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sem

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| Posted 06-02-2009 at 18:07  
Recent talk of Canada's stonehenge got me thinking. I cannot recall seeing or reading about free-standing trilithons at any place but Stonehenge. Even Avebury doesn't boast such amazing structures. Does anyone know of others?
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Aluta

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| Posted 06-02-2009 at 19:24  
Ooh, good question! I'll be curious to learn the answer.
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AlbertResonox

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| Posted 06-02-2009 at 19:36  
Well spotted that poster...all others seem to be connected to other parts of buildings...the closest one I could find was this Sth Pacific one(though it still looks like the remnant of a building to me)
http://www.ancient-wisdom.co.uk/trilithons.htm#pacific%20isles
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Aluta

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| Posted 06-02-2009 at 20:47  
Right--I forgot about that one, although I just ran across it in a search in the past month.
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Aluta

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| Posted 06-02-2009 at 21:14  
Just thought of another--the Gate of the Sun at Tiwanaku. No, I guess that was all one stone. Looks like a trilothon, though!
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AngieLake

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| Posted 08-02-2009 at 02:52  
Hi Sem
Not a trilithon, but something that reminded me of one:
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=My_eGallery&file=index&do=showpic&pid=40118
Oddly enough, this one also has a 'spine' like Stone 16 at Stonehenge.
(Have just added comments to bring them up in 'recent comments' section.)
Thanks for that!
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cropredy

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| Posted 08-02-2009 at 18:47  
http://www.domenechmilan.com/enprtfmenorca.html
http://www.menorcaweb.com/pictures-menorca/alaior/places-culteral-interest/talayot-village-of-terralba-salord/
Kevin
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Chyknel2

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| Posted 08-02-2009 at 19:59  
I'm pretty sure I've read that the form of the Stonehenge trilithons (and probably the sarsen ring for that matter) are unique in the world.
But the two types of joints employed are so obviously a carpentry technique that it seems probable it once had timber precursors.
Maybe the landscape was once littered with smaller wooden temples of that type - and we should be grateful to the megalomaniac that thought it would be fun to make one in stone. Without him we'd never have known and it would be a real "forgotten technology". I wonder if those huge posts in the carpark had lintels?
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sem

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| Posted 08-02-2009 at 23:34  
Thanks Chy.
So if the trilithons are unique, why at SH?
I've just done a quick read of my books and can't find an easy timescale for the building of SH, so..
The circle with lintels must post date the trilithons, as manouevring the latter through the circle would be nigh on impossible. Does this mean that they were part of the same plan or was the circle erected to augment the trilithons in some way?
Does anyone know of another stone circle connected by lintels?
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AlbertResonox

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| Posted 10-02-2009 at 20:21  
I vaguely recall reading that the stones were in a great deal more disrepair until a member of the Kellog dynasty had them "rebuilt"....does anyone else recall this?
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cropredy

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| Posted 02-03-2009 at 15:09  
http://www.nzetc.org/tm/scholarly/ShiHawa-fig-ShiHawa117a.html
Tongan trilithon
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cropredy

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| Posted 02-03-2009 at 15:15  
The link in the above post shows a very old picture of the trilithon with people stood by it, that gives a better understanding of it's size.
http://www.pacific-travel-guides.com/tonga-islands/tours/trilithon.html
kevin
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tiompan

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| Posted 02-03-2009 at 15:51  
It's not prehistoric . Proabably somewhere between 11 th and 13 C .
George
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Aluta

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| Posted 02-03-2009 at 18:11  
Isn't that prehistoric in Tonga? When did history start being kept there?
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It's not prehistoric . Proabably somewhere between 11 th and 13 C .
George
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Aluta

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| Posted 02-03-2009 at 18:14  
Here's the faux trilithon in Bolivia--the Gate of the Sun. (Chose this page for the picture. I have not read and do not intend to endorse the text!)
Gate of the Sun, Tiahuanaco
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TheCaptain

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| Posted 02-03-2009 at 18:40  
A better picture of the Tonga trilithon, with people for scale can be seen here.
http://lolatonitonga.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/coronation-and-eva-pe-175.jpg
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cropredy

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| Posted 02-03-2009 at 18:41  
Tiompan,
I wouldn't be so fast on relying on local tales for dating.
All I can say is,
Maka Fa'akinanga stone, and the tombs, langis I believe?
Stepped pyramids with stone retaining walls,hmmmm.
Kevin
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tiompan

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| Posted 02-03-2009 at 18:43  
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On 2009-03-02 18:11, Aluta wrote:
Isn't that prehistoric in Tonga? When did history start being kept there?
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On 2009-03-02 15:51, tiompan wrote:
It's not prehistoric . Proabably somewhere between 11 th and 13 C .
George
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Yes your'e right Aluta , I should have said 3000 years + later .
George
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tiompan

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| Posted 02-03-2009 at 19:16  
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On 2009-03-02 18:41, cropredy wrote:
Tiompan,
I wouldn't be so fast on relying on local tales for dating.
All I can say is,
Maka Fa'akinanga stone, and the tombs, langis I believe?
Stepped pyramids with stone retaining walls,hmmmm.
Kevin
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Kevin ,
I know next to nothing about Tongan history /archaeology and didn't rely on local tales for dates . A quick search however suggests that Langis are no more than a thousand years , is there any reason to doubt this ?
George
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cropredy

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| Posted 02-03-2009 at 20:38  
Tiompan,
would I dare doubt the dates?
This link shows the trilithon better, and the links on the right show the langis and my favorite stone the maka fa'akinanga stone, which could be right at home in Avebury?
interesting about the grooves on the trilithon top marking solstices etc?
http://www.palaceoffice.gov.to/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=72&itemid=85
http://whc.unesco.org/en/tentativelists/5167/
kevin
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