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|  Posted 09-09-2009 at 08:44
Hi all,
sorry i seem to be subverting this thread, unintentionally, by replying to questions.
Sorry!
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| Posted 09-09-2009 at 13:57
Unintentionally answering questions or unintentionally subverting the thread???
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| Posted 09-09-2009 at 14:19
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On 2009-09-09 08:44, MuddyMick wrote:
Hi all,
sorry i seem to be subverting this thread, unintentionally, by replying to questions.
Sorry!
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Not so ,oh wise one.
Is that not the purpose of shaman, to talk and influence the spirit/s of the ones listening, here and in other places?
What is a modern shaman?
Is the t'internet the shamans abode?
A strange invisable place where all upon the globe can hear.
Kevin
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| Posted 09-09-2009 at 17:56
ahahaaaaaa
ah dear...
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| Posted 17-09-2009 at 21:39
Jesus Christ, miraculous healer.
SHAMAN?
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| Posted 17-09-2009 at 23:25
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On 2009-09-17 21:39, mynd wrote:
Jesus Christ, miraculous healer.
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Studied with the Druids at Stonehenge for that purpose I think that's what's intimated here
http://www.eternalidol.com/?page_id=535
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| Posted 18-09-2009 at 05:41
Many myths/theories abound about where Jesus was educated...Egypt,India,Britain even Venus...the Egypt one..during his early childhood after his family fled there in his infanthood...India & Britain..being the son of a carpenter/woodworker he was apprenticed to a shipwright he either stowed away or travelled under a relative/friend's patronage on a trading voyage....Venus...well I can't come up with a plausible theory for that!!!(mind you there is that song ..Twas on the good ship venus.........no lets not offend sensibilities)
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| Posted 18-09-2009 at 11:50
And did those feet, in ancient times, walk upon England's mountains green?
And was the holy lamb of God... etc
Well, without reading the book it's difficult to comment but I would be reluctant to state anything it claims as a fact - especially about stonehenge. Lovely romantic idea, though. I wonder does it attempt to tie his presence here with the Roman invasion of Britain. Didn't the Romans vandalise stonehenge? I know there was a rumour they built it... ho hum
Ehr - I don't think it's at all 'mysterious' that the bible misses out those years. He was probably not doing anything very interesting. It's likely the donkey / Bethlehem thing was fabricated - not to mention the virgin birth. That was all written something like 90 years afterwards. Why would they bother filling in the gap? Charles Darwin's autobiography misses out much of what happened between birth and Beagle. Primary source history tends to omit the minutiae - that's what archaeologists are for.
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| Posted 19-09-2009 at 01:01
So here you are; trying to connect a "Jesus" to megaliths. Well; it`s a fundamental miss, when someone writes a book on Jesus without first answering the basic question - "What had Jesus in common with Christ - the Soul of the World!?" Right now, I`ve come back home after 2 weeks`studying of some sacred landscapes of Greece and began to lay my impressions into some order...
Down there, I`d begun with the Argive Heraion - the place from which Goddess Hera was ruling the Argolid. At that site, several major yin-paths converge. One is coming through the Monastery of Our Lady of the Rock - her newer form, at the slope of the Larissa fortress, which watches over the city of Argos. Another comes from the fortress of Tiryns, where imo not only Herakles but later-time young pursuers of his heroic fame had their training camp, in the Lower Castle. In the Upper Castle a simple rounded Hera`s altar persisted until our days.
But the third yin-path is most important - that one which goes through Lerna towards the Heraion. All in all; Hera seemed to end Her yearly life cycle as the Lernean Hydra. After the legendary feat of Herakles, only one slummering immortal head was left (see Apollodorus - "The Library...") Thus she ceased to devour living beings that time - at the end of a vegetation season!? To go further on with it, we should recall myths are describing the Cyclic Time reality. (Mircea Eliade) At the oncome of the Spring, Hera keeps coming back. One of Her favourite places is the Kanathos Spring (behind Tiryns), where stands a circular bassin, in which She regains the form of a splendid virgin each year.
