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|  Posted 07-12-2008 at 17:34
I'am first time here.
In "my" forest, ca.54,1000N..22,2000E ,there is about 800 cairns,3--12m of diameter,some alignments and stone circles~1600--1800 years old .http://www.archeo.uw.edu.pl/czerwonydwor/
I'm especially interesting in non- figural rock art
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tiompan
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| Posted 07-12-2008 at 18:25
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On 2008-12-07 17:34, Dowser wrote:
I'am first time here.
In "my" forest, ca.54,1000N..22,2000E ,there is about 800 cairns,3--12m of diameter,some alignments and stone circles~1600--1800 years old .http://www.archeo.uw.edu.pl/czerwonydwor/
I'm especially interesting in non- figural rock art
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Hello Dowser , Nearly all British rock art is abstract .You might like to have a look here . http://rockartuk.fotopic.net/
George
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| Posted 07-12-2008 at 19:38
Dowser,
Hello.
http://www.archeo.uw.edu.pl/czerwonydwor/
I am a dowser too, are You?
Do you detect anything at any of these sites?
Is there anyone left in Poland? many are here
kevin
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| Posted 08-12-2008 at 16:58
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Hello Dowser , Nearly all British rock art is abstract .You might like to have a look here . http://rockartuk.fotopic.net/
George
Hello,thanks for link.This page is really paradise for me!
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| Posted 08-12-2008 at 17:23
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On 2008-12-08 16:58, Dowser wrote:
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Hello Dowser , Nearly all British rock art is abstract .You might like to have a look here . http://rockartuk.fotopic.net/
George
Hello,thanks for link.This page is really paradise for me!
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Glad you liked it Dowser . I don't know of any rock art in Poland , there must be some and if not recorded then the possibility of new finds . Do you know of any ?
George
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| Posted 08-12-2008 at 17:32
I am a dowser too, are You?
Do you detect anything at any of these sites?
Is there anyone left in Poland? many are here
kevin
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Hello.
Hmmmmm..some left here..
Seriously, all ancient places I examined with dowse,are standing
on special points of this strange field of "energy".
Geometry of megalithic constructions follow geometry of this field,
and for this reason this megalithic constructions are so "strage" for us.
(sorry for my englih, ufff...but,belive me ,I very good speak polish...)
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| Posted 08-12-2008 at 19:20
Hullo dowser,
Are the special points only where a megalith stands? Are there other points near to each megalith ,where no megalith was placed?
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| Posted 08-12-2008 at 19:51
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On 2008-12-08 19:20, chimera wrote:
Hullo dowser,
Are the special points only where a megalith stands? Are there other points near to each megalith ,where no megalith was placed?
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Tere are many points (and lines) without megaliths.
But all megaliths I know are standing on "special"points.
Ant-hills too...
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| Posted 08-12-2008 at 19:52
Hi. Around our "chalet" (cf. Alpine names), there`s no snow for the time being. And here you`ve got someone, who is a dowser but hasn`t described his dowsing methods, as yet. English dowsing tradition is probably little different with respect to German and Polish ones.
Thus; chimera, with your question you maybe simplify the situation a bit. First of all, on the continent they assume there are regular basic nets like Hartmann`s and dr. Curry`s lines. Those nets have different pitch and their "threads" are running at different directions. This situation gives rise to irregular amplifications in such a composite field, where nods of different nets come together. Then they like to detect underground water veins, as there are post-glacial sands and clay up to ca 200 metres thick. A beginner in this noble craft of dowsing could safely assume that in a major crossing of all this lines, megaliths were located.
But there are many such places around, chimera, where people haven`t got any stone to put into one. Some could plant a tree. Accidentally, my lavatory out here is coinciding with one of those potential sacred places in the Earth aura.
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| Posted 08-12-2008 at 20:02
Glad you liked it Dowser . I don't know of any rock art in Poland , there must be some and if not recorded then the possibility of new finds . Do you know of any ?
George
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Not in my area. I found one stone with cup marks,but I'm not sure if it is human-made.it might be effect of some geological process....from other hand,this stone is standing in old "shamanic" place,there is many cairns around it.
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| Posted 08-12-2008 at 20:20
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On 2008-12-08 20:02, Dowser wrote:
Glad you liked it Dowser . I don't know of any rock art in Poland , there must be some and if not recorded then the possibility of new finds . Do you know of any ?
George
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Not in my area. I found one stone with cup marks,but I'm not sure if it is human-made.it might be effect of some geological process....from other hand,this stone is standing in old "shamanic" place,there is many cairns around it.
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Could you post a pic .?
