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MattImpey



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 Posted 12-09-2008 at 14:16   
I was wondering if it was possible to be buried 'in this day and age' under a nice big barrow?

Instead of, in a boring old cemetary with a dull tombstone.

Archaeologists in 5000 years time would probably think I was REALLY important and they could theorize about the odd artifacts I was buried with...
"Ancient 20 century man probably used his 'iPod' to hunt and summon his pizza-hut"




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AlexHunger



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 Posted 12-09-2008 at 14:43   
The old Agha Khan had a temple of sorts built for himself in Aswan Egypt, so you could probably do a round barrow in Europe, if you spent enough cash and got the required planning permission.
Some American lady had herself cemented inside her vintage Ferrari, so the grave goods would also not be anything new.

I would have to be burried with my GPS, my blackberry and my corporate fuel card.




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chimera



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 Posted 12-09-2008 at 15:39   
Same problem as pharaohs, the tomb robbers will get ya.
Now this will confuse them and let you R.I.P.
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James



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 Posted 12-09-2008 at 17:54   
Greetings!

With the acceptance of "Green Burials" over here across the Pond, we have been into the process of setting up such a Cemetary-but, of course, running into those who don`t understand the concept of Honoring the Dead and the Earth at the same time-and they are the ones who wield the dreaded "Red Tape".

And, there is the Monument industry, who make a tidy sum by giving the least amount of Stone, for the greatest amount of Money-we would like rough Dolmens for Family plots, and Barrows for the Chiefs(rich Folk), with a Stone-Circle for the Public Cremations, and Seasonal Gatherings.

Into the Sidhe!

/!\





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 Posted 12-09-2008 at 21:59   
Herodotus wrote of the chiefs of horse-tribes who had a ring of loyal warriors to accompany his burial. The brave men were put to death and set on poles on dead horses around the chief's mound. It's popular with children at side-shows with a horse round-about. You could have music in the barrow with a re-chargeable battery outside.




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sem



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 Posted 13-09-2008 at 10:45   
Hi Matt
You could build one in you garden. There are regulations about where you can stick corpses but they are mainly concerned with polluting water courses.
There is a local wealthy man who interred his wife in his garden and erected a stone above the burial.





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 Posted 13-09-2008 at 12:54   
In a canyon behind the carved faces is a chamber, cut only 70 feet (21 m) into the rock, containing a vault with sixteen porcelain enamel panels. The panels include the text of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, biographies of the four presidents and Borglum, and the history of the U.S. The chamber was created as the entranceway to a planned "Hall of Records"; the vault was installed in 1998.






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 Posted 15-09-2008 at 12:59   
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On 2008-09-13 10:45, sem wrote:
Hi Matt
You could build one in you garden. There are regulations about where you can stick corpses but they are mainly concerned with polluting water courses.
There is a local wealthy man who interred his wife in his garden and erected a stone above the burial.




Thank you Sem
It's nice to know that it may actually be possible. But I'm not sure how the family I leave behind would feel about me being buried in the back garden, they'd never be able to sell the place "it comes with its own buriel mound garden feature... next to the shrubbery"




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 Posted 16-09-2008 at 07:52   
Call it a barrow, include a time capsule with old family objects, and then have it heritage listed for permanent protection.




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 Posted 17-09-2008 at 22:27   
I can't see any good reason why you shouldn't be buried in a barrow, you could argue that it is no different from a mausoleum.

If you are thinking of a large barrow or putting it in a prominent position in the landscape you might need planning permission.

if there is the intention to open the barrow at a later date push you bones aside and chuck the wife and kids into the chamber this might be a problem




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 Posted 17-09-2008 at 23:43   

Wasn't The Princess of Wales, (Lady Diana Spencer), buried on an artificial island in the middle of an artificial lake.

Does anyone know where that lake drains into?




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 Posted 18-09-2008 at 06:23   
[if there is the intention to open the barrow at a later date push you bones aside and chuck the wife and kids into the chamber this might be a problem]
you mean, they die of fright at seeing you walking into the house after death, with no bones?





