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brigantia

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| Posted 18-04-2008 at 23:06  
Hi folks!
Just received a fascinating-looking book today by the Rev. Stephen Taylor (no, not Gyrus) called The Fylfot File - subtitled 'Studies in the Origin and Significance of the Fylfot-Cross and allied Symbolism within the British Isles.' Effectively a broad overview of the swastika symbol across our land (UK) from the Bronze Age to more modern times, telling of their numerous incidences from rock art to church art. I'll do a review of it and post it a few weeks from now.
The book looks a good 'n'. For those of you who don't wanna wait for the review, you can get copies of it in softback @ £12.95 post free, and the hardback @ £17.95 post free. Payment should be made out to: 'S G Taylor' & addressed to:
CU Publications,
15 Church Close,
Whittlesford,
Cambridge CB22 4NY.
Please note: the author of this work is an Anglican vicar with a doctorate in theology from Cambridge Uni in 2005.
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nickp

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| Posted 19-04-2008 at 05:40  
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On 2008-04-18 23:06, brigantia wrote:
Hi folks!
Just received a fascinating-looking book today by the Rev. Stephen Taylor (no, not Gyrus) called The Fylfot File - subtitled 'Studies in the Origin and Significance of the Fylfot-Cross and allied Symbolism within the British Isles.' Effectively a broad overview of the swastika symbol across our land (UK) from the Bronze Age to more modern times, telling of their numerous incidences from rock art to church art. I'll do a review of it and post it a few weeks from now.
The book looks a good 'n'. For those of you who don't wanna wait for the review, you can get copies of it in softback @ £12.95 post free, and the hardback @ £17.95 post free. Payment should be made out to: 'S G Taylor' & addressed to:
CU Publications,
15 Church Close,
Whittlesford,
Cambridge CB22 4NY.
Please note: the author of this work is an Anglican vicar with a doctorate in theology from Cambridge Uni in 2005.
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| hail, and well met!
i know it's been a while since i've been here, (problems. you know...) but it's good to be back, throwing my two pennerth in, so to speak!
you of all folk, brigantia, should know, (unless i'm wrong!!) that the swastika stone is the earliest known depiction of the (much misunderstood!!) aforementioned swastika!
not having read the book you speak of, i hope it mentions the stone, and it's antiquity!!
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brigantia

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| Posted 19-04-2008 at 09:14  
Hi Nick!
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On 2008-04-19 05:40, nickp wrote:
...you of all folk, brigantia, should know, (unless i'm wrong!!) that the swastika stone is the earliest known depiction of the (much misunderstood!!) aforementioned swastika! |
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In the UK we think, yeah... But go to eastern Europe and we have some from near the 20,000 BC mark (or thereabouts!).
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It certainly does. The book's more than 188 pages, large-format, and well-illustrated with examples throughout.
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Red

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| Posted 20-04-2008 at 19:17  
Mmmm...simply AMAZING what a vivid imagination can do isn't it!
Don't you think that the connection between the two is somewhat tenuous?
Try comparing:
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=7311
to:
http://www.schoolshistory.org.uk/nazigermanyimages.htm
Pul-eeze - someone get a grip!
Red.
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brigantia

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| Posted 20-04-2008 at 23:44  
Howdo Red!
Not quite sure what you're getting at. I assume you know the history and nature of this symbol, yeah...? (i.e., Hitler and his nutters was a blip in the symbols history)
Here's hoping - Paul
[ This message was edited by: brigantia on 2008-04-20 23:48 ]
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cropredy

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| Posted 21-04-2008 at 00:12  
If I may be allowed a small contribution to the question of the swastika , up here in the lofty realms?
Please consider an electrical field creating a point, radiating out from that points are straight lines all around 360 degrees, but dependant upon the input line into the point, I assure you that a cross occurs as the input line carries on, and at ninty degrees to that line another line occurs going east /west , if you consider the input line north/south.
Then a spiders web design occurs radiating out from the centre point.
If you were to draw that occurance out, in its simplified common way, it will be a swastika.
If you draw it out further, its a celtic cross, if you simplify it more, it's a cross, if you work out and follow it's geometry, it contains all known religious symbols.
On my childrens and grandchildrens lives, this occurs at points where the megaliths are sited.
kevin
scuttling back down.
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brigantia

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| Posted 21-04-2008 at 00:22  
Howdo Kev!
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On 2008-04-21 00:12, cropredy wrote:
...Please consider an electrical field creating a point, radiating out from that points are straight lines all around 360 degrees, but dependant upon the input line into the point, I assure you that a cross occurs as the input line carries on, and at ninty degrees to that line another line occurs going east /west , if you consider the input line north/south.
Then a spiders web design occurs radiating out from the centre point.
If you were to draw that occurance out, in its simplified common way, it will be a swastika. |
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It will indeed.
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Yep! The cross as a symbol emerged from the swastika. Tis the centre-point, the zero-point, out of which the four-arms, or the four-worlds emerged.
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