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TomLee
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|  Posted 12-09-2008 at 03:45
Recently, I have a issue related to skull[Head-shape] excavated at dolmens.
Please let me know if you have any of information such as head shape with long and wide.
Through the shape, is there some research where they were from? including morden European.
Is there any data regarding DNA research among mordern Eruopean and people buried under dolmens?
Any one has some idea about relations, please leace any of comments.
Thanks and best wishes,
Tom, Lee
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AlexHunger
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| Posted 12-09-2008 at 08:23
Hi Tom
Bone fragments have been found under Dolmen, but usually not entire skeletons. The acidic soil in Europe consumes most bodies relatively quickly, so finds are relatively rare. Some bones were pretty much ground up into splinters.
Also in the neolithic, we believe, most bodies were excarnated (left exposed) until the flesh was consumed, and then interned in a more compact form in the Dolmen, along with other family or tribe mebers. In the Bronze age Dolmen fell out of fashion and in the Iron age, cremation started.
In Europe there was a mix of long and round heads.
Africa has better preserved bodies due to arid climate and customs like mummification among the Egyptians.
In a mountain in Lower Saxony Germany a Bronze age cave with bodies was found and it turns out the people living in the nearby village were still DNA related to the people in the cave.
In other parts, the population movements which accured reguarly insured that there was no DNA continuity at all.
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Alex
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AngieLake
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|  Posted 12-09-2008 at 10:15
Tom
If you go to - Isbister: Tomb of the Eagles - site page on here (type those words exactly into the search box at top left of page, [but leave out dashes either side!], then press your 'enter' key), then when next page opens, click on the picture under the title, which opens the site page. Scroll down the site page, and you'll see a lovely photo of the skulls found in that tomb. It's not a dolmen, I know, but a good picture of skulls.
Best wishes
Angie
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chimera
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| Posted 12-09-2008 at 15:27
You probably know about this map:
PDF] World Haplogroups
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
The data in this map is supposed to represent the situation before the recent .... Schurr, Theodore G., Mitochondrial DNA and the Peopling of the New World, ...
http://www.scs.uiuc.edu/~mcdonald/WorldHaplogroupsMaps.pdf - Similar pages
Could you tell us where your dolmen is? Not at Taiyuan in China, is it?
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TomLee
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| Posted 14-09-2008 at 10:54
Thanks a lot for replies!
If there are some date of head-shape or DNA, it will be so valuable ones to close understand.
Maybe, you must be interested in it.
Here in Korea, there were a few of skulls in dolmens.
Some of skulls shape seems to be a longhead and a bulging head. Many of Korean professers believe that its shape smiliar to some of European's one.
If there are some data of these, we can approach to dolmens' relationship.
So I will wait the information and study its data more details.
Oh, dolmens in Korean, I uproaded where is the Far East, South Korea. You should find it my website: http://www.fcdolmens.com
Thanks your guys.
I still need more information.
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chimera
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| Posted 15-09-2008 at 08:22
Tom,
The man named "Amesbury Archer" found at Stonehenge is said to be from the Alps, central Europe. His skull is nearly complete.
Lost White Settlements - North America
The White origins of Peņon Woman III, the oldest skeleton yet discovered in the Americas, are obvious from the 'long' form of the skull, which contrasts ...
http://www.white-history.com/hwr6b.htm - 56k - Cached - Similar pages
It is interesting that "Yalu" river is from Manchurian "yalu" meaning "boundary", and Mongol deer stone carvings were used to mark land borders. "Yalu" was the sacred deer in Assyria, and "yali" is the Hindu sacred lion-deer in India. In Britain, it is "yale" lion-deer and carved at Windsor castle. Maybe the Great Wall of China did not keep all the barbarian Europeans out of the Middle Kingdom.
[ This message was edited by: chimera on 2008-09-15 08:52 ]
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TomLee
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| Posted 17-09-2008 at 13:55
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On 2008-09-15 08:22, chimera wrote:
Tom,
The man named "Amesbury Archer" found at Stonehenge is said to be from the Alps, central Europe. His skull is nearly complete.
Lost White Settlements - North America
The White origins of Peņon Woman III, the oldest skeleton yet discovered in the Americas, are obvious from the 'long' form of the skull, which contrasts ...
http://www.white-history.com/hwr6b.htm - 56k - Cached - Similar pages
It is interesting that "Yalu" river is from Manchurian "yalu" meaning "boundary", and Mongol deer stone carvings were used to mark land borders. "Yalu" was the sacred deer in Assyria, and "yali" is the Hindu sacred lion-deer in India. In Britain, it is "yale" lion-deer and carved at Windsor castle. Maybe the Great Wall of China did not keep all the barbarian Europeans out of the Middle Kingdom.
[ This message was edited by: chimera on 2008-09-15 08:52 ]
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Thank you for your information.
I will read it through taste.
Tom, Lee
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chimera
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| Posted 18-09-2008 at 06:16
Also, the Tocharians, who were Europeans of Sinkiang China, had the word "yalu" for deer. The Russian steppes were an open road
from China to Hungary.
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