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Andy B
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|  Posted 17-09-2011 at 17:08
If anyone has a bored moment and would like to help us, you could try and locate any of these sites that we have listed that don't have long/lat coordinates, so are not currently plotted on our maps. (Or OS map refs in the case of UK or Irish sites).
You may be able to find the coordinates from a simple web search. There are a few dozen sites like this in Malta, Southern Ireland and Spain.
Please leave a comment on the page for the site if you have any information.
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/siteswithoutcoordinates.php
Thanks!
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Andy B
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| Posted 17-09-2011 at 20:29
Thanks to Tiompan for locating some of the Scottish ones. It appears some were repeats of existing stones we had listed under other names so I've combined the pages. Some useful tidying up done.
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davidmorgan
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| Posted 18-09-2011 at 09:56
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Yes, I found one that had three site pages!
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| Posted 18-09-2011 at 10:14
Some comments on the outstnding Scottish examples .
Aoradh on Islay is the site of a stone commemorating a battle but not prehistoric NR 2735 6735
Duncracaig : Is there a Duncracaig in Argyll ? possibly Dunchraigaig which is close to the Ballymeanoch stones .
Ben Rulibreck :There is a possible standing stone near the grid ref ,I’ll post a pic but nothing like a maze .
Scar : No standing stone near the only Scar (Sanday)on Orkney .
Westray Stone :As in the site page ,in the Tankerness Museum kirkwall HY 4485 1086 .
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Andy B
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| Posted 18-09-2011 at 11:18
Thanks, I have deleted Aoradh and turned the Westray stone one into a listing for Tankerness House Museum.
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| Posted 18-09-2011 at 12:42
Sorted the stone in Devon (must have drivenpast it several times without knowing it was there!), and the French ones.
For the Avebury Polisher, I know people dont want its position given away (although it is elsewhere), but do we think it should be given an approximate position so it appears in keeping with all else?
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Andy B
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| Posted 18-09-2011 at 14:03
I've put in approximate positions for the polisher stone, and the Ridgeway as well
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davidmorgan
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| Posted 18-09-2011 at 21:40
A "bored moment"?! Blimey, that's addictive. Seems like a lot from "Anonymous" in '01 that are hard to find.
P.S. Why don't you publish a list of "accuracy=0" sites, Andy?
[ This message was edited by: davidmorgan on 2011-09-18 21:44 ]
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| Posted 18-09-2011 at 22:43
The carved stone from Pierowall Quarry Tomb now lives in the Westray Heritage Centre in Pierowall. Scar is a 20 ton erratic "...Stone o' Scar ?" "Oh, the "Saville Stone" ... a great big round stone, it lies a little distance from the house of Scar in a small enclosure, having been removed from its original site near the farm house of Saville many years ago by Col. Harwood." (1939)
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Thanks, I have deleted Aoradh and turned the Westray stone one into a listing for Tankerness House Museum.
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Andy B
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| Posted 18-09-2011 at 23:00
> P.S. Why don't you publish a list of "accuracy=0" sites, Andy?
Yes, although I should try processing these automatically, 6 digit grid refs could be given an accuracy of 4 and sites with 8 digit or better would get a 5, thanks
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TheCaptain
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| Posted 19-09-2011 at 02:25
Be very wary if you do that. Many sites have been given lat and long with many decimal places of accuracy, when in actuality, they are sometimes not even in the correct community, and can be miles and miles out....
That would be VERY misleading, and hard to be able to correct. That is something which should only be done in the other direction.
Only on Friday I was correcting supposedly "accurate" Stanton Drew grid refs which were about a mile away.
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SolarMegalith
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| Posted 19-09-2011 at 10:16
I have found location of Dolmen Prado de Las Cruces. It was actually marked on panoramio, so it's worth to give a try to locations of more Spanish sites.
edit: it had two sitepages, I have merged them into 1.
[ This message was edited by: SolarMegalith on 2011-09-19 10:21 ]
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Andy B
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| Posted 19-09-2011 at 18:24
Martyn,
I understand your concern with over zealous accuracy, however we have had the accuracy indicator for at least 5 years now, it's compulsory for all new sites and we have all been adding accuracy manually as we edit sites. However as of now we still have
5220 sites with 6 digit grid refs and no accuracy indication and
1203 sites with 8 digit grid refs but no accuracy.
This is out of 12777 sites with grid refs (ie UK and Irish sites)
I agree that we can't infer an accuracy from sites that just have long/lat but as of now just about half of our UK and Irish sites with grid refs don't have any accuracy set at all.
So if we were to do a sweep through once setting the missing ones then yes some might be wrong but wouldn't it be an improvement overall? Perhaps accuracy 3 'bad map' for 6 digits and 4 'detailed map' for 8 digits (which would be a bit more conservative on the accuracy front than we do by hand)
Andy
(in other words if we were to publish a list of "accuracy=0" sites it would be about 6000 sites long so not very manageable to sort out by hand!)
[ This message was edited by: Andy B on 2011-09-19 18:36 ]
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| Posted 20-09-2011 at 00:21
I have been a bit busy of late but will do something abut some of the Eirann sites.
There is a small problem in as much as for instance Cappanaboul, the site you are trying to pin down is listed as a menhir. Without more information it could be any one of twenty or so in the area.
Similarly another is listed a wedge tomb and although not common there is more than one that could be given that townland name.
Should I just pick the best candidates and go for that?
I haven,t added anything so far this year because the weather here has been total crap!
Roll on winter it may be dryer.
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| Posted 20-09-2011 at 06:30
Netherlands "G2"
In fact it is "G2 Glimmer es"
I created a site page some time ago in 2010. It is almost completely destroyed, but position is known and some pit remains.
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=27265. These sites without coordinates are impossible/difficult to find when adding a new site page: Back in 2010 I used the "search", but "G2" was not displayed. And as it had no coordinates the "search for nearby sites" did not help either. Will delete the "G2" site page in the evening.
Martin
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Andy B
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| Posted 20-09-2011 at 09:10
> Should I just pick the best candidates and go for that?
Yes, thanks FC
Martin, that does seem to be why so many are repeats, as we didn't know they were there. It's good to get the duplicates deleted.
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| Posted 20-09-2011 at 10:12
I now know more about minor Maltese sites than I intended (and next to nothing about the major ones!). Some nice "cart tracks", though.
I don't know how the site page selects Panoramio photos, but I think it should be picking up these photos here at the Xemxija Roman Apiaries.
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davidmorgan
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| Posted 20-09-2011 at 18:18
I see the Mallorcan equivalent of a "Broch or Nuraghe" is a "Talayot".
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Andy B
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| Posted 20-09-2011 at 19:13
> I don't know how the site page selects Panoramio photos, but I think it should be picking up these photos here at the Xemxija Roman Apiaries.
It's done by querying all the Panoramio images within a 1km (I think) radius of the long/lat location we have set. So if an image isn't coming up, either our coordinates are out, or the Panoramio ones are out.
Thanks also locating news items, we just had big upload of news (for which thanks to you Coldrum as well!)
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TheCaptain
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| Posted 21-09-2011 at 00:47
sorry to not reply before - stupidly busy at the moment. We are currently tasked with doing a job which has failed to be done in the last 8 months - with a 2 week time frame.
I guess if you mean the UK OS grid ref sites with no accuracy rating, then most will probably be OK.
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