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| Posted 08-12-2008 at 21:33
Tiompan
Thanks for putting up the rockart link, it's given me a few ideas to work on. There's none in my area (S.Wales), is it because we're boring or considered too backward?
Dowser
Sorry I can't help you in your reasearch, but Good Luck.
Sem
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| Posted 08-12-2008 at 22:00
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On 2008-12-08 21:33, sem wrote:
Tiompan
Thanks for putting up the rockart link, it's given me a few ideas to work on. There's none in my area (S.Wales), is it because we're boring or considered too backward?
Dowser
Sorry I can't help you in your reasearch, but Good Luck.
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Sem , There are a few marked rocks in Pembrokeshire ,even a ring on the capstone of Garn Turne . Rock art is pretty localised in Britain and we can only guess at why some araes don't have any . Often the simple answer is geology , not enough suitable rock for marking etc but that doesn't explain all the gaps . Destruction and lack of decent investigation hasn't helped but these are insufficent to explain the gaps fully . There will a lot more to be found that's for sure .
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| Posted 08-12-2008 at 23:21
"all megaliths are on special points"
"in a major crossing of all this lines, megaliths were located.
But there are many such places around, chimera, where people haven`t got any stone to put into one. Some could plant a tree. Accidentally, my lavatory out here is coinciding with one of those potential sacred places in the Earth aura. "
So Stonehenge circle and the "horseshoe" of 5 trilithons and 3 pairs of free stones are on special points? And your lavatory?
Can dowsers detect my thoughts about this?
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| Posted 08-12-2008 at 23:36
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On 2008-12-08 23:21, chimera wrote:
"all megaliths are on special points"
"in a major crossing of all this lines, megaliths were located.
But there are many such places around, chimera, where people haven`t got any stone to put into one. Some could plant a tree. Accidentally, my lavatory out here is coinciding with one of those potential sacred places in the Earth aura. "
So Stonehenge circle and the "horseshoe" of 5 trilithons and 3 pairs of free stones are on special points? And your lavatory?
Can dowsers detect my thoughts about this?
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Well.. Either he's doing it or you're talking it.
Scientifically, I would say having a damn good dump was both spiritually and physically satisfying to our megalithic anscestors.
Sem
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| Posted 09-12-2008 at 06:30
Every 6 feet or so around the globe? Is that why they say "Holy Ireland, Mother Russia etc."?
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| Posted 09-12-2008 at 06:35
Simply; the notion of a "point" do not represent invisible reality too well. It`s much better to call it a "FIELD". We`ve got the invisible magnetic field around the Earth and then it has maybe its higher (and lower!?) "harmonics", as well as local nodes (!?). As for a possible field of a "Stonehenge - type", IMO we should look around not only for circles, "wombs" and sightlines laid out in stones.
Within Northeuropean Lowlands (Germany, Poland and further east), stones were not easily available in large quantities. I wonder, if small HILLFORTS with a wooden palisade could have a similar function to Stonehenge. Also, they have entrances cut in walls at some meaningful directions. Worldly power comes from protection of major sacred places. This is the rule, which functioned through millenia. Those hillforts constructed from soil and oak trunks and branches (inside the wall) could have been laid out within a special "field", important for a human group. It`s easy to see there a mansion of a legendary ancestor, staying in eternal embrace with local Shakti.
It could be the guarantee for the prosperity of the clan. And the prosperity should be guarded at all costs. Later on, a hereditary leader took over the role of the legendary ancestor and his "intercourse" with local land-goddess proceeded. Precedents known from medieval legends ( e.g. Melusina of Plaincourault) could be regarded as built on a very ancient idea.
Those sand-and-wood structures could not be counted among megaliths but they could furnish us with additional informations as for the megalithic motivation. The BASIC CHARACTER of those "fields", which demanded actualization in the physical world through man-made structures and defence against intruders, - could have been the same.
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| Posted 09-12-2008 at 08:27
OK but it suggests that there are great numbers of circles, horseshoes, swastikas, spaghetti and fishing-lines. Which is a bit like the wind, it's there but it's everywhere. If the market is over-supplied, the price goes down.
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| Posted 09-12-2008 at 12:33
[ Could you post a pic .?
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I haven't pic. of this stone yet. I'll try to make it for some days...now ,we have three-days hunting in our forest,so I'll a little busy...
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| Posted 09-12-2008 at 14:18
Chimera,
Some of your conveluted , I suppose funny to You posts?, are hard for people who speak English to follow, is it not the height of ignorance to subject someone from another language to such?
If you must keep posting such CRAP, keep it to yourself, it is below your obvious standerds.
Kevin
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