazing & we I have visited some wonderful places and felt somewhat irritated when we got home to realise that I couldn't record them here in terms of the MP's definitions.
The problem with posting then on many of the other sites rests not only in their range of acceptable dates/types etc - but also in their whole tone and approach.. I rather like the courtesy and mutual respect demonstrated in the Portal!
So, on balance, I would rather have to keep non-MP material & experiences and images unpublished for now, and know that I will enjoy most visits to the Portal...as long as I don't venture too often down into the Mysteries Forum!
In case of doubt, this is a commendation to Andy & co for the way the Portal & contributors operate.
As for stones therefore, I guess I agree with ivanjohnson - but I also like the inconsistency of keeping the treasures submitted in terms of sacred wells, early crosses, etc as currently allowed under the pre-1000AD limit
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ivanjohnson
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| Posted 01-12-2011 at 05:02
I agree that the congenial atmosphere of MP is perfect for this sort of thing, and I am interested in all of it too, so perhaps make a sub-section on MP called "Non-Megalithic Sites of Interest" or something to that effect. Perhaps, if possible or practical, have that sub-section have a separate weekly e-mail news subscription. I just worry that the weekly news will begin to fill up with non-megalithic items which would start to move away from my primary interest in subscribing to the site. Such non-megalithic sites are certainly interesting and worthy.
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Andy B
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| Posted 02-12-2011 at 13:11
That's not a bad idea Ivan, we could just do this as a forum section, although I always get frustrated when sites are posted without locations (the reason I started all this in the first place).
You are very welcome to post 'other' images into our History Gallery
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=a312&file=index&do=showgall&gid=355
or Roman Gallery
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=a312&file=index&do=showgall&gid=422
just make them really nice photos and not too many of each site, we're trying to go for quality over quantity in there.
Perhaps post images in here and then discuss and link in the forum as well.
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|  Posted 01-02-2012 at 16:06
Wow, david, what a trip. Even though the age of some sites dont meet MP criteria, they were still a fabulous group of stops to visit!
I didnt see Gobekli Tepe on there, and I would assume you stayed away from it due to the local kidnapping, and crime issue in Sanliurfa.
When I went there, we werent really supposed to go near it at the time because of a dig crew there working, but a friend who lives there, got me in to look at part of it where they werent working.
It's life changing, David.
If you ever do get there, make sure you know someone in town before you go!
Great pics nonetheless, and next time hopefully you can get to a few more older sites!
Cheers!
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davidmorgan
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| Posted 14-02-2012 at 10:23
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| On 2012-02-01 16:06, LittleEnki wrote:
I didnt see Gobekli Tepe on there, and I would assume you stayed away from it due to the local kidnapping, and crime issue in Sanliurfa.
When I went there, we werent really supposed to go near it at the time because of a dig crew there working, but a friend who lives there, got me in to look at part of it where they werent working.
It's life changing, David.
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I stayed a night in Urfa in '04 but didn't get to see Göbekli Tepe (had a quick look round Harran).
I found the people there very hospitable and helpful, I don't know of any crime issues there (apart from the youths at Harran who appeared at first to be a little aggressive but I engaged one of them as a guide to show me around, so no real problems).
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