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On 2011-06-01 22:30, Kagaku wrote:
I advise you to look up a dictionary.......a good one
You will find all the translations you need clearly entered there
the small lake of angles translation that you find on the web does not include the secondary meaning .....and that is Temporal
Temporal means transient and "of this world".
thus if you do what can be done in Japanese/Chinese you have one word with two meanings....combining the two gives the meaning of small lake of "angle" PLUS "of this world".
I included the translation as also including the meaning temporal in the paper....
The Lurg Mohr translation given in the internet is clearly wrong.....
because I do know some Gaelic, and the word for ridge is Druim.
Mohr has again multiple meanings including great and Important.
Thus the secondary translation of Lurg Mohr can be important path. Lurg Mohr does NOT mean Big Ridge, and it is not the biggest ridge in the area anyway.
So in both cases I am fairly happy with these translations because I do know some gaelic.
If you use a good dictionary you will find all the above......
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I have referred to some web based translations to allow you to see them . At no time have you you mentioned any translation to support your suggestions web or text based . The original translation I gave you for Lurg was from Maclennans dictionary and probably more importantly from a place name perspective W.J Watson in the seminal " Celtic Place Names of Scotland has the same translation .Lurg :Shin ,Shank ,,stem or stalk . This has gievn rise to the place name Lurgan of which there are three in Scotland an even more in Ireland . Lurg is found in 23 cases in Scotland and is usually translated as ridge as the they are obviously not literally shanks . Also mentioned much earlier is the word Lorg which in Dwelly and Maclennan is described as ,a mark ,footprint and in old Irish track ,note this is Lorg not Lurg .
Maclennan has Oisean :corner ,angle ,nook and Oiseanach :angular ,have a look at the shape of the loch it's an uncommon but appropriate description plus there is nothing to suggest any reference to world .
Gaelic being based in hilly and sea based topography has a number of words for various topographical features . Just as there are a variety of terms for a hill top depending on the type i.e. Beinn ,Sgurr Carn , Maol etc , Druim as I had mentioned in an earlier post does mean ridge but it is usually associated with wide flat ridges as is Mullach or Creachann , Aonach is used for narrow rocky ones as is Lurg etc .
As in the case of your interpretation of the Eassie stone have still failed to show one example of a "good " dictionary or web based source that supports your translations and interpretation .
George
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| Posted 02-06-2011 at 10:24
Never let the facts get in the way of a "good" theory....
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| Posted 25-07-2011 at 08:47
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| Posted 25-07-2011 at 10:46
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On 2011-07-25 08:47, Kagaku wrote:
Have now taken the theory about as far as I can for the moment...
latest data at Midnightsciencejournal.com
Going back to the Oisinneach translation......I have been unable to find the dictionary that provided the word "temporal" as a secondary translation. Originally I found it on two separate websites; so I assumed it was a generally agreed translation.
.....But as I can now no longer find the websites that translation has been removed...
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A few posts back you said "The moral from this is do not trust internet translations......because everyone copies everyone and they are not always the only possibility"
Looks like you were right .
Can you now find any dictionary or web based source that supports your translation of Lurg Mhor ?
George
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| Posted 25-07-2011 at 12:02
McBain Gaelic Dictionary_
lurg
shank OI lurgan
lorc
shank (Carm.):
lorg
a staff, Irish, Early Irish lorg, Cornish lorc'h, baculus, Breton lorc'hen, temo: *lorgo-, Norse lurkr, a cudgel (Bez., Cam.).
lorg
track, footstep, Irish, Early Irish lorg, Old Irish lorc, trames, lorgarecht, indago, Welsh llyr, course duct, Cornish lergh, lerch Breton lerc'h, track: *lorgo-. Bez. compares L.German lurken, creep. Rhys adds Welsh llwrw, direction (Manx Pray.@+2, 127).
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What is an X mark, please?
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| Posted 25-07-2011 at 12:30
Why is Tampere Finland so significant? You have compressed the Tropics laterally while expanding the Arctic in your map, and this makes the lines become curves in reality.
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| Posted 25-07-2011 at 13:06
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On 2011-07-25 12:02, chimera wrote:
McBain Gaelic Dictionary_
lurg
shank OI lurgan
lorc
shank (Carm.):
lorg
a staff, Irish, Early Irish lorg, Cornish lorc'h, baculus, Breton lorc'hen, temo: *lorgo-, Norse lurkr, a cudgel (Bez., Cam.).
lorg
track, footstep, Irish, Early Irish lorg, Old Irish lorc, trames, lorgarecht, indago, Welsh llyr, course duct, Cornish lergh, lerch Breton lerc'h, track: *lorgo-. Bez. compares L.German lurken, creep. Rhys adds Welsh llwrw, direction (Manx ray.@+2" target="_new">Pray.@+2, 127).
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The difference between Lurg and Lorg was pointed out a long time ago . Lurg is a common topographical term in relation hills in the Gaeltacht , Lorg is usually found in more lowland areas .There is no reason to even have a Lorg at the point and evrey reason to have a Lurg as it has always been denoted .Lurg mhor is visted by munro baggers on an almost daily basis there and there are plenty of examples of the obvious transaltion . It is at least possible to point out factual problems but if someone believes something like the X s or lines around the country /globe then your'e wasting your time trying to convince them otherwise .
George
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| Posted 25-07-2011 at 13:17
Yes but it's fun isn't it.
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| Posted 25-07-2011 at 13:45
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On 2011-07-25 13:17, chimera wrote:
Yes but it's fun isn't it.
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Up to a point , but you can get a lot of abuse , which makes me think it best ,as most sensible people have probably decided long and is apparent by their non intervention , to stay quiet and just groan and suffer them gladly .
George
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| Posted 25-07-2011 at 13:57
Here we go then:
"In support of the proposed importance of the star map on other early cultures, in Australia the presence of the Ophiuchus and the snake like Eridanus constellations is apparently marked by Warumungu Australian Aborigine culture. The Warumungu live around Uluru/Ayers Rock which appears to be an alignment site that aligns the viewer back towards Scotland. There the Warumungu worship a rainbow coloured snake."
groan.
The Coca-Cola logo aligns the viewer with N America and Eurasia in coded lines around the can. Beer froth is less certain.
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| Posted 26-07-2011 at 12:07
There's a simple test for a star map:
If the map is true, it will be able to predict the location of undiscovered monuments. If it can reliably do this, then the land, together with appropriate ransom strips, could be purchased in advance of the discovery of the monument(s) themselves.
This provides a speculative yield for investors with the bonus of income from the control of access to the site and its associated amusement park facilities.
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| Posted 26-07-2011 at 12:47
Only if the curved earth was further curved by the ancients to match your distorted maps. That leads straight to :
twaddle - definition of twaddle by the Free Online Dictionary ...
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intr.v. twad·dled, twad·dling, twad·dles. To talk foolishly; prate. n. Foolish, trivial, or idle talk or chatter. [Probably variant of dialectal twattle, ...
Urban Dictionary: twaddle
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twaddle nonsense poppycock rubbish piffle balderdash bunkum prattle baloney claptrap bunk hogwash trifle jibber jabber rot crap lies junk humbug trotyl ...
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| Posted 26-07-2011 at 13:42
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On 2011-07-26 12:47, chimera wrote:
Only if the curved earth was further curved by the ancients to match your distorted maps. That leads straight to :
twaddle - definition of twaddle by the Free Online Dictionary ...
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/twaddle - CachedSimilar
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intr.v. twad·dled, twad·dling, twad·dles. To talk foolishly; prate. n. Foolish, trivial, or idle talk or chatter. [Probably variant of dialectal twattle, ...
Urban Dictionary: twaddle
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twaddle nonsense poppycock rubbish piffle balderdash bunkum prattle baloney claptrap bunk hogwash trifle jibber jabber rot crap lies junk humbug trotyl ...
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Chimera,
It's good to have such an expert on the subject of twaddle here.
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| Posted 26-07-2011 at 23:39
Yes the experts gather here, but you're not as humble about it as some.
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| Posted 27-07-2011 at 16:09
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| Posted 27-07-2011 at 16:19
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| Posted 27-07-2011 at 16:24
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On 2011-07-25 13:57, chimera wrote:
Here we go then:
"In support of the proposed importance of the star map on other early cultures, in Australia the presence of the Ophiuchus and the snake like Eridanus constellations is apparently marked by Warumungu Australian Aborigine culture. The Warumungu live around Uluru/Ayers Rock which appears to be an alignment site that aligns the viewer back towards Scotland. There the Warumungu worship a rainbow coloured snake."
groan.
The Coca-Cola logo aligns the viewer with N America and Eurasia in coded lines around the can. Beer froth is less certain.
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Arghhh
I hadn't realized that Coca-Cola cans could be used 
Damn, I have to go back and search for Coca-Cola petroglyphs now
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| Posted 27-07-2011 at 17:46
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| Posted 27-07-2011 at 18:00
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On 2011-07-27 17:46, Kagaku wrote:
I completed a search using Google and could only find this type of Glyph at Irkutsk in Russia, Iona in Scotland, Tasmania, and the Southwest USA.
I'm trying to see if this is a glyph unique to sites described by the map, or is it a common glyph found everywhere.
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Petroglyph /geoglyph on Iona ? Got a pic ?
George
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| Posted 28-07-2011 at 00:27
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