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 Posted 18-09-2008 at 06:40   
To avoid attracting the attention of the authorities change your name to Flopsy.




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 Posted 19-09-2008 at 04:21   
{Where does Lake Diana Spencer drain into?}
From: diddly-squat ® 15/05/2003 9:16:27 AM

Subject: re: Geology, "underground rivers", and dowsi post id: 475292


Groundwater is the generalised term for the mass of water in the ground below the phreatic zone (the zone of soil and rock in which pores are completely filled with water), that occupies the total pore space in the host rock and that moves slowly downhill where permeability (the ability of a formation to transmit groundwater, or other fluids, through pores and cracks) allows.

Ground water can be found in aquifers. Put basically an aquifer is a saturated geological formation through which water can easily move; it must be both permeable and porous (porosity is a measure of a rock’s ability to ‘hold’ water, it is a ratio of the total pore space within a rock to its total volume) and are typically made up of rocks such as sandstones, conglomerates, and limestones. Fractured rock zones (eg, columnar basalts) are also both permeable and porous and as such also make good aquifers. Rocks such as granite and schist typically make poor aquifers as they have low porosity.

Aquifers are usually bound on either side by aquicludes. Aquicludes are impermeable stratum that acts as barriers to the flow of groundwater; they are generally materials such as clay.

A common misconception is that ‘underground rivers/lakes’ are large bodies of free flowing water; this is not the case. Ground water moves slowly through pore spaces in an aquifer’s rock or sediment.

Ground water has to squeeze through pore spaces of rock and sediment to move through an aquifer. Because it takes effort to force water through tiny pores, ground water loses energy as it flows, leading to a decrease in hydraulic head in the direction of flow. Larger pore spaces usually have higher permeability, produce less energy loss, and therefore allow water to move more rapidly. For this reason, ground water can move rapidly over large distances in aquifers whose pore spaces are large or where porosity arises from interconnected fractures. Ground water moves very rapidly in fractured rock aquifers.

Every aquifer is unique, although some are more generic than others. The boundaries of an aquifer are usually gradational into other aquifers, so that an aquifer can be part of an aquifer system. The top of an unconfined aquifer is the water table. A confined aquifer has at least one aquiclude at its top and, if it is stacked with others, an aquiclude at its base. See the figure below.
The figure below shows three different types of aquifers: confined, unconfined, and perched. Recharge zones are typically at higher altitudes but can occur wherever water enters an aquifer, such as from rain, snowmelt, river and reservoir leakage. Discharge zones can occur anywhere; in the diagram, discharge occurs not only in springs near the stream and in wetlands at low altitude, and also from wells and high-altitude springs.
The amount of water in storage in an aquifer is reflected in the elevation of its water table. If the rate of recharge is less than the natural discharge rate plus well production, the water table will decline and the aquifer's storage will decrease. A perched aquifer's water table is usually highly sensitive to the amount of seasonal recharge so a perched aquifer typically can go dry in summers or during drought years.

Flow through an aquifer can be described by Darcy’s Law. Darcy's Law is a generalised relationship for flow in porous media. It shows the volumetric flow rate is a function of the flow area, elevation, fluid pressure and a proportionality constant. It may be stated in several different forms depending on the flow conditions. Since its discovery, it has been found valid for any Newtonian fluid. Likewise, while it was established under saturated flow conditions, it may be adjusted to account for unsaturated and multiphase flow. The following outlines its common forms and assumes water is the working fluid unless otherwise stated.

For one-dimensional flow Darcy’s Law can be stated as:

Q = AK(Δh/L)

Where:
Q = volumetric flow rate (m3/s)
A = flow area perpendicular to L (m2)
K = hydraulic conductivity (m/s)
Δh = change in hydraulic head (m)
L = flow path length (m)
Reference:
http://imnh.isu.edu/digitalatlas/hydr/concepts/gwater/aquifer.htm
http://biosystems.okstate.edu/darcy/LaLoi/basics.htm






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