On 2011-06-23 21:45, SecretsoftheSunSects wrote:
George

I guess I am out of luck then, since a solar building would hardly have a hearth, maybe that's the problem? Probably no a very good idea having a fire in a tent anyway, unless one wishes to make a new tent each week. The amerindians do manage it of course.

At school every English kid is taught that the romans used to build their new temples next to the pagan sites. Eventually the pagan sites fell into disrepair as the attendance dropped because everyone loved a good old roman sing song. At this point the the residents took the stones. I know it is a crass place to learn history, but the ethos still runs today, inner city churches are being reconsecrated as mosques.

Some of the finest pagan altar stones can be found in the best cathedrals according to Prof Fell. The irony is lost on the christian builders.

Of course the best sites were built over, what scholar thinks that the neoliths did not populate the most conducive environments next to rivers and other useful things. Look under Leamington spa, bath, coventry, birmingham ....Wherever there was water, there were neoliths. The sites we have left are really at the edges of the neolithic empire. Do you seriously think they only inhabited the remote spots where the circles are found?

You are beginning to make me think I am in a crowd of one.

Chris

On 2011-06-23 22:03, SecretsoftheSunSects wrote:
George

I just looked at your types of structures, you guys are the experts, you tell me which of the chambered cairns, brocks, narghe, barrows, etc...

Yes tombs and religious centers, well that seems to be just about all that was built in any age according to the standard view. Oast houses narghe, cairns - caves, barrows - caves, circles roundhouses and tents. There some sardinian examples still with the roofs on.

first chambered cairn I looked at in loughcrew seems a contender, even shows the sun landing on the nice stone at the back. Would be nice to find a type with altar stones in them, but as previous post indicated one would need to know which the various inheritors did not take. I am sure a few on this board know. Can't help wondering why people would lug stones huge distances from wales when any old stone will do?

Hey george if you do not wish to think that the neoliths actually lived indoors that is ok with me. All they did was ritualize and bury the dead if thats what you want to think. However, if you think there is a chance the functions supported the people in a useful way, carry on.

The accounts Herodotus lays out in Histories when the Egyptians are telling him the proto history of Egypt.

Chris

On 2011-06-24 09:34, SecretsoftheSunSects wrote:
George

I am glad I did not bother to forage about for the classical texts references for you, since you have dissed just about any ancient text or people that comes close to the time.

The picture on this website clearly shows the sun going into the chamber and hitting a stone at the back that someone at some time has deigned to mark with their religious symbols.
What color are the stones of baal that ancient britons danced around naked?
Take any old quote of celtic gods 'The Celtic fire festival on the first of May, known as Beltane, (the fires of Bel) is probably derived from the name of this deity. Beltane fires were lit to encourage the sun's warmth. These fires also had restorative properties and cattle were herded between them before being loosed on the new spring pastures. From this it is likely that Beli was a fire deity, a patron of flame and the sun's restorative powers (which explains his classical association with Apollo). Originally he may have been a pastoral deity and in Cymric myth is associated with cattle, sheep and cropt. Though this may be because Beltane was the time that herds were moved to the high pastures. '

Bel, baali, bile whatever appellation you want to try, sun god! Can't find an altar stone, well I suggest you aren't looking hard enough.

As for the lack of evidence for these comments, apart from common sense on the roof,

''There is also no evidence for any of the following .
Doors metal covered or otherwise ,paving to the ditch , a roof at Stonehenge or any stone circle for that matter .
Posts outwith the megaliths and close to the ditch of Stonehenge to hold the roof up .''

I agree I have not provided the source for these yet, but as you can not accept any historian regardless of how noble and dull his observations were, like these following quotes.

''Stonehenge being “clearly a fort or remains of a palace “.
Stonehenge referred to by any Roman historian .
Roman soldiers fighting a battle in stone circle .
Britain trading with Egypt before the first Dynasties .''

I guess I am not going to have any success with less reputable sources. Just what sources do you consider valid, where do you get your view exactly?

Ah!, you are a druid priest, with a lineage back to the dawn of Britic civilization, now I get the objections to the boring roman and greek texts.

Chris

On 2011-06-24 12:41, TheCaptain wrote:
I think you are on to something here cerrig. It fits into place a lot better than any of the other theories we have been subjected to in the past. But clearly you have more reearch and refinement to do before it will become accepted by either the establishment, hippies, neopagans or the general masses.

I am a bit uncertain as to how these Nessies were originally moved from Wales to Wiltshire. Did they come by boat, overland or by glacial movement? Perhaps they were locked frozen into the icesheet.