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AlbertResonox
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|  Posted 25-04-2009 at 07:18
I would be interested to see if any research has been done into displacement..ie when one area "floods" another "dries-out"...there have been many places which were once water bound(or even water accessible) and are now dry and vice versa.
This drying out has happened within written history..take for example Steyning in West Sussex....this once had a thriving port..but check it out on google-earth and see how land-locked it looks..yet we know that,further back in time,there was a landbridge connecting Britain to France and Germany.
If these things were happening with the seeming alacrity they once did...we would blame climate change and not the gods...and we erect (futile IMO)wind turbines instead of megaliths.
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h_fenton
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| Posted 25-04-2009 at 15:15
what was the climate like when these stones were moved? I know the thames isn't exactly the same as the severn estuary or the open sea but didn't they used to have frost fairs in london when the thames froze over? (although i wonder what happens when the tide is out)
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AlbertResonox
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| Posted 25-04-2009 at 16:36
I have always been led to believe that there were harsher winters and hotter summers...but I honestly don't know(because even your granny will say that it was like that in her day too...lol)....It seems that at one time the Seine and the Rhine and the Thames were all part of the one tributary....I've only heard this second hand..so can anyone verify this or otherwise?
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sem
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| Posted 25-04-2009 at 21:36
Hi Albert
I used to have a link to a map of the North Sea at the end of the last full ice-age. it was kindly provided by Thorgrim. I'll see if I can relocate it for you.
H Fenton
The ice-fairs were held on the Thames during the "Little Ice Age,"
late 1600s if I remember correctly.
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BERNARDQUATERMASS
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|  Posted 25-04-2009 at 22:03
A map similar to this........?
http://sogaer.exeter.ac.uk/archaeology/research/rdoggerland.shtml
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AlbertResonox
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| Posted 25-04-2009 at 23:03
Cheers for the verification BQ & sem...I do need these little reminders to prove I didn't dream it...lol
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| Posted 26-04-2009 at 21:23
Now I gather from Wiki's short entry that the Sweet Track was constructed around 3800BC, ON TOP of another track -- The Post Track. Also it was in use for some 10 years only (how do they know that) before being flooded in turn & thus owing its preservation through the ages.
So if the depth of water over the Somerset levels was enough when the bluestones appeared on Salisbury Plain, maybe rafts could reach somewhere near Glastonbury from where the stones could possibly be dragged again -- it looks much the same distance as for the later sarsens from Marlborough Downs.
Don't know the country there, so can't tell if this is feasible.
I have not entirely given up on human transport -- though it may be wishful thinking. 
Incidentally, have just read Anthony Johnson's "Solving Stonehenge", a must read if you're at all interested in the Neolithic planning, surveying, & construction of the sarsen stonework using one or two ropes only for the survey on the ground. An eyeopener.
He does not deal with the transport of the stones or the tools used to smooth, square & generally dress them, and make the tenon/mortise joints for the lintels and the tongue-and-groove joints between the lintels, with the accuracy that this was done.
[ This message was edited by: ryszard on 2009-04-26 21:27 ]
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sem
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| Posted 26-04-2009 at 23:39
I've just been reading a book on the history of Margam in Mid Glam and the problem of Irish raiders. This states that after the withdrawal of Rome from Britain the Irish founded a kingdom in Pembrokeshire.
As we are now talking about Arthur's time, it puts Geoffrey of Monmouth's claim that Arthur "flew" the stones from Ireland into a different perspective.
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| Posted 08-05-2009 at 18:11
Hi Albert.
I finally found the link to report on sunken areas. The link is:-
http://www.offshore-sea.org.uk/site/scripts/book_info.php?consultationID=6&bookID=7
All sections can be downloaded in pdf format.
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BERNARDQUATERMASS
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| Posted 09-05-2009 at 02:44
Is this the era when St. Patrick was taken to Ireland?
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