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Dowser

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| Posted 28-10-2009 at 17:26  
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On 2009-10-28 13:43, Rich32 wrote:
Is Rock Art 'art'.... now thats a can of worms
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And now: cart ruts...Some pics shows that they couldn,t be used as routes for vehicles....so for what they were made?Are they human made?
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Chyknel2

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| Posted 28-10-2009 at 18:00  
"a scenario just pops up......in my head"
Ah well, that I can at least understand. There is nothing you can transmit to the rest of us that will "help" us to do the same. Somehow, I don't think anything will just pop into my head no matter how open minded, willing or keen I am
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vlad

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| Posted 28-10-2009 at 18:42  
You`d like Chuang Tzu`s famous anecdote about the fish - see "Stone-Age sensitivity".
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Rich32

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| Posted 28-10-2009 at 18:55  
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On 2009-10-28 17:26, Dowser wrote:
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And now: cart ruts...Some pics shows that they couldn,t be used as routes for vehicles....so for what they were made?Are they human made?
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It's the question "what is art?" .....each has their own view.
Re - cart ruts. Am I allowed to sit on the fence, I dont know anything about them.
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Dowser

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| Posted 28-10-2009 at 19:32  
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On 2009-10-28 18:55, Rich32 wrote:
And now: cart ruts...Some pics shows that they couldn,t be used as routes for vehicles....so for what they were made?Are they human made?
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Re - cart ruts. Am I allowed to sit on the fence, I dont know anything about them.
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>-----------------------------> Don't worry about it...nobody knows.
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AlbertResonox

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| Posted 29-10-2009 at 09:42  
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On 2009-10-28 19:32, Dowser wrote:
Don't worry about it...nobody knows.
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How very strange to ask questions about...and dismiss possibilities for cart-ruts then,especially if you start with the notion that "nobody knows"..it is an assumption that you will never get any satisfying answers...so why perpetuate the debate?
It looks very much like you have only started this to create dissention instead of seeking enlightenment.
Am I right??
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davidmorgan

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| Posted 29-10-2009 at 10:21  
Here's a list of some cart ruts:
http://webspace.webring.com/people/iu/um_1967/forcar.html
I saw the ones at Agrigento once.
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Dowser

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| Posted 29-10-2009 at 14:11  
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On 2009-10-29 09:42, AlbertResonox wrote:
How very strange to ask questions about...and dismiss possibilities for cart-ruts then,especially if you start with the notion that "nobody knows"..it is an assumption that you will never get any satisfying answers...so why perpetuate the debate?
It looks very much like you have only started this to create dissention instead of seeking enlightenment.
Am I right??>------------> Albert...you?...Always!!!
I suppose I have explanation , but first ,I must to prove it
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AlbertResonox

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| Posted 29-10-2009 at 14:17  
So when you said"Nobody knows!"....you meant that "Nobody but YOU knows"???
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Dowser

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| Posted 29-10-2009 at 14:36  
>-------------> What was your first impression? Are they human made ,or natural?What kind of rock is in Agrigento? Limestone?
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Dowser

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| Posted 29-10-2009 at 16:22  
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On 2009-10-29 14:17, AlbertResonox wrote:
So when you said"Nobody knows!"....you meant that "Nobody but YOU knows"???
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(I used three exclamation points as an answer to your three question marks...)
[ This message was edited by: Dowser on 2009-10-29 16:29 ]
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davidmorgan

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| Posted 29-10-2009 at 16:29  
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What was your first impression? Are they human made, or natural? |
| They are ruts made by carts. (I didn't realise you were talking about something else, sorry).
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Dowser

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| Posted 29-10-2009 at 17:13  
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On 2009-10-29 16:29, davidmorgan wrote:
quote]They are ruts made by carts. (I didn't realise you were talking about something else, sorry).
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And pic 42,it shows "megalithic tank" ruts?
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davidmorgan

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| Posted 30-10-2009 at 11:30  
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And pic 42,it shows "megalithic tank" ruts? |
| It could be a natural formation, it's sedimentary limestone in Malta - it could be a frozen ripple in the seabed.
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AlbertResonox

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| Posted 30-10-2009 at 11:56  
David,you'll only be told your explanation is too naive because the tracks are halfway up a cliffside or some such tripe...it seems we don't have any idea why fossilised sea creatures,pebbles sand deposits are found up what are now cliffs...because only one person knows!!!
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Dowser

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| Posted 30-10-2009 at 14:00  
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On 2009-10-30 11:30, davidmorgan wrote:
[quote]On 2009-10-29 17:13, Dowser wrote:
And pic 42,it shows "megalithic tank" ruts? |
| It could be a natural formation, it's sedimentary limestone in Malta - it could be a frozen ripple in the seabed.
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>--------------> http://www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk/maltacartruts.htm , scroll down to :Some interesting features of the San Gwann cart-ruts.
Could it be made by cart wheels?
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AlbertResonox

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| Posted 31-10-2009 at 23:53  
When all the earth was very soft...prototypes of the plough(invented approx. 1500 BC)were being tried out and left their marks...much the same as the stoneage footprints in the sands of the Mersey...hence the differing depths and routes.
Occam's Razor!!
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Dowser

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| Posted 01-11-2009 at 08:09  
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On 2009-10-31 23:53, AlbertResonox wrote:
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This sounds reasonable! Something like serious,archeological theory.... I have to think about....
I 'll add it to the list of my favorite major archaeological theory:
1) Barrows represent megalithic vision of idea of cosmic mountain of universe...
2) Rock art is an effect of shamanic narcotic visions....
3) Cup marks are megalithic woman's intime calendars....
4) Our ancestors appointed ley lines with ropes and pegs ...
5) Alignements were the processions routes...
6)All Albert's theories...
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Runemage

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| Posted 01-11-2009 at 09:42  
When all the earth was very soft...prototypes of the plough(invented approx. 1500 BC)were being tried out and left their marks...much the same as the stoneage footprints in the sands of the Mersey...hence the differing depths and routes.
The blade of a plough has to be angled in order to lift and turn the soil.
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AlbertResonox

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| Posted 01-11-2009 at 11:00  
So there must have been a lot of trial and error to get it right before selling the invention to the agrarian newcomers
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