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cropredy
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|  Posted 03-03-2009 at 19:44
This place has trilithons, and one stone is estimated at fifty ton, no wonder the legend talk of giants?
I mean, how else could a fifty ton stone be moved?
Serpents as well?, maybe it's a malteaser?
http://www.odysseyadventures.ca/articles/malta_temples/maltemples_ggantija.htm
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| Posted 03-03-2009 at 19:52
http://www.odysseyadventures.ca/articles/malta_temples/maltemples_ggantija.htm
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| Posted 03-03-2009 at 20:30
Sem was looking for free standing trilithons , and possibly from much the same time period , but not sure if he specified that .
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| Posted 03-03-2009 at 21:13
Tiompan,
How does anyone KNOW if stonehenge was as is now?
What if, it too was covered and enclosed by organic based materials long long gone?
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| Posted 03-03-2009 at 21:24
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On 2009-03-03 21:13, cropredy wrote:
Tiompan,
How does anyone KNOW if stonehenge was as is now?
What if, it too was covered and enclosed by organic based materials long long gone?
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It obviously wasn't "as is now " , and maybe the , as yet , undiscovered freestanding trilithons had also been covered and enclosed etc .
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| Posted 03-03-2009 at 22:03
Kev
Ggijanta hasn't freestanding trilithons. Been there,seen it on a day off diving in Malta.
Back to my original question. Are there any freestanding trilithons anywhere but at Stonehenge? If the answer is NO, ask why?
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| Posted 03-03-2009 at 22:47
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On 2009-03-03 22:03, sem wrote:
Kev
Ggijanta hasn't freestanding trilithons. Been there,seen it on a day off diving in Malta.
Back to my original question. Are there any freestanding trilithons anywhere but at Stonehenge? If the answer is NO, ask why?
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Perhaps due to the local available materials employed at the time of construction.
In stonehenges case these may have been far more organic and have thus erroded completely leaving no trace, whilst other sites had more readily available non organic that has withstood the test of time better.
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| Posted 04-03-2009 at 16:34
Interesting idea Kev.
I can't remember reading anything about wooden "trilithons." They're normally described as post holes and then various theories attempt to explain how they supported roofs.
Worth thinking about. Maybe I'll take it "Down Below" as a stone v wood thought.
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| Posted 04-03-2009 at 17:28
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On 2009-03-04 16:34, sem wrote:
Interesting idea Kev.
I can't remember reading anything about wooden "trilithons." They're normally described as post holes and then various theories attempt to explain how they supported roofs.
Worth thinking about. Maybe I'll take it "Down Below" as a stone v wood thought.
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Timber circles are often seen as precursors to the trilithons , no way of knowing if thee posts had lintels though .
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| Posted 05-03-2009 at 01:16
sem,
Were you being rhetorical or do you think you know the answer? Why aren't there more stone circles with lintels and free-standing trilithons around the world? It's intriguing once you ask it.
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| Posted 05-03-2009 at 07:41
Maybe there were lots but they didn't have joints so they fell down or were easily demolished and robbed out.
Perhaps only in one place was there someone barmy and powerful and persuasive enough to get his mates to over-deliver in design terms.
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| Posted 05-03-2009 at 10:39
Perhaps trilithons were a peak of development that was simply abandoned. If you fuse the techniques of the West Kennet long barrow and Avebury you could easily end up with trilithons.
Not quite like the 1000 years of pyramid building the Egyptians had - apparently the final pyramid was "the Pharaoh Ahmose, who ruled from about 1550 to 1525 B.C. and built Egypt’s last pyramid" (the first was Djoser in about 2600 - 1000 years after West Kennet).
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| Posted 08-03-2009 at 13:16
isnt there one on tonga?
oops should have read the thread first..
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| Posted 10-03-2009 at 21:08
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On 2009-03-05 01:16, Aluta wrote:
sem,
Were you being rhetorical or do you think you know the answer? Why aren't there more stone circles with lintels and free-standing trilithons around the world? It's intriguing once you ask it.
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Would that I had any idea of the answer Aluta.
It was just a question that jumped out at me when thinking about different types of megalithic sites. I'm glad you find it intriguing as the intention was to make people think and maybe come up with a possible theory.
I think the answer lies somewhere between the archaeos and the weirdos. With a little luck, maybe the twain shall meet.
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| Posted 10-03-2009 at 22:32
It seems especially strange to me after several months of searching for and finding Stonehenge replicas. If modern people feel compelled to build Stonehenge over and over again in every size and configuration imaginable, why wasn't this form, now apparently so powerful to the human psyche, stumbled upon and used time and again all over the world? A series of stones with lintels forming a circle and/or tall free-standing trilithons would seem like easy enough ideas to come by.
Houses were similar around the world, but one would have to say that is because form follows function. Using that logic, one might speculate that Stonehenge performed either no function or a unique one, although, of course, that is merely speculation. The one thing it seems to do extremely well is impress. Make that two things, upon reflection--it is also an extraordinarily effective generator of theories. 
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| Posted 11-03-2009 at 06:23
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On 2009-03-10 22:32, Aluta wrote:
The one thing it seems to do extremely well is impress.
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Not everyone is impressed...I was chatting to an american lady at a concert last year and asked if she had visited Stonehenge...She had,but remarked..."It's rather small isn't it!"
I didn't ask what she was comparing it to.
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| Posted 11-03-2009 at 09:17
Albert, it reminds me of the old joke about the Welshman who emigrated to the USA.
Many years later he returns to Wales and visits his old friend Dai. With the intention to impress his farming friend, he goes into great detail about the range he now owns, ending with the fact that it takes him two weeks to ride the perimeter.
"Dew" says Dai "I once had a horse like that."
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| Posted 13-03-2009 at 23:10
sem, I was thinking about trilithons in relation to Japanese torii gates. While they are not the same, having a second, sub-lintel, they are similar. Some are even made of stone. And they are there to mark the transition between the sacred and the profane, for example in the approach to a shrine.
Here's a stone one, for example, that is quite large: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aliaaaaa/2287741769/
As close as I've found to free-standing trilithons as part of another culture.
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|  Posted 13-03-2009 at 23:43
Would you count a mini golf course........?
http://www.miniaturegolfer.com/Photos/Hemsby/SUC50210c.jpg
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| Posted 14-03-2009 at 00:46
Good one, BQM. I posted that on Clonehenge some time ago. It's funny how often Stonehenge gets connected with golf, mini or not. I guess they're both about landscape.
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