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Stones Forum >> What are these stone figures (Rams) called?
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h_fenton
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|  Posted 23-10-2010 at 19:29
below is a picture of a stone ram that I took in Azerbaijan, I see that they are collectively referred to as 'Ancient Stone Figures'. but can anyone tell me what they really are called and how old they are?
my searches on the internet had led me to nothing at all which makes me think that I am missing something.
thanks
Hamish
(the nose of the ram is missing)
[ This message was edited by: h_fenton on 2010-10-23 19:30 ]
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Runemage
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|  Posted 24-10-2010 at 00:45
Google isn 't turning up much, did you see this suggestion of gravestones, although there's no illustration.
http://iwpr.net/report-news/azerbaijan-famous-medieval-cemetery-vanishes
"Historian Argam Aivazian, the principal expert on the Armenian monuments of Nakhichevan, said that Jugha was a unique monument of medieval art and the largest Armenian cemetery in existence. There were unique tombstones shaped like rams, a church and the remains of a massive stone bridge. Nowhere else in the world, he said, was there such a big concentration of thousands of khachkars in one place."
Ram-shaped tombstones are also mentioned but there are no pics in this wiki article either.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julfa,_Azerbaijan_%28city%29#The_archaeological_site_of_Old_Julfa_and_destruction_of_the_Julfa_cemetery
"According to Argam Aivazian's investigations at the cemetery from 1971 to 1973, there were, either upright or fallen, 462 khachkars on the first cemetery hill, 1,672 khachkars on the second, and 573 on the third. In addition to these khachkars there were in the same cemetery more than a thousand ram-shaped, gabled, or flat tombstones. An additional 250 khachkars were counted in the cemetery of the nearby Amenaprkich monastery and in other parts of the city site. The number of khachkars and ram-shaped tombstones buried in the earth or in fragments, in the main cemetery and elsewhere, was estimated to be more than 1,400.[12]"
There's a list of clickable "stone figure of a ram" links listed as XVIII Century in the Ministry of Culture and Tourism of Azerbaijan's website.
But no pictures I could see.
http://www.mct.gov.az/?/en/abide/
for example,
Stone figure of a ram
Category: Figure
Type: Archaeological
Importance: Bearing local importance
Reserve: Monuments
Complex: Decorative – applied art exhibits
Century: XVIII century
General complex: Folk stone – sculpture monuments
Address: In 1 km. far from Nuvedi village, grave-yard
Inventory number: 6213
Cities: Lerik city
If no-one here can shed any light on it, perhaps an email to the Royal Asiatic Society would bring some specialised knowledge?
http://www.royalasiaticsociety.org/site/?q=taxonomy/term/8
[ This message was edited by: Runemage on 2010-10-24 00:50 ]
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Gorient
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| Posted 24-10-2010 at 08:46
Could it be something to do with the Bezoar Goat, or Persian Ibex, as seen on the rock engravings at Gobustan?
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h_fenton
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| Posted 17-11-2010 at 23:51
Thanks for that Runemage,
These do seem to be commonly listed as gravestones, the Armenian examples along with those from areas disputed with Azerbaijan are mostly said to date fron the 18thCenturyAD. Some examples I have found in Eastern Turkey give a date range of 15th-16thCenturyAD, so all clearly too late for the Megalithic Portal.
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