Another small homeland of ancient Greece, which I`m studying with great satisfaction is the area belonging to the ancient town of Thebes (Thiva). This time, I tried to locate a legendary meeting place of its wannabe king Oedipus with the Sphinx. Nowadays, the environment is generally described as Fagas Oros - the Devourer`s Mts. At the foot of their highest top, I found a chapel of Zoodochos Pigi (the Source of Life), surrounded by a holy grove (alsos) and a rectangular dry wall. A bell hanging on an old tree nearby the chapel, was dedicated to the Black Mother; maybe a later form of Sphinx. But inside the chapel, among many old and new icons, there was one revealing specifically the idea of the Source of Life.
Against the breast of the Black Mother (Gaia), there was a chalice with four openings placed. Above and within that chalice a Christ Child was hovering, with his usual "mudra" gesture. From the openings, streams were flowing in four directions. And Christ as if was the sum of them all. Well; imo those survivals of the Religion of Nature are quite instructive even when analyzing the location rules of megalithic structures. They were probably based on similar views about the presence of Divinity in Nature.
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| Posted 21-09-2009 at 13:12
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On 2009-09-19 01:01, vlad wrote:
So here you are; trying to connect a "Jesus" to megaliths.
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Nope.
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| Posted 21-09-2009 at 15:42
It`s called "intellectual provocation", if it works.
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| Posted 21-09-2009 at 16:03
It's called "an excuse to print unverifiable twaddle to allow the spouting of pseudo-intelectual ramblings to pretend to have actual knowledge!"
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| Posted 22-09-2009 at 06:35
Now then. It`s quite a something. So we`ve arrived at a postulate that phenomena, which cannot be verbalized in a way understandable to person xxx - simply do not exist.
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| Posted 22-09-2009 at 06:44
"Now then. It`s quite a something. So we`ve arrived at a postulate that phenomena, which cannot be verbalized in a way understandable to person xxx - simply do not exist."
That is NOT what is being said, as you very well know.
We've heard these phenomena verbalised ad nauseam. What we haven't had if the tiniest bit of willingness to PROVE that the verbalising is anything other than self-indulgent twaddle without any substance whatsoever.
Why persist in deliberately misunderstanding what the basic complaint is?
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| Posted 24-09-2009 at 06:04
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On 2009-09-22 06:35, vlad wrote:
Now then. It`s quite a something. So we`ve arrived at a postulate that phenomena, which cannot be verbalized in a way understandable to person xxx - simply do not exist.
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that's easy for you to say
In other words its wrapping a lot of nothing in pretty packaging!
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| Posted 24-09-2009 at 08:24
Well; maybe try climbing the mountains or bungy-jumping first. In any case, it`s about hard trying, - before the "flow" comes. It`s just like playing guitar without knowing nothing about it. After a while, you`d discern one tune from another. When you`ve prepared the physical or technical side, the rest (the spirit of it) shall come on its cat-feet. Some painters and sculptors use to say -"My hands know better than me what to do". What they are doing themselves, when their hands are working!?
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| Posted 24-09-2009 at 08:45
Using the right side of their brain?
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| Posted 24-09-2009 at 09:30
Or maybe using both sides in perfect balance?
There are a lot of interesting studies being done with MRI imaging to see which parts of the brain are firing under which conditions both for physical, emotional and metaphysical effects.
The effects of meditation have been studied and this is typical of several reports I've read on 'Buddhist brains'.
http://www.phayul.com/news/article.aspx?id=4221&t=1
Edited to provide a more up to date link.
http://www.alternet.org/healthwellness/108204/meditation_may_protect_your_brain/?page=entire
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| Posted 24-09-2009 at 10:13
I have this book - drawing on the right side of the brain - and it is about how most people can't draw because their usual left-side thinking gets in the way of really seeing. They think they know what's there and their logical mind gets in the way. But if you switch to the right-side, you do it without thinking. This is a garbled version of what I remember 
I like to paint and when I really get into it - I find time passes without my noticing, I don't even think about what I'm doing - it's like meditation in that it's very therapeutic and banishes stress and thoughts of everyday life. And that is what Vlad's artists are on about, I expect. It's another mode of consciousness - nothing fantastical - just a switch to a different brain channel.
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| Posted 24-09-2009 at 12:12
Me too, a friend of mine has a term for those (always better than usual!) paintings that are effortless and seem to appear on the page within the blink of an eye yet you may have been working on it for quite a long time.
"It fell off the brush"
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