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sem
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|  Posted 02-06-2011 at 21:28
Over the last 12 months I have logged about 50 cairns West of the Brecon Beacons but trying to match them to the Coflein ( Welsh RCAHM) has been a nightmare. Most seem to have been last surveyed 1983-85 before GPS was in common use.
Are there any suggestions as to how to present and name them on MP? Yes, GPS co-ords are fine but when you see a cairn 18m in diameter and 3m tall (after it's denuded) Mynydd-y-Something Northwest 1 doesn't seem right.
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Andy B
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| Posted 02-06-2011 at 22:10
Sem, I don't see an alternative to what you suggest unless there is a better local placename you can pick up on. If they are in close groups I would say you don't need to do a site page for every one, just the group and then put the details on there.
I'll look forward to seeing the details when ready
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| Posted 16-06-2011 at 12:12
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On 2011-06-02 21:28, sem wrote:
Over the last 12 months I have logged about 50 cairns West of the Brecon Beacons but trying to match them to the Coflein ( Welsh RCAHM) has been a nightmare. Most seem to have been last surveyed 1983-85 before GPS was in common use.
Are there any suggestions as to how to present and name them on MP? Yes, GPS co-ords are fine but when you see a cairn 18m in diameter and 3m tall (after it's denuded) Mynydd-y-Something Northwest 1 doesn't seem right.
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Hi Sem
It might be better to get the information from the Historic Environment Record (HER) held by Cambria Archaeology rather than using the RCAHM records.
In fact as a general rule its always better to use HERs as they contain far better (and more) records than national datasets.
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sem
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| Posted 16-06-2011 at 20:54
Karloff
Many thanks for that.
Sem
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| Posted 16-06-2011 at 22:31
Sem, I found a similar story around Rhayader. Some sites listed on Coflein didn't exist at all, but the local HER did list similar sites in the general area. But, like Coflein, the HER also listed non existant sites (not listed on Coflein )? The dates for the listings are all from the 90's or earlier, and they are attributed to the National Trust.
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| Posted 17-06-2011 at 21:00
On a visit to the Glamorgan Gwent Archaeology Trust today, I think I may well have found part of the answer. Due to funding GGAT are not allowed to check out sites already checked by other bodies. Economically it makes sense, but it does mean that Joe Public has to do a bit of leg-work to investigate records.
The computer map-system they have there is fantastic. Pick a site and then check numerous maps of different dates to see when it was first shown.
Staff were very helpful, especially Sue for the records and Charina for the shortbread. I still haven't got an exact location for Pond Cairn in Coity but suspect I may know why.
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| Posted 17-06-2011 at 23:57
Aah, thought I might find something!
http://www.bracklaordnance.co.uk/8%20x%20s.htm
Pond Cairn is located NorthEast of the roundabout and just out of view, Simondston Cairn is East of the pic and out of view. Both were excavated by Sir Cyril Fox in 1937 and "destroyed" in the process. Brackla ridge later became a nuclear "command" shelter.
Funny that SirC excavated and destroyed two huge cairns just as an enormous munitions bunker was being built.
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