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mountainman

Joined: 30-08-2008
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| Posted 03-02-2009 at 11:05  
Just came across another interesting idea. Many of us have wondered about the use of the term "bluestone" -- when it was first used, and WHY it was used since the bluestones are not really blue at all. If truth be told, the colouring of most of the smaller monoliths at Stonehenge is not that different from the colouring of the sarsens. Geoff Kellaway has suggested that the term "blau stone" (later distorted into bluestone) is a medieval word, from the Anglo-Saxon, meaning special, different, exotic or unusual. It doesn't mean "blue" but indicates maybe that the early observers of Stonehenge recognized the smaller stones as somehow different, and maybe therefore from some distant place........ Makes a lot of sense, I think. I'm still pretty convinced that the builders of the monument didn't have a clue where they had come from either, but found them to the west of the site where they were hard at work. Because they were "different" they may thus have been looked on as special or even sacred.
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tiompan

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| Posted 03-02-2009 at 11:26  
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On 2009-02-03 11:05, mountainman wrote:
Just came across another interesting idea. Many of us have wondered about the use of the term "bluestone" -- when it was first used, and WHY it was used since the bluestones are not really blue at all. If truth be told, the colouring of most of the smaller monoliths at Stonehenge is not that different from the colouring of the sarsens. Geoff Kellaway has suggested that the term "blau stone" (later distorted into bluestone) is a medieval word, from the Anglo-Saxon, meaning special, different, exotic or unusual. It doesn't mean "blue" but indicates maybe that the early observers of Stonehenge recognized the smaller stones as somehow different, and maybe therefore from some distant place........ Makes a lot of sense, I think. I'm still pretty convinced that the builders of the monument didn't have a clue where they had come from either, but found them to the west of the site where they were hard at work. Because they were "different" they may thus have been looked on as special or even sacred.
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Same thing applies to sarsens i.e saracen , foreign ,exotic .
George
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sem

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| Posted 03-02-2009 at 11:26  
Hi MM
You're just going to love me being argumentative again, but here goes. A few years ago I visited Carreg Coetan (Newport, Pems.). My wife noticed that a small section of the underside of the capstone had been chipped away. This meant there was no weathering or lichen on the section, plus the stone was wet. Her comment was "You can see why they were called Blue Stones."
Incidently, there is a legend that the stones of this dolmen were thrown from the summit of the nearby mountain Carningli.
Cheers
Sem
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Aluta

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| Posted 03-02-2009 at 11:41  
A friend gave me a worked piece of bluestone from Preseli, one of the sites some of the stones were taken from, and it looks quite blue to me, with some kind of small white inclusions. You can get an idea of it on this site where they sell items made from legally mined Preseli bluestone.
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mikecroley

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| Posted 03-02-2009 at 13:51  
The one I cut was green.
mike
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James

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| Posted 03-02-2009 at 17:58  
Greetings!
The Angles, Saxons, and Normans certainly added to the "Mystery" of Stonehenge and much of England by adding their names for this and that, removing this and that. To find the Root of Names is very, very helpful.
It is difficult, to say the least, to walk backwards in Time to un-cover what was a Sacred Landscape-------
Preserve, collect data. make Theory, dig dig dig, preserve!
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karloff

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| Posted 04-02-2009 at 12:55  
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The term bluestone when applied to Stonehenge covers a range of actual rock types but in general it refers to the Dolerite blocks.
When clean and wet these rocks are indeed blue and so its likely that's why they are called bluestones.
I do like the ideas generated by SH, and Kellaway's theory is interesting but sometimes the elephant in the room looms very large indeed!
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tubbsy

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| Posted 11-02-2009 at 04:42  
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On 2009-02-04 12:55, karloff wrote:
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The term bluestone when applied to Stonehenge covers a range of actual rock types but in general it refers to the Dolerite blocks.
When clean and wet these rocks are indeed blue and so its likely that's why they are called bluestones.
I do like the ideas generated by SH, and Kellaway's theory is interesting but sometimes the elephant in the room looms very large indeed!
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tubbsy

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| Posted 11-02-2009 at 05:59  
I am new to this site and I must admit I am not sure I am in the right place,however you there seems to be some argument as to how those stones got to where they are.I don"t know how they were transported but the people had a great deal of knowledge and time to move those megaliths.What I see is a lot of people put a lot into putting those sites where they are.So to me there had to have been a common theme and maybe a warning for those who came after.There are so many sites that use the sunrise at a certain date and that it must hit a spot down a tunnel or rise over a certain point.There must have been something terrible to have triggered this building frenzy.Maybe the earth was out of its orbit ,hence the spirals and just maybe the ancients were worried that if the sun did not rise on that spot on that day then maybe the earth was shifting again